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To not want my child to go to a friend's house when I haven't met the parents.

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orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 18:27

My son is 11 and is about to finish Y6 and start Y7 in September. The past month or so he seems to have grown up in lots of ways in a short space of time. He's come home saying he has a gf, a new girl at school, and spends a lot of time on the phone with her (he's only had a phone since he started cycling to school independently a year ago and never bothered with it. We had to remind him to charge it). Today he said he was going to cycle down to the nearby park to meet said gf and some other friends we know. He's never gone out independently to meet friends before, he's quite shy and timid but I was really happy he wanted to do this and let him go. About 20 minutes later he comes back home with this new gf in tow.
I said it was lovely to meet her but did her mum definitely know she was here and was it OK with her? I said I can't have children in my house with the parents not knowing, she said her mum does know as she texted her. I said sorry but I will need to check can I have your mums number, she willingly gave it to me and they went upstairs and I texted the mum. I don't know her name, whereabouts she lives or anything about her. I said "Hiya, it's XX, DS's mum. Just checking you are aware YY is at our house and that is OK with you? It's fine with us if it is with you, lovely to meet her" 20 mins later she texted back "yeh that's fine but back by 6 plz".
Is it just me that thinks it's a bit odd to let your kid go to other peoples houses without checking with the parents first and not knowing a damn thing about said parents? I could be a raging drug addict, passed out on my sofa with a needle in my arm with a couple of rabid dogs running around for all this woman knows.
I don't know if DS is expecting to go round to GF's house on the whim of an invite but I am not at all comfortable with it until I've met her parents.
Am I too uptight and is this just a normal part of growing up? It gives me the heebie jeebies.

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TangoWhiskyAlphaTango · 16/07/2024 09:49

Yikes OP you are going to be for a rough road when he starts senior school in September and makes a whole bunch of friends who you know nothing about. You really do need to start unclenching a little.

OhYeahOhYeah · 16/07/2024 09:40

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 18:32

well, that's terrifying 😄

No I agree with you. I wouldn’t allow my daughters to go to (effectively) a complete strangers house.

Like you, I would at least like to know where they live and that the parent is happy for my child to descend on them so I’d also call or text them.

Regalia · 16/07/2024 09:32

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 19:34

Yeah tbh I was slightly taken back by it. No hello, no thanks for having her, just have her back by 6. OK then.

You seem to be coming from an era of younger child ‘playdates’ that involve the parents arranging, possibly dropping and picking up, the hosting parent looking after the visiting child, supervising, possibly laying on activities and food etc — but in this case the girl has just shown up at your son’s invitation, is hanging out in his room, and you don’t have to do anything. Expecting to be thanked seems a bit much.

RachTheAlpaca · 16/07/2024 09:22

Over the summer this is something you're going to have to let go! If you do this when he goes up to secondary school you are going to get him laughed at!
You likely won't meet 99% of the new friends he will make. Try not to helicopter over him, it'll cause him to really struggle settling into high school life.
If you've done your job correctly (which it seems you have) with teaching him safety, knows how to use his phone to call for help, knows how to get himself out of situations or say no, then you need to let him grow up and do these things.

My mother was so so strict and so I learnt to be sneaky and do things behind her back, because of how strict she was I would lie and if anything ever would have happened to me, she would have no idea where I was or what I was doing and I actually ended up in riskier situations due to needing to be sneaky. Your son seems really sensible so trust him!

TeenLifeMum · 11/07/2024 20:41

I’d just say “do you want to stay for tea? Message your mum and check it’s okay” then the child messages their mum. I always want to know where they are and I trust they’ll call if they’re uncomfortable. I’ve told them they can use me as an excuse and say I’ve text to say they need to get home, if ever feeling unsafe.

whiteboardking · 11/07/2024 20:35

Her mum might have been at work or something too. She has set a boundary with her DD to hangout with makes but home by 6. It's summer.
@Comedycook no pareht I know would go knocking on anyone's doors at Yr7

whiteboardking · 11/07/2024 20:30

Perfectly normal for end of Yr6
The mum knows her DD has a phone and prob knew exactly where she was if she wanted to. Yr7 you'll prob know nothing.

Lovesgreen · 11/07/2024 20:25

Berlinlover · 11/07/2024 19:59

Completely OTT.

Not completely over the top at all to know where your child is, introduce yourself to parents and give them your number. I judge you more than her.

time2changeCharlieBrown · 11/07/2024 20:13

Sorry but I think you are bu
usu at this stage the kids are arranging their own social life and it’s a bit weird if parents get involved, I’ve never heard of that happening and think it sounds embarrassing

Onelifeonly · 11/07/2024 20:01

I think there is more of a transition than most PP have suggested. You don't go from knowing the parents and being involved in arrangements to complete independence over night. Yes mine might have wandered to the shops or stopped off at a friend's house on their way home but I do recall meeting parents in year 7 - e.g when they came to collect their child from ours I would have a chat or sometimes invite them in for coffee. By year 8 all arrangements were made by the children but even then I'd meet parents sometimes on pick ups/ drop offs. Gradually that stopped and any parent collecting just stayed in their car or waved from the window.

Older children aren't really a burden in your house either - they entertain themselves, make their own snacks etc. I've rarely vetoed having a friend come round. And because they are more mature, they communicate with you about what they are doing and where they are. Your son won't stay the little boy he has been OP!

Berlinlover · 11/07/2024 19:59

Comedycook · 11/07/2024 19:08

My DD is 13...I don't arrange her social life or organise playdates for her...but, I always know where she is. So for example, she wanted to go over to a new friends house. She arranged it...I took her there, knocked on the door, introduced myself to the parents, gave them my number, thanked them etc etc.

Completely OTT.

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 19:53

waterrat · 11/07/2024 19:48

I have a yr 7 child and I'm very much on the liberal end of parenting scale - but I think it's okay to check in with another parent when they are 10 or 11! Just a quick message - hope you know they are here.

tbh i'm very relaxed and tbh push my son outdoors a lot! but I do worry when he is at the house of secondary school friend if it's late etc and I don't know the parents.

these things can happen gradually

I genuinely, and I can see how I don't look much like it on this thread, consider myself to be pretty liberal and laid back in my parenting but this is the first time I've ever had a child come over unannounced with no parental contact and I wasn't sure how to take it and I'm worried about my son doing the same. That's why I wanted opinions to see if I was BU. I'm sure ill settle into the norms but right now it's all a bit scary.
I really thought I'd done all I could to prepare for secondary school years too!!

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waterrat · 11/07/2024 19:48

I have a yr 7 child and I'm very much on the liberal end of parenting scale - but I think it's okay to check in with another parent when they are 10 or 11! Just a quick message - hope you know they are here.

tbh i'm very relaxed and tbh push my son outdoors a lot! but I do worry when he is at the house of secondary school friend if it's late etc and I don't know the parents.

these things can happen gradually

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 19:46

Creepybookworm · 11/07/2024 19:45

When my DS1 was in year 8 he brought home a boy after school. Luckily I was home because an hour later I had a phone call from the school asking if the boy was there as his dad was frantic and trying to track him down. The child was in year 7 which made it worse. The dad arrived to collect him shortly afterwards and I was illogically embarrassed and felt like a kidnapper. They were friends for years though so turned out well.

Yes!! exactly the sort of thing I was afraid of!

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Creepybookworm · 11/07/2024 19:45

When my DS1 was in year 8 he brought home a boy after school. Luckily I was home because an hour later I had a phone call from the school asking if the boy was there as his dad was frantic and trying to track him down. The child was in year 7 which made it worse. The dad arrived to collect him shortly afterwards and I was illogically embarrassed and felt like a kidnapper. They were friends for years though so turned out well.

Gettingbyslowly · 11/07/2024 19:44

Comedycook · 11/07/2024 19:08

My DD is 13...I don't arrange her social life or organise playdates for her...but, I always know where she is. So for example, she wanted to go over to a new friends house. She arranged it...I took her there, knocked on the door, introduced myself to the parents, gave them my number, thanked them etc etc.

I'd have died if my Mum did that. I think that's very over the top for a 13 year old having Mummy knock the door with you.

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 19:43

ByLoudSeal · 11/07/2024 19:40

No you need to stop this inappropriate relationship with your son and this girl right now

😂😂😂excuse me??

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orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 19:42

Livinginaclock · 11/07/2024 19:41

Hang on, your shy, timid, 11yr old has a gf and is bringing her to meet you?
That really doesn't seem shy or timid to me.

I know. One minute he's a young 11yo and the next he's bringing home GFs and getting fitted for a secondary school blazer. You can see why I'm all of a flutter

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orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 19:41

Topseyt123 · 11/07/2024 19:39

I think you might find the transition to secondary school a bit of a shocker.

You won't be taking him into the playground there or collecting him every afternoon. Neither will other parents. You won't therefore meet either his friends or their parents except very occasionally at parents' evenings.

You'll need to relax a bit about this. He has a phone and can presumably use it. You make sure that you generally know where he is going to be, but you won't be able to insist on getting to know his friends or their parents. You'll have to trust him, and just step in when things go wrong.

That's fine though. He's cycled himself to and from school since the February of Y5 so over a year now that I haven't been to his school. I know his friends' mums though from earlier on in primary and from arranging playdates and drop offs/pick ups from each others houses.

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Livinginaclock · 11/07/2024 19:41

Hang on, your shy, timid, 11yr old has a gf and is bringing her to meet you?
That really doesn't seem shy or timid to me.

ByLoudSeal · 11/07/2024 19:40

No you need to stop this inappropriate relationship with your son and this girl right now

Topseyt123 · 11/07/2024 19:39

I think you might find the transition to secondary school a bit of a shocker.

You won't be taking him into the playground there or collecting him every afternoon. Neither will other parents. You won't therefore meet either his friends or their parents except very occasionally at parents' evenings.

You'll need to relax a bit about this. He has a phone and can presumably use it. You make sure that you generally know where he is going to be, but you won't be able to insist on getting to know his friends or their parents. You'll have to trust him, and just step in when things go wrong.

fieldsofbutterflies · 11/07/2024 19:38

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 19:04

I mean, I don't but I also don't want him in the houses of people I don't know and I also feel a bit cheeky letting my son go there when I don't know if they mind

It's something you'll need to get used to, though. You won't have anything to do with his social life for much longer, unless you're providing him with either food, money or taxi services Grin

Pretty soon he'll be walking himself to/from school, hanging out with all his friends and probably going to the park or round their houses with absolutely no input from you whatsoever.

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 19:37

Catza · 11/07/2024 19:34

Did you never go to your friend's house growing up? Because we were constantly in and out of each other's house while parents were at work since primary. My mum didn't really know any other parents as it was common for kids in primary to walk to school independently.

No, we played out in the street until it got dark but I never went inside unless it was arranged. No rules that I remember but it wasn't done. But playing out, yeh, from an early age with no parental supervision and it was amazing. I sometimes miss it 😂

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arethereanyleftatall · 11/07/2024 19:36

Oh my, I've just realised the girl told you she had already text her mum. In that case op, that wasn't very good of you, you might as well have said 'I don't believe you.' That's why the mum texted back like that.