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Vinted seller getting stroppy

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MochaMad · 11/07/2024 21:30

5 Vinted parcels were left on my doorstep by Yodel today. I was out all day and by the time I got home the parcels were not there. I have a photo in the tracking for each item of the pile of parcels and it’s marked as ‘left in a safe place: front porch’… I have no porch. They have done this before and the parcels didn’t disappear, but I complained. I have contacted Yodel and they told me to claim via Vinted and they will refund me. Yodel apologised and said the driver was at fault.

The AIBU element of this is that one of the five sellers is getting stroppy with me because I marked her parcel as not arrived. She’s wanting me to report to the police and claim from Yodel and clearly cross with me because the item (£6 hand cream) is now ‘suspended’.

She seems to think Vinted won’t compensate because Yodel have a photo of a pile of parcels on my doorstep.

So far no response from Vinted.

OP posts:
EsmeSusanOgg · 16/07/2024 13:20

summeroccupation · 16/07/2024 13:13

Tbf, it was delivered to your address.

But that is not the legal definition of delivered under consumer contract regulations (formerly distance selling rules).

EsmeSusanOgg · 16/07/2024 13:20

MochaMad · 16/07/2024 12:51

So in conclusion….

Vinted just completed all 4 transactions - leaving me over £50 out of pocket.
Vinted think that ‘delivered’ includes outside a house in full view of the road.
Yodel have admitted fault and now I have to try claiming back from them.
3 of 4 sellers were lovely - very sympathetic (one even offered me a refund)
Yet to see if the stroppy one gives bad feedback.

I would chargeback from Vinted. Share the info from Yodel. Or accept the offered refund and chargeback the others.

Vinted are in the wrong here. The law is very clear that chucked outside your front door is not delivered (unless you have specifically asked them to do that).

summeroccupation · 16/07/2024 13:13

MochaMad · 16/07/2024 12:51

So in conclusion….

Vinted just completed all 4 transactions - leaving me over £50 out of pocket.
Vinted think that ‘delivered’ includes outside a house in full view of the road.
Yodel have admitted fault and now I have to try claiming back from them.
3 of 4 sellers were lovely - very sympathetic (one even offered me a refund)
Yet to see if the stroppy one gives bad feedback.

Tbf, it was delivered to your address.

OooohAhhhh · 16/07/2024 13:00

You need to download the yodel app, it lets you know when a parcel is on its way to you & you can amend the delivery details.

MochaMad · 16/07/2024 12:51

So in conclusion….

Vinted just completed all 4 transactions - leaving me over £50 out of pocket.
Vinted think that ‘delivered’ includes outside a house in full view of the road.
Yodel have admitted fault and now I have to try claiming back from them.
3 of 4 sellers were lovely - very sympathetic (one even offered me a refund)
Yet to see if the stroppy one gives bad feedback.

OP posts:
Whattodo1610 · 15/07/2024 19:55

xILikeJamx · 15/07/2024 13:55

I've never used Vinted so unsure of the process.

However, Yodel did not deliver - they left it lying on the ground outside. OP is in the right

No she’s not … yodel delivered - not to OP’s satisfaction, but proof of delivery is there. From the sellers pov, she has proof of delivery 🤷‍♀️ From buyers pov, parcels have been stolen - therefore contact police and yodel 🤷‍♀️

xILikeJamx · 15/07/2024 13:55

Whattodo1610 · 12/07/2024 15:52

But yodel did deliver. And with Vinted, it’s the buyer who pays for the postage label and protection. Seller gets a message saying ‘buyer bought you a postage label’. So, no, OP is not in the right.

I've never used Vinted so unsure of the process.

However, Yodel did not deliver - they left it lying on the ground outside. OP is in the right

OMGsamesame · 12/07/2024 16:01

Everyone saying "it's not a safe place" - OP knows this and has told the courier company this!

Whattodo1610 · 12/07/2024 15:52

xILikeJamx · 12/07/2024 13:42

You are in the right.

The seller presumably sent the items with Yodel and Yodel failed to deliver. You have no contract with Yodel - the seller does, so they need to claim from Yodel.

But yodel did deliver. And with Vinted, it’s the buyer who pays for the postage label and protection. Seller gets a message saying ‘buyer bought you a postage label’. So, no, OP is not in the right.

HollyKnight · 12/07/2024 15:11

You can have your parcels delivered to a collection point instead. In my case, Yodel delivers to the local Co-op and Evri delivers to a nearby post office. Sometimes they don't make it that far, but when that happens it's a clear case of "lost in transit" which makes getting refunds and compensation much easier.

Concretejungle1 · 12/07/2024 14:17

IroningThrone · 11/07/2024 21:33

Sorry but I think you're BU. A doorstep isn't a safe place for parcels to be left and you should have either arranged for it to be sent to a collection point or tried to be in.

£6 isn't a lot to you but it might be to the seller who is potentially out both her money and the item.

So op should NEVER leave the house even though it could have been nearly two weeks delivery? Hmm that’s logical. Sure my work would understand.
i had a yodel delivery Saturday. I was IN.
they delivered it too the WRONG house, wrong street! Shock

AndKobbieDancing · 12/07/2024 14:06

DezTheMoaner · 12/07/2024 13:42

I have had the issue with the locker when I got the wrong item - it wasn’t my fault, because I entered the code I was given. The fault was with the courier who left the wrong parcel In the wrong locker, and I imagine it’s the same in your case. You cannot open any locker except the one allocated to you.

I think lockers are great : I can pick up or drop off stuff whenever I like, but of course the system depends on the delivery person putting the right parcel in the right locker.
Which is why I always check that the parcel has my name and address on it before leaving the locker: I understand that they have cameras, so if it was not my parcel I presume I would be able to prove this....... and you do have to confirm that you have received your parcel via the touchscreen.
You don't say if the issue with your parcel was sorted out?

Yes it was - Vinted refunded me and the seller. Took a good few weeks though.

It was InPost which is digital/QR code so doesn’t have a name and address in the parcel.

MochaMad · 12/07/2024 13:44

AlwaysGinPlease · 12/07/2024 08:48

If you're rarely in and have no safe place then you should use a locker or drop off location. You're very unreasonable indeed.

I or my partner are in most of the time actually…

OP posts:
DezTheMoaner · 12/07/2024 13:42

I have had the issue with the locker when I got the wrong item - it wasn’t my fault, because I entered the code I was given. The fault was with the courier who left the wrong parcel In the wrong locker, and I imagine it’s the same in your case. You cannot open any locker except the one allocated to you.

I think lockers are great : I can pick up or drop off stuff whenever I like, but of course the system depends on the delivery person putting the right parcel in the right locker.
Which is why I always check that the parcel has my name and address on it before leaving the locker: I understand that they have cameras, so if it was not my parcel I presume I would be able to prove this....... and you do have to confirm that you have received your parcel via the touchscreen.
You don't say if the issue with your parcel was sorted out?

xILikeJamx · 12/07/2024 13:42

You are in the right.

The seller presumably sent the items with Yodel and Yodel failed to deliver. You have no contract with Yodel - the seller does, so they need to claim from Yodel.

MochaMad · 12/07/2024 13:40

I’m not out every day - I work from home most of the week. I’m out perhaps 1-2 part days a week. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a courier to at least try knocking on the door and then follow instructions NOT to leave it outside. Try a neighbour or come back. Yodel have told me this is what the drivers are supposed to do.

Anyway….

He did it yet again today. I was upstairs and saw the car arrive. By the time I’d run downstairs he’d gone and left another parcel outside, fuzzy photo of parcel. He did not even knock on the door.

Obviously in future I’ll not chose this option and have it sent to the shop instead.

But some sellers only have Yodel as an option (for those telling me not to use Yodel).

OP posts:
AndKobbieDancing · 12/07/2024 13:33

Heatherbell1978 · 12/07/2024 11:12

I'm with the seller. She sent your item, it arrived, but then it went missing. Not really her problem. I had something similar a while back. Sent an item and got confirmation it arrived in the locker. Buyer contacted me asking why I'd sent her a dress when she bought kids shorts. I asked her to send me a photo. It was a completely different parcel that she'd somehow collected. Wanted me to phone the courier - and say what exactly I asked her? You delivered my parcel, thanks, but the buyer collected the wrong one?

It is her problem because she sold using Vinted’s terms and conditions which stipulate that OP has to follow this process. The only thing OP could do would be to confirm receipt and forgo her own refund so the seller doesn’t have to wait. I get why the seller is frustrated but her quarrel is with Vinted and their processes, not with OP.

I have had the issue with the locker when I got the wrong item - it wasn’t my fault, because I entered the code I was given. The fault was with the courier who left the wrong parcel In the wrong locker, and I imagine it’s the same in your case. You cannot open any locker except the one allocated to you.

Jins · 12/07/2024 13:21

MistyGreenAndBlue · 11/07/2024 21:35

Tell her YOU cant claim from Yodel as YOU are not their client - she is.
Her job is to refund you and claim back from the courier that SHE hired.

That’s eBay not Vinted. On Vinted the buyer is the client

edit - I missed the post saying Vinted is the client. That’s more likely to be correct.

Hopebridge · 12/07/2024 13:17

I do delivery to post office or local shop/locker if I can't guarantee I'm home. It works out cheaper than home delivery with vinted.

User79853257976 · 12/07/2024 13:08

autienotnaughty · 12/07/2024 05:33

She doesn't know that. Someone took a photo of parcels on her door step. That proves nothing . The driver could have kept them.

We had yodel put a parcel in the recycling bin when the bin was out! By the time we got home it had gone. We got a replacement item. We have a back garden where it could have been left out of sight.

Yes but just selecting ‘it’s didn’t arrive’ isn’t the right way to go about it. She needed to send the seller a message and query it with Yodel.

MrHarleyQuin · 12/07/2024 11:33

MochaMad · 12/07/2024 10:45

Just to respond to some of the above comments…

I have NEVER given Yodel - or any other courier - permission to leave stuff outside my house. In fact a few months ago I phoned Yodel to say there is ‘no safe place’. They stopped leaving stuff outside for a few months and either re delivered or left with a neighbour. I suspect we may have a change of driver.

Prior to this incident I did not have the app. So I had NO IDEA when parcels would be arriving. I assumed Yodel would just do their job properly. Clearly that was an unrealistic expectation - silly me.

In future I will use the shop for deliveries instead - but reading other comments this can fail too if the shop loses things. So you can’t win.

Overnight the seller has sent me 8 more messages accusing me of reporting to Vinted that she didn’t send it. She won’t wait for Vinted to respond. I have repeatedly told her that the report says she sent it but Yodel left it on the doorstep, and you can clearly see it from the photo but for some reason she doesn’t accept this.

But why have parcels delivered to home at all if there is likely to be no-one in and there is nowhere to leave it?

It just seems to be asking for trouble when there are alternatives.

MrHarleyQuin · 12/07/2024 11:31

Heatherbell1978 · 12/07/2024 11:12

I'm with the seller. She sent your item, it arrived, but then it went missing. Not really her problem. I had something similar a while back. Sent an item and got confirmation it arrived in the locker. Buyer contacted me asking why I'd sent her a dress when she bought kids shorts. I asked her to send me a photo. It was a completely different parcel that she'd somehow collected. Wanted me to phone the courier - and say what exactly I asked her? You delivered my parcel, thanks, but the buyer collected the wrong one?

I've heard of that happening - again likely a courier issue not a buyer one.

Heatherbell1978 · 12/07/2024 11:12

I'm with the seller. She sent your item, it arrived, but then it went missing. Not really her problem. I had something similar a while back. Sent an item and got confirmation it arrived in the locker. Buyer contacted me asking why I'd sent her a dress when she bought kids shorts. I asked her to send me a photo. It was a completely different parcel that she'd somehow collected. Wanted me to phone the courier - and say what exactly I asked her? You delivered my parcel, thanks, but the buyer collected the wrong one?

Whattodo1610 · 12/07/2024 10:55

I feel for your seller - put yourself in her shoes - she has received confirmation that the item has been delivered to you, and she has a photo as proof too. What would you think in her shoes? Also, Vinted are terrible when anything goes wrong, they take ages to respond to messages, and often don’t refund. I had to open a case with their legal team to get my money back as a seller. My buyer said they didn’t collect the item, despite tracking and messages showing otherwise 😡 So my buyer kept the item, go refunded, and I had to fight with their legal team to get my money back - a process that should have happened automatically.

I my view, you should be logging it with the police, as someone has stolen your parcels 🤷‍♀️

MollyAndMuck · 12/07/2024 10:52

MistyGreenAndBlue · 12/07/2024 00:29

Ah ok. I dont use Vinted so I assumed it was like eBay or etsy.
Even so, the seller is wrong to say OP should claim from Yodel.
Clearly OP is doing the right thing here in letting Vinted sort it out.

Why would you answer a thread about vinted when you don't use it or know anything about it? Maybe just leave these threads to people who do?