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To not want my child to go to a friend's house when I haven't met the parents.

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orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 18:27

My son is 11 and is about to finish Y6 and start Y7 in September. The past month or so he seems to have grown up in lots of ways in a short space of time. He's come home saying he has a gf, a new girl at school, and spends a lot of time on the phone with her (he's only had a phone since he started cycling to school independently a year ago and never bothered with it. We had to remind him to charge it). Today he said he was going to cycle down to the nearby park to meet said gf and some other friends we know. He's never gone out independently to meet friends before, he's quite shy and timid but I was really happy he wanted to do this and let him go. About 20 minutes later he comes back home with this new gf in tow.
I said it was lovely to meet her but did her mum definitely know she was here and was it OK with her? I said I can't have children in my house with the parents not knowing, she said her mum does know as she texted her. I said sorry but I will need to check can I have your mums number, she willingly gave it to me and they went upstairs and I texted the mum. I don't know her name, whereabouts she lives or anything about her. I said "Hiya, it's XX, DS's mum. Just checking you are aware YY is at our house and that is OK with you? It's fine with us if it is with you, lovely to meet her" 20 mins later she texted back "yeh that's fine but back by 6 plz".
Is it just me that thinks it's a bit odd to let your kid go to other peoples houses without checking with the parents first and not knowing a damn thing about said parents? I could be a raging drug addict, passed out on my sofa with a needle in my arm with a couple of rabid dogs running around for all this woman knows.
I don't know if DS is expecting to go round to GF's house on the whim of an invite but I am not at all comfortable with it until I've met her parents.
Am I too uptight and is this just a normal part of growing up? It gives me the heebie jeebies.

OP posts:
Sillystrumpet · 17/07/2024 13:06

Benjilassi · 17/07/2024 13:02

I think what's puzzling me is that many, many woman do not feel comfortable leaving the house alone, even answering the door, doing lone exercise outside, using public transport etc.
Yet there are many parents in this thread who are quite happy for the young teenagers (and not even teenagers) to be dropping into the homes of people for whom they don't even have a contact number for, or just letting their kids roam about and 'coming home when they're hungry'.
Yes, I understand that just having a mobile number doesn't remove risk, but that isn't an argument for not getting those details in the first place.

I don’t feel scared to leave the house alone or use public transport etc as you list. And I suspect it’s a very small proportion of women who live like this, most of us get up, go to work, see family friends and don’t live in fear. Nor do we wish to teach our children to.

when mine was younger I checked if the parents were ok with it, with her, and I’d met most of the parents at school anyway, none of us phoned and asked the other if it was ok.

redskydarknight · 17/07/2024 13:04

FateReset · 17/07/2024 12:41

How do you know James's parents are ok with this? They might not want his friends traipsing in and out of their home without warning.

And what if James happens not to be in and he goes to another friends house forgetting to text you. How would you know where to find him if he failed to return home?
He could be meeting older teens and getting in with a bad crowd. Kids that age are very suseptible to peer pressure.
Or he and James might go somewhere and forget to take/charge their phones, what if James' parents have no idea where they went because James is allowed even more freedom?

What if your child tells you they are staying late at school to do homework and instead goes off to James' house that is actually a crack den to meet his parents who want to enlist him as a drug mule/child prostitute, but do a good job of appearing as respectable parents, without bringing his phone which is uncharged at home?

Which is as likely to happen as some of the things on this thread.

DelphiniumBlue · 17/07/2024 13:03

Ha! I remember when DS had been at secondary school for a matter of weeks and a new friend asked him for a sleepover for his birthday..I was ringing round everyone I knew who I thought might have come across this family , to check if they were ok ! I got a great reference via a friend of a cousin whose dc had been the same primary school as new friend. DS went, had a great time and they are still mates now in their 20s.
I understand how worrying it is, especially at 11, they still seem so young.

Benjilassi · 17/07/2024 13:02

I think what's puzzling me is that many, many woman do not feel comfortable leaving the house alone, even answering the door, doing lone exercise outside, using public transport etc.
Yet there are many parents in this thread who are quite happy for the young teenagers (and not even teenagers) to be dropping into the homes of people for whom they don't even have a contact number for, or just letting their kids roam about and 'coming home when they're hungry'.
Yes, I understand that just having a mobile number doesn't remove risk, but that isn't an argument for not getting those details in the first place.

MrsSunshine2b · 17/07/2024 12:55

FateReset · 17/07/2024 12:41

How do you know James's parents are ok with this? They might not want his friends traipsing in and out of their home without warning.

And what if James happens not to be in and he goes to another friends house forgetting to text you. How would you know where to find him if he failed to return home?
He could be meeting older teens and getting in with a bad crowd. Kids that age are very suseptible to peer pressure.
Or he and James might go somewhere and forget to take/charge their phones, what if James' parents have no idea where they went because James is allowed even more freedom?

If your child wants to get into a bad crowd no amount of helicoptering is going to stop them and in fact the more controlling you are the more they'll push back against it.

I'm sure Jamie's parents are perfectly capable of saying, "Sorry boys but we don't want anyone in the house today," but having said that, if you have children and you don't have plans, you should expect that they might have friends round so long as the friends are appraised of the house rules.

If your rules are that your child only goes out with a charged phone, then that should be your expectation. They might break that rule, but they also might break any other rules you have in place, that's an issue that you deal with when they get home. I don't see how knowing Jamie's parents stops your child from going off somewhere else with Jamie without a phone.

Sillystrumpet · 17/07/2024 12:45

FateReset · 17/07/2024 12:41

How do you know James's parents are ok with this? They might not want his friends traipsing in and out of their home without warning.

And what if James happens not to be in and he goes to another friends house forgetting to text you. How would you know where to find him if he failed to return home?
He could be meeting older teens and getting in with a bad crowd. Kids that age are very suseptible to peer pressure.
Or he and James might go somewhere and forget to take/charge their phones, what if James' parents have no idea where they went because James is allowed even more freedom?

If Jamie’s parents are not ok they can tell Jamie.

the rest is just anxiety laden controlling angst.

FateReset · 17/07/2024 12:41

Misthios · 17/07/2024 07:42

Exactly - it's not that you are "cool" with not knowing where your child is. It's just that you don't need to meet the parents and check them out first. So when my child says "I'm going to Jamie's", I know exactly where Jamie lives, and know exactly when DS has said he'll be home, but I don't refuse to let him go because I haven't met Jamie's mum and dad.

How do you know James's parents are ok with this? They might not want his friends traipsing in and out of their home without warning.

And what if James happens not to be in and he goes to another friends house forgetting to text you. How would you know where to find him if he failed to return home?
He could be meeting older teens and getting in with a bad crowd. Kids that age are very suseptible to peer pressure.
Or he and James might go somewhere and forget to take/charge their phones, what if James' parents have no idea where they went because James is allowed even more freedom?

Sillystrumpet · 17/07/2024 12:39

Abouttimeforanamechange · 17/07/2024 11:59

Even my oldest who is 17 I tell her I need to at least have a chat with the kids parents before I let her go there.

how can she be independent if she can't do something as commonplace as going to a friend's house without permission. And how insulting to the 'kid' who has invited her, who might be 18, to treat her like a small child who has to ask mummy before she can have a friend to tea.

Yes that is bad, I agree, the 17 year old is an adult, and this is very controlling, behaviour. If a parent behaved like this with me, called for a chat I’d be very concerned about the young person.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 17/07/2024 11:59

Even my oldest who is 17 I tell her I need to at least have a chat with the kids parents before I let her go there.

how can she be independent if she can't do something as commonplace as going to a friend's house without permission. And how insulting to the 'kid' who has invited her, who might be 18, to treat her like a small child who has to ask mummy before she can have a friend to tea.

BollockstoThis1 · 17/07/2024 11:50

BeckiBoBecki · 17/07/2024 09:27

It’s tough seeing your baby grow up but you’re going to be a huge source of embarrassment to him if you continue like this.

Y7 - finding new friends, happy to socialise - he sounds really well adjusted and you’ve done a good job. Now it’s time to Step back a bit or he will start to resent you.

Exactly this.

BeckiBoBecki · 17/07/2024 09:27

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 18:27

My son is 11 and is about to finish Y6 and start Y7 in September. The past month or so he seems to have grown up in lots of ways in a short space of time. He's come home saying he has a gf, a new girl at school, and spends a lot of time on the phone with her (he's only had a phone since he started cycling to school independently a year ago and never bothered with it. We had to remind him to charge it). Today he said he was going to cycle down to the nearby park to meet said gf and some other friends we know. He's never gone out independently to meet friends before, he's quite shy and timid but I was really happy he wanted to do this and let him go. About 20 minutes later he comes back home with this new gf in tow.
I said it was lovely to meet her but did her mum definitely know she was here and was it OK with her? I said I can't have children in my house with the parents not knowing, she said her mum does know as she texted her. I said sorry but I will need to check can I have your mums number, she willingly gave it to me and they went upstairs and I texted the mum. I don't know her name, whereabouts she lives or anything about her. I said "Hiya, it's XX, DS's mum. Just checking you are aware YY is at our house and that is OK with you? It's fine with us if it is with you, lovely to meet her" 20 mins later she texted back "yeh that's fine but back by 6 plz".
Is it just me that thinks it's a bit odd to let your kid go to other peoples houses without checking with the parents first and not knowing a damn thing about said parents? I could be a raging drug addict, passed out on my sofa with a needle in my arm with a couple of rabid dogs running around for all this woman knows.
I don't know if DS is expecting to go round to GF's house on the whim of an invite but I am not at all comfortable with it until I've met her parents.
Am I too uptight and is this just a normal part of growing up? It gives me the heebie jeebies.

It’s tough seeing your baby grow up but you’re going to be a huge source of embarrassment to him if you continue like this.

Y7 - finding new friends, happy to socialise - he sounds really well adjusted and you’ve done a good job. Now it’s time to Step back a bit or he will start to resent you.

DragonGypsyDoris · 17/07/2024 09:18

You sound quite uptight. You can't control your child forever, and (as he is demonstrating) this is about the right time to start letting go.

redskydarknight · 17/07/2024 09:14

wrcm · 17/07/2024 08:37

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 hilarious. My children are very independent thank you 😏 I just feel it's good manners to speak to the people who's house it is to make sure they are ok with my child being there and also to make sure they are not raging alcoholics or doped up on cocaine you know 🙄

And you'd be able to tell they weren't raging alcoholics or likely to be doped up on cocaine by talking to them in advance?
Most parents are quite capable of telling your child it's not convenient if they are not happy with them being there. Most 17 year olds are quite capable of knowing whether their parents are happy for them to bring friends home without warning and/or to check in advance.

My 18 year old is currently in Spain with 2 friends, one of whom is 17. I assume you would find this deeply dodgy (no parents at all!)

wrcm · 17/07/2024 08:37

Misthios · 17/07/2024 08:30

Even my oldest who is 17 I tell her I need to at least have a chat with the kids parents before I let her go there.

17???? Jeezo. 🚁

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 hilarious. My children are very independent thank you 😏 I just feel it's good manners to speak to the people who's house it is to make sure they are ok with my child being there and also to make sure they are not raging alcoholics or doped up on cocaine you know 🙄

Misthios · 17/07/2024 08:30

Even my oldest who is 17 I tell her I need to at least have a chat with the kids parents before I let her go there.

17???? Jeezo. 🚁

wrcm · 17/07/2024 08:28

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 11/07/2024 18:27

My son is 11 and is about to finish Y6 and start Y7 in September. The past month or so he seems to have grown up in lots of ways in a short space of time. He's come home saying he has a gf, a new girl at school, and spends a lot of time on the phone with her (he's only had a phone since he started cycling to school independently a year ago and never bothered with it. We had to remind him to charge it). Today he said he was going to cycle down to the nearby park to meet said gf and some other friends we know. He's never gone out independently to meet friends before, he's quite shy and timid but I was really happy he wanted to do this and let him go. About 20 minutes later he comes back home with this new gf in tow.
I said it was lovely to meet her but did her mum definitely know she was here and was it OK with her? I said I can't have children in my house with the parents not knowing, she said her mum does know as she texted her. I said sorry but I will need to check can I have your mums number, she willingly gave it to me and they went upstairs and I texted the mum. I don't know her name, whereabouts she lives or anything about her. I said "Hiya, it's XX, DS's mum. Just checking you are aware YY is at our house and that is OK with you? It's fine with us if it is with you, lovely to meet her" 20 mins later she texted back "yeh that's fine but back by 6 plz".
Is it just me that thinks it's a bit odd to let your kid go to other peoples houses without checking with the parents first and not knowing a damn thing about said parents? I could be a raging drug addict, passed out on my sofa with a needle in my arm with a couple of rabid dogs running around for all this woman knows.
I don't know if DS is expecting to go round to GF's house on the whim of an invite but I am not at all comfortable with it until I've met her parents.
Am I too uptight and is this just a normal part of growing up? It gives me the heebie jeebies.

I can't believe the amount of parents on here quite happy with their children being around families they don't know 😳 I am absolutely with you on this one. I have to meet the parents. Even my oldest who is 17 I tell her I need to at least have a chat with the kids parents before I let her go there. Sorry but you are absolutely NOT being unreasonable!!

Comedycook · 17/07/2024 07:44

Birdingbear · 16/07/2024 22:27

I went into load of my friends houses from the age of 6 without ever telling my mum. We all went out to play all day and came home when hungrey. My friends also came to mine....we would be in and out like a yoyo.
This helicopter parenting needs to stop.

It's not the 1970s anymore. I'm pretty sure if a six year old did this today and their school found out, it would be raised as a safeguarding concern.

Summerlovin24 · 17/07/2024 07:43

Daughter moved school due to us moving house. Had a birthday party. Swim and sleepover. One parent dropped their child at pool. Never met me before. Didn't even say hello and picked child up next day without even coming to the door. Kids were 9. Unreal.
Didferent when they are 13 /14 but you were right to text when they are year 6 as they are onky 10/11

Misthios · 17/07/2024 07:42

Exactly - it's not that you are "cool" with not knowing where your child is. It's just that you don't need to meet the parents and check them out first. So when my child says "I'm going to Jamie's", I know exactly where Jamie lives, and know exactly when DS has said he'll be home, but I don't refuse to let him go because I haven't met Jamie's mum and dad.

rewilded · 17/07/2024 07:39

Justrelax · 16/07/2024 20:18

I have older kids than you and they absolutely aren't allowed to hang out aimlessly at the park (or in the street). But they can go to friend's houses even if I don't know the parents as long as it's pre-arranged.

Why can't they go to the park? Now that is odd. How is it better to be indoors?

redskydarknight · 17/07/2024 07:33

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 16/07/2024 22:48

A lot of ‘cool mums’ on this thread.

Nothing at all wrong with expecting to know where your child is and whose house they are at.

I’ve met people who have this ‘chilled out’ attitude of not knowing exactly where their kid is. I have come away every single time thinking they just can’t be bothered to be a parent anymore and are using secondary school as an excuse.

And also there’s a huge difference between an 11yr old and a 15yr old.

Nobody is saying they don't want to know where their child is.
We are saying that, as parents, if our secondary school age child wants to go to a friend's house on an ad-hoc basis we don't need to speak to other parents, evaluate their values, expect to check in advance it's ok for our child to come round, meet other parents for coffee. None of these things will guarantee that our child is any safer. It's perfectly fine for our DC to message "going round to Robert's house after school; be home about 5".

Benjilassi · 16/07/2024 23:33

Birdingbear · 16/07/2024 22:27

I went into load of my friends houses from the age of 6 without ever telling my mum. We all went out to play all day and came home when hungrey. My friends also came to mine....we would be in and out like a yoyo.
This helicopter parenting needs to stop.

I'm quite happy to be a helicopter parent if that's how you regard parents who don't know where their 6 year olds are.

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 16/07/2024 22:48

A lot of ‘cool mums’ on this thread.

Nothing at all wrong with expecting to know where your child is and whose house they are at.

I’ve met people who have this ‘chilled out’ attitude of not knowing exactly where their kid is. I have come away every single time thinking they just can’t be bothered to be a parent anymore and are using secondary school as an excuse.

And also there’s a huge difference between an 11yr old and a 15yr old.

Birdingbear · 16/07/2024 22:27

I went into load of my friends houses from the age of 6 without ever telling my mum. We all went out to play all day and came home when hungrey. My friends also came to mine....we would be in and out like a yoyo.
This helicopter parenting needs to stop.

wellington77 · 16/07/2024 22:09

I’m with the OP on this one, I would want to meet the boyfriend’s parents first - atleast at the door before she goes in, but also to check that’s where my daughter is actually going. An 11 year old girl going round her bfs house for the first time - there needs to be ground rules - aka the bedroom door is not to be shut. Surely this is normal? Find it weird the mum or the girl is not the least concerned/ interested. OP do you know if you were given the correct number?! Could they have given a mates number and they pretended to be the mum and text you? I’d ring possibly