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To have taken my sisters cat to the vet and hope she will pay

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InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 16:58

My sister has a 19 year old cat.
Cat has lived at our mums house for a couple of years because my sister has a younger cat and a child and felt the older cat would be happier at my mums house.

Cat has come to stay at my house as my mum has gone on holiday.
Cat is clearly not well - skin and bones, ravenous and thirsty but not putting on weight. I weighed her and she is just over 2kgs. Breathing heavily at times and unsteady on her feet.

I messaged my mum to say I think cat needs to go to vet, I’ve had no response for 3 days. she’s in the U.K., not abroad.

Phoned my sister who agreed I could take her to the vet.
Vet wanted to do blood panel due to suspected hyperthyroidism so I got the ok from sister by text (she is owner so needs to agree). Sisters response to the possible diagnosis was - ‘that sounds expensive’.

Results came back and cat has severe hyperthyroidism. Too weak for surgery so treatment is special diet and pills. I explained this to sister by text and response is “ok”.

I am on the way to pick up pills now. Sister hasn’t asked me how much any of this costs (£300 so far) so is possibly expecting me to pay for it? Not sure how to approach this?

My mothers response when I’ve previously suggested cat is ill and should go to the vets is “she’s just old”.

sisters response when I said cat may also have renal failure, just to warn her that outlook may not be good was “she’s super old I wouldn’t be surprised if she needs to be put down”.

its like they both just think oh she’s old, just let her die.

But she is really suffering with the hyperthyroidism as she eats and eats but doesn’t get nutrition. With treatment she could have quality of life so to me it’s a no brainer to give her that.

I have two cats and I love them ti pieces, can’t imagine letting them come to this. I also have pet insurance for them, she doesn’t. I’m picking up the cost possibly. Should I have stayed out of this? It felt negligent to not take her to the vets whilst under my care and clearly ill.

feel really put off my mum and sister as they seem so heartless. Or am I being a martyr?

not sure how to convince my mum to buy / give cat the special food and pills once the lot I’ve got runs out.

vet needs to do more bloods in 2 weeks to check treatment is working so it may be easier to keep cat with me till then. Treatment will be for life.

I’m considering keeping cat but my partner is not keen because there is an impact on our existing two cats. They’re scared of older cat and have retreated upstairs and have been vomiting so I think they are stressed by her.

AIBU = I should have stayed out of this. Now I’ve got involved I need to suck it up in terms of vet bills and ongoing care.

IANBU = I was right to take cat to vets and sister is the owner and responsible for care, including paying me back.

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sleekcat · 11/07/2024 17:43

I would not have this cat put to sleep without trying the special diet and medication first. She's losing weight because her thyroid hormone isn't regulated, which is what the tablets aim to correct. She could have a much better quality of life, even if it's not for a long time.

I once had a cat put to sleep even though I had decided not to. But it quickly became obvious that it was the only kind thing to do. If this cat is not at that stage then I wouldn't do it yet. It might be 19 but some cats live several years longer.

WiseMenSayNothing · 11/07/2024 17:42

I adore my cat and dog but I am also of the opinion that just be a they can treat, it doesn’t always mean they should.
I also feel this about humans too btw. lives are often made miserable, dragging on far too long and in pain and distress in some cases, for both pets and humans. Put the poor thing out of its misery.

Ginnnny · 11/07/2024 17:42

You've done the right thing! I know circumstances are different for people, but I can't imagine not having insurance for my pets. If your sister is worried about the current costs and ongoing costs involved, and given the age of her cat, maybe it would be more humane to have the cat PTS?

Yalta · 11/07/2024 17:42

Underlig · 11/07/2024 17:41

It’s reasonable for you to have taken the cat to the vets to see what’s wrong with it. But now the cat should be pts.

Why when there is treatment?

QueenCamilla · 11/07/2024 17:42

The heavy breathing - I would arrange PTS at the first opportunity. An unmanaged death can be an ugly and messy thing.

My DM regrets not putting her elderly cat to sleep. It's a much nicer way to say goodbye.

Krumblina · 11/07/2024 17:41

Hyperthyroidism is very treatable with medication. If that's the reason cat is unwell then it'll feel better with meds.
Not sure why everyone is saying PTS when it's a treatable condition.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:41

Malahide · 11/07/2024 17:39

If she’s wandering and peeing in places she shouldn’t then it’s likely that she’s going senile. It happened to one of ours and was genuinely heartbreaking how quickly he went downhill. He was incredibly confused in the end and couldn’t even find his way around the house. I would honestly suggest that you let her go sooner rather than later and avoid any suffering.

She’s not doing that, she uses her litter tray. Goes out for a bit of sun when the suns out. She’s not senile.

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Underlig · 11/07/2024 17:41

It’s reasonable for you to have taken the cat to the vets to see what’s wrong with it. But now the cat should be pts.

JustKeepSw1mming · 11/07/2024 17:41

Op, you have been kind!
Hyperthyroidism is a disease that responds well to treatment, and so the cat does not need to be euthanased. Many cats take the medication with no fuss. Hopefully this old girl will start to improve, and be much happier in her old age!
I would recommend that the cat stays in its home though. Moving home can be quite stressful for both your cats, and you mums cat. Hopefully your mum/sister will keep giving the medication. Once the cat is stable on a dose then you may be able to ask for a written prescription to source the meds online, which will probably be cheaper.
If you did want the cat to be euthanasia, then you just need to ask for this.
I hope this helps!

Yalta · 11/07/2024 17:40

Just to be aware that my cat was diagnosed with failing kidneys (renal failiure) I took him in every 3 days to have treatment (injection) to help his kidneys and he was in a special diet
Then blood tests then took him in every 5 days. It took a couple of years to get to once every 6 months and then he was given the all clear

He lived till 22years old

ttcat37 · 11/07/2024 17:40

I disagree with those suggesting you should PTS. If this is treatable then it would be heartless to just have her put down. I would try the treatment for a couple of months and if it doesn’t help at all then maybe then it is time to consider PTS.
I don’t think it’s the vets that are being cruel but your sister and mum who clearly have neglected this poor cat who needed to see a vet ages ago.
People seem to forget that vets are there to make animals better! They don’t PTS animals purely because they’re poorly and old. They don’t train for years to exploit owners of poorly animals and extend the lives of animals that don’t have a hope.
I would listen to the vet over a bunch of mumsnetters! And I would do my damndest if I were you to give that poor cat a happy retirement if your other cats can learn to live with her.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:40

Malahide · 11/07/2024 17:36

The words of someone who has never tried getting pills into a cat.

I agree with my two cats it’s would be really hard. But I think it’s possible with this cat as she is known for eating literally anything.

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ConsuelaHammock · 11/07/2024 17:40

I would have asked the vet to put the cat to sleep. She doesn’t sound well at all and I wouldn’t be trying to keep an animal with such a poor prognosis alive. Just because you could treat her doesn’t mean you should!

Malahide · 11/07/2024 17:39

Shylo · 11/07/2024 17:37

I have an 18 year old cat that weighs about 2kg and isn’t responding to hyperthyroidism meds ….. she’s thin for sure but doesn’t appear to be in distress or pain and so she’s currently still wandering around the house peeing in places she shouldn’t . Our vet would put her down if we asked but isn’t suggesting that we do if you see what I mean

I’ve been struggling with the idea of knowing when I need to let her go - her sister was pts last year and it was obvious but with this cat I just don’t know. It’s interesting that the consensus is that it’s kinder to usher her along. Maybe I need to think again

If she’s wandering and peeing in places she shouldn’t then it’s likely that she’s going senile. It happened to one of ours and was genuinely heartbreaking how quickly he went downhill. He was incredibly confused in the end and couldn’t even find his way around the house. I would honestly suggest that you let her go sooner rather than later and avoid any suffering.

user1984778379202 · 11/07/2024 17:39

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:19

The vet has not suggested putting her to sleep.

The vet's eyeing up a nice juicy bill, that's why. The kindest thing to do with a 19-year-old cat this poorly is to PTS.

TonTonMacoute · 11/07/2024 17:39

Malahide · 11/07/2024 17:01

Sounds like the cat needs put down, not special food and recurrent blood tests. Poor thing. The vet is taking advantage of you and prolonging the inevitable.

This

GetThatBloodyFaceOff · 11/07/2024 17:38

My cat didn't have pills - she had a cream stuff rubbed into her outer ear, and a liquid stuff squirted into her mouth (she didn't mind it) or onto her food.

Shylo · 11/07/2024 17:37

I have an 18 year old cat that weighs about 2kg and isn’t responding to hyperthyroidism meds ….. she’s thin for sure but doesn’t appear to be in distress or pain and so she’s currently still wandering around the house peeing in places she shouldn’t . Our vet would put her down if we asked but isn’t suggesting that we do if you see what I mean

I’ve been struggling with the idea of knowing when I need to let her go - her sister was pts last year and it was obvious but with this cat I just don’t know. It’s interesting that the consensus is that it’s kinder to usher her along. Maybe I need to think again

Malahide · 11/07/2024 17:36

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:36

I don’t think pills will be an issue for her to be honest. She’s not fussy at all. Wolfs anything down.

The words of someone who has never tried getting pills into a cat.

GetThatBloodyFaceOff · 11/07/2024 17:36

It doesn't sound as though the cat will have much longer left, poor thing. Your sister and mother have neglected the cat, and seem heartless. They should have to pay the vet bill.

I had cats for over 40 years, would never have let any of mine ever get to that stage - one did have an underactive thyroid and kidney failure at the age of about 16, and had medication for both conditions, was well-fed, much-loved, and lived to be 19.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:36

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 11/07/2024 17:32

And yes, daily pills and treatment will be a struggle. Why make the end of an elderly animal’s life horrible?

I don’t think pills will be an issue for her to be honest. She’s not fussy at all. Wolfs anything down.

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MrsMoastyToasty · 11/07/2024 17:36

You need to send DSIS a message along the lines of
DSIS, I am unable to afford further treatment for dcat. Please advise what the vet should do next.

MintTwirl · 11/07/2024 17:36

My parents had this with a vet with their much loved dog. They were like you and did all the tests/pills etc because they cared so much for him and desperately wanted him to get better but really the vet should have suggest PTS much sooner.

I would PTS

FOJN · 11/07/2024 17:35

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:24

No not at all. The vet knows it isn’t my cat so I don’t think he would have been afraid to suggest putting her to sleep. He said diet and tablets.

I was writing my post as you updated so I saw that after I posted.

As other people have said vets are all about profit, especially since there are few independents around now.

The cat has hypothyroidism and probable renal failure, it's time to let her go. Your mum and sister don't seem interested so I doubt they'd resist if you suggested the cat was PTS.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:34

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 11/07/2024 17:31

You agreed to £300 worth of tests without getting agreement with the owner to pay for that? On an elderly cat who’s owner was happy to let nature take its course (and at this point you have to view your mum as the owner).

sorry think anything beyond the initial appointment fee that your sister agreed to should be covered by you. Clearly both your sister and mum would go for PTS not tests and treatment.

No it was £50 for the vet appointment. £50 for a months worth of the special food. £200 for blood panel. Owner agreed to it all but we didn’t discuss costs.

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