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To have taken my sisters cat to the vet and hope she will pay

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InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 16:58

My sister has a 19 year old cat.
Cat has lived at our mums house for a couple of years because my sister has a younger cat and a child and felt the older cat would be happier at my mums house.

Cat has come to stay at my house as my mum has gone on holiday.
Cat is clearly not well - skin and bones, ravenous and thirsty but not putting on weight. I weighed her and she is just over 2kgs. Breathing heavily at times and unsteady on her feet.

I messaged my mum to say I think cat needs to go to vet, I’ve had no response for 3 days. she’s in the U.K., not abroad.

Phoned my sister who agreed I could take her to the vet.
Vet wanted to do blood panel due to suspected hyperthyroidism so I got the ok from sister by text (she is owner so needs to agree). Sisters response to the possible diagnosis was - ‘that sounds expensive’.

Results came back and cat has severe hyperthyroidism. Too weak for surgery so treatment is special diet and pills. I explained this to sister by text and response is “ok”.

I am on the way to pick up pills now. Sister hasn’t asked me how much any of this costs (£300 so far) so is possibly expecting me to pay for it? Not sure how to approach this?

My mothers response when I’ve previously suggested cat is ill and should go to the vets is “she’s just old”.

sisters response when I said cat may also have renal failure, just to warn her that outlook may not be good was “she’s super old I wouldn’t be surprised if she needs to be put down”.

its like they both just think oh she’s old, just let her die.

But she is really suffering with the hyperthyroidism as she eats and eats but doesn’t get nutrition. With treatment she could have quality of life so to me it’s a no brainer to give her that.

I have two cats and I love them ti pieces, can’t imagine letting them come to this. I also have pet insurance for them, she doesn’t. I’m picking up the cost possibly. Should I have stayed out of this? It felt negligent to not take her to the vets whilst under my care and clearly ill.

feel really put off my mum and sister as they seem so heartless. Or am I being a martyr?

not sure how to convince my mum to buy / give cat the special food and pills once the lot I’ve got runs out.

vet needs to do more bloods in 2 weeks to check treatment is working so it may be easier to keep cat with me till then. Treatment will be for life.

I’m considering keeping cat but my partner is not keen because there is an impact on our existing two cats. They’re scared of older cat and have retreated upstairs and have been vomiting so I think they are stressed by her.

AIBU = I should have stayed out of this. Now I’ve got involved I need to suck it up in terms of vet bills and ongoing care.

IANBU = I was right to take cat to vets and sister is the owner and responsible for care, including paying me back.

OP posts:
Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 11/07/2024 18:52

I still haven't forgiven the vet who persuaded Mrs G (against my better judgement) not to put one of our cats to sleep. He used the old 'well if it was my cat I'd give her another chance' routine. The cat died alone in the vets on a drip that night.
Then the bastards gave me the bill including a fictitious charge for euthanising her. My guess is they thought I wouldn't examine the bill closely so they could get away with it. Some vets are great - I'm afraid in my experience some are utter shits.

Julyshouldbesunny · 11/07/2024 18:46

Vet took 1k off my pensioner dm for an old dcat... Tests..
Then another 200 quid to pts anyway. They saw you coming op.

Ponderingwindow · 11/07/2024 18:45

Having been down a similar path with an elderly cat before, I’m not sure I would have agreed to testing and treatment either. We put one of our cats through quite a bit at the end and it only delayed the inevitable. I really wish I had been a bit more strategic from the beginning and just made a firm decision to PTS when she started to decline.

should you have taken the cat to the vet? Probably. You saw an animal in distress and responded.

should you expect your family to continue the treatment indefinitely? Possibly not. They should talk to the vet and get a realistic prognosis.

Choochoo21 · 11/07/2024 18:44

I agree that vets don’t tend to suggest PTS.

I had to almost beg the vet to tell me whether I should PTS or not and she admitted that she’s not supposed to say and diplomatically said that it would likely be best to PTS within the next few weeks.

I don’t think it’s from a money grabbing POV but it is your pet and your responsibility and if you felt you were pushed into that decision then you’d never get over it.

PussInBin20 · 11/07/2024 18:44

Is the cat really 19 or is that just what they are telling you?

user1471538283 · 11/07/2024 18:40

Oh love. I know how hard it is but honestly it sounds like the DCat is miserable.

Our DBoycat was put on renal food and steroids at 18 and it wasn't good. He was in so much pain (he had cancer) and I was paralysed with the idea of letting him go. But we had to as he wasn't going to get better.

I'm surprised the vet hasn't mentioned letting the cat go. I'm so sorry.

musicforthesoul · 11/07/2024 18:39

I disagree with most on here, cat is a good age but I don't think it's necessarily cruel to try and treat them just because they're old. Cats can live into their 20s so it's not ancient. I wouldn't be waiting very long though to make the decision on if meds were helping.

If you're willing to take on all responsibility for the cat, I'd try the initial treatment then if no improvement after the next set of blood tests or if the cat gets stressed taking the pills PTS.

If cat is going back to your mum/sister then it's going to be better off PTS now, they let it get into this state with no treatment, they aren't going to keep up with any meds so better off letting the cat go quietly rather than carry on suffering.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 18:38

QueenCamilla · 11/07/2024 18:07

If I was 80 years old with laboured breathing, rapidly wasting away and starting to suffer organ failure - that's the exact point I'd wish for Dignitas to be a viable option in this country. Why the heck would it matter to me that some have made it to 96.

At least our pets have a decent, painless way out if anyone cares for a decent, painless way out. Not everyone does, of course.

we don’t know she has organ failure. And her breathing is fine most of the time.

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Hopelesslydevoted2Gu · 11/07/2024 18:37

The op says the cat has renal failure, not just hyperthyroidism. Even if the thyroid responds to treatment quickly, the cat will still have renal failure and be elderly. If breathless it may have heart failure too. Life expectancy will be limited.

Your mother should have absolutely taken the cat to the vet sooner to avoid it suffering, even if she would have put to sleep. Letting it get into this state was neglectful and cruel.

The chance of your mother or sister paying ongoing vet bills and giving the medicine and expensive special food is zero. No chance that they will do this. They will either put it to sleep when they get home, or let it get back into the same state again.

Unless you plan to take the cat on yourself I'd put it to sleep now. No point in it having a few weeks of treatment if it won't continue.

Personally I wouldn't take on the cat in your position. Your husband doesn't want to, it will upset your other pets, you are taking on a new pet just for the end of it's life (expensive and difficult). Whilst the cat could have treatment to extend its life for a short time, I also think it's ok to put it to sleep now

L1ttledrummergirl · 11/07/2024 18:37

FOJN · 11/07/2024 17:08

I agree with first poster, the vet is a disgrace.

A 19 year old cat with hypothyroidism, weighing just 2kg, is suffering and needs to be PTS. Anything else is just cruel.

I doubt the cat will survive for much longer and it's an awful way to let the cat die.

It's not the vets decision. If they pts without the owners consent then they could be in legal trouble.

The owner should be taking responsibility.

momtoboys · 11/07/2024 18:37

If you had taken the cat to the vet without notifying your sister I would saying paying is on you. Since she knew she is on the hook for her animal.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 18:36

UpUpUpU · 11/07/2024 17:54

You should have refused to have the cat in the first place if it’s in such bad condition.

it needs to be pts and not treated in my experience. Your sister doesn’t even want the cat and your mum probably doesn’t either.

Yes I’m hindsight this would have been better, I should have refused. But I didn’t realise how bad things were until I observed her for a little bit at my house and then later I got the diagnosis from the vet.

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Waffle78 · 11/07/2024 18:36

Agree I'm surprised vets didn't agree to PTS. When I've took old pets to the vets they won't put them through the treatment. They say it's kinder to let them go.

Zanatdy · 11/07/2024 18:33

let the vet decide whether to treat or not, not mumsnet

LammasEve · 11/07/2024 18:33

Am I the only one who thinks it's worth treating this poor little cat? I've had cats that age and while I would never prolong their life for my sake, if it's something that can be treated I'd give it a go (and have done on several occasions). I couldn't imagine not at least trying.

I currently have one cat on lifelong expensive meds and a horse on even more expensive drugs, but the difference the meds make to their quality of life is worth it.

Mongrelsrbeautiful · 11/07/2024 18:31

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:19

The vet has not suggested putting her to sleep.

Then you need to make that decision, for the cat's sake. A decent vet would have suggested it, instead of making money, at the cat's expense.

Toddlerteaplease · 11/07/2024 18:31

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:19

The vet has not suggested putting her to sleep.

They won't in my experience. With all three of nine. I had to make that call. Which is really really hard, but it was the right thing and the vets agreed that it was, after I'd made the decision.

Choochoo21 · 11/07/2024 18:30

delphi13 · 11/07/2024 18:25

My cat is 19 and has hyperthyroidism. She is still pretty happy in herself and is trotting about and loving a fuss. But despite the treatment she is on (thyronorm) she is still losing weight. Our vet has said that whilst she is still happy in herself then if we want to continue treatment then that's up to us but any time from now is reasonable to PTS. We are giving her the summer as she is enjoying lying in the sun in the garden but will take her to be PTS by summers end. She is 2.75kg and I cannot imagine how much thinner she would be at 2kg. In all honesty, it sounds like your sister's cat might be better off PTS. She has effectively wiped her hands of her anyway by passing her on to your mum and it doesn't sound like your mum cares too much. If she's not going to get much out of the next few months there is probably very little point in dragging it out. I think thyronorm never helped our cat to gain weight, only slowed the rate at which she has been losing it.

I’m sorry your cat is coming to the end of her life.
You sound like a great owner and she’s obviously had a very lovely life 💐

Toddlerteaplease · 11/07/2024 18:29

CuteCillian · 11/07/2024 17:08

You definitely did the correct thing taking DCat to the vets, but it seems that having the old boy pts would be the best solution for everyone concerned.

I think that's what I'd do. 19 is an amazing age.

delphi13 · 11/07/2024 18:28

A couple of other things that might be useful -
Thyronorm is giving in liquid form so needs to be syringed into their mouth. Our cat actively loves it though and so comes and shouts at you if you are late with the dose.

Our vet said it was a slow and unpleasant deterioration so it was better to put to sleep before they really look miserable as they will be suffering a lot without you realising.

Choochoo21 · 11/07/2024 18:28

sisters response when I said cat may also have renal failure, just to warn her that outlook may not be good was “she’s super old I wouldn’t be surprised if she needs to be put down”.

I said the exact same thing when my own cat was unwell.

You are choosing to try and extend her life, which is good intentions but this will only extend it for a few weeks/months at most.

I personally would have rang my sister and told them what the vet said and asked what she’d like to do.

If she said PTS but you wanted to try the medication, then I would have asked if she minded but not expected her to pay for the medication herself.

delphi13 · 11/07/2024 18:25

My cat is 19 and has hyperthyroidism. She is still pretty happy in herself and is trotting about and loving a fuss. But despite the treatment she is on (thyronorm) she is still losing weight. Our vet has said that whilst she is still happy in herself then if we want to continue treatment then that's up to us but any time from now is reasonable to PTS. We are giving her the summer as she is enjoying lying in the sun in the garden but will take her to be PTS by summers end. She is 2.75kg and I cannot imagine how much thinner she would be at 2kg. In all honesty, it sounds like your sister's cat might be better off PTS. She has effectively wiped her hands of her anyway by passing her on to your mum and it doesn't sound like your mum cares too much. If she's not going to get much out of the next few months there is probably very little point in dragging it out. I think thyronorm never helped our cat to gain weight, only slowed the rate at which she has been losing it.

SallyWD · 11/07/2024 18:22

I'm a huge cat lover, honestly I'm obsessed with cats. However, even I think it would probably be best to put the cat down in this case. Sometimes, because you love them, you have to do what's best for them, rather than cling on to keeping them alive.
The cat is very old - 97 in human years! And I think it's time to say goodbye. Frequent vet visits, blood tests and medication will stress the cat out. It won't have a good quality of life.

imtheprize · 11/07/2024 18:22

Someone needs to ask the vet why he has not advised PTS. Shocking, Poor cat

Starlight7080 · 11/07/2024 18:21

That poor cat . It's not going to improve . The vet will get a decent amount then probably suggest putting her down.
Go to another vet .