First Labour f up

The confusion probably arises because the last 3 or 4 Prime Ministers have campaign on one manifesto and then mostly ignored that when they have been in office, flip flopping all over the place to appease different groups of their backbenchers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c978m6z3egno

Sorry I can’t discuss till you have given me the word count and how you like the references presented. When do you need it handed in by?

Starmer repeatedly said during the election campaign that scrapping the two child benefit cap is not a priority. And so it came to pass - with him also removing the whip from 7 of his own MPs, showing quite a ruthless streak. So it's hardly a fuck up, is it? Labour Leader true to his word doesn't make headlines though, does it?

He always said he'd prioritise the economy first and foremost. Only once we're in a better state financially will he look at the benefits system. Seems pretty sensible to me. Plus, removing the cap is tinkering at the edges. He'll be looking to effect longer term, and lasting, social reform.

Wanting higher taxes on mn is par for the course. Usually other people paying, the ask is endless

The solution to that is for businesses to pay workers a wage they can live on rather than paying the bosses more money than anyone could possibly need.

This is a sign of things to come.

The welfare state will balloon even further, higher taxes, higher public spending.

It’s not like nu Labour didn’t already create a huge dependent class and Tories didn’t make it worse. Now we need this labour government to fi be ish the job.

Less than half the population are net contributors and living off other people. Yeah, let’s just take more money off the ever shrinking number of eh contributors and give to those who keep having kids without ever considering how to pay for them.

How can increasing the number of prisons make people more likely to offend? Your comment makes absolutely no sense at all.

Oh and I haven’t heard any mention of Labour taking any action against second home ownership or short term holiday lets or against private equity firms to prevent them from buying up British housing. But never mind as long as we can build tons of housing all over the countryside I guess it doesn’t matter 🙄

Rachel Reeves made it clear there wasn’t the money to change this, so it probably won’t happen. MPs are always calling for things to be changed.🤷‍♀️

Tbf a lot of my friends from Ghana don't like Nigerians. My friends from South Nigeria, don't like white people. Christians are slaughtered daily, my friends who have obviously disabled children dare not visit home because they would be under threat. Like every continent it has its share of bigotry. But lucky you. The institute for healing memories is doing a lot of work and there's just been a conference held in Durban for the United reform/Presbyterian church, attended by global pastors (a good friend of mine is a Pastor). So perhaps open your own thinking in line with the work being done to open people's thinking and not make assumptions about one another.

Or actually give them a meal?

1.Good, about time, less than 5% of land is built on

2.You want to build some more prisons and spend £££ making criminals more likely to reoffend?

Oh don't be dim. Their biggest supporters are comfy mc socialists.

Hmm perhaps they had them pre 2017? Then each kid you had brought in about £400 a month extra

I think the 2 child benefit cap is horrible and sexist way to punish poorer families. A man can have 6 children with 3 women but if a woman has more than 2 and has the misfortune of of needing benefits she is punished. Also the "bedroom tax" punishes young families eg lose your Job and have 9 year boy and 8 year old girl in a 3 bed house, then government believes they should share so the family will be bedroom taxed if they have 3rd box room but a pensioner alone in 4 bedrooms will not

Its all a bit confusing, because just last year there was a government minister who was encouraging women to get less education to stay at home and make babies, but the same government was simultaneously making it financial hard for larger families.

Yes - I think it came into effect at some point during 2017.

Not forgetting it will cost two billion pounds, I’m sure there are better ways that money could be spent on easing child poverty, free school meals for all for a start. By increasing the rate for all families there are thousands that don’t need it. It has to be a targeted approach.

You are very naive.
You have to go back into history to when One Nation Tories had some sway in the party for "Conservative values" to be anything other than a cynical front for pure wealth and power increasing policies. That was, after all, the primary motivation for Conservatives supporting and campaigning for Brexit.

Yes, it was £1 for the first and £1.50 for subsequent children

You didn’t. Mine was two when child benefit for the first child started so it would have been in 1977.

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At one time you didn’t get child benefit for your first born

There is no limit on child benefit. Only on adding them for the child element of universal credit.
Child benefit is the same as always, higher rate for oldest child then the same lower rate for each subsequent child.

It is very similar to having MPs watching tractor porn in parliament or appointing to a government position someone you know is a sex pest.