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To have taken my sisters cat to the vet and hope she will pay

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InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 16:58

My sister has a 19 year old cat.
Cat has lived at our mums house for a couple of years because my sister has a younger cat and a child and felt the older cat would be happier at my mums house.

Cat has come to stay at my house as my mum has gone on holiday.
Cat is clearly not well - skin and bones, ravenous and thirsty but not putting on weight. I weighed her and she is just over 2kgs. Breathing heavily at times and unsteady on her feet.

I messaged my mum to say I think cat needs to go to vet, I’ve had no response for 3 days. she’s in the U.K., not abroad.

Phoned my sister who agreed I could take her to the vet.
Vet wanted to do blood panel due to suspected hyperthyroidism so I got the ok from sister by text (she is owner so needs to agree). Sisters response to the possible diagnosis was - ‘that sounds expensive’.

Results came back and cat has severe hyperthyroidism. Too weak for surgery so treatment is special diet and pills. I explained this to sister by text and response is “ok”.

I am on the way to pick up pills now. Sister hasn’t asked me how much any of this costs (£300 so far) so is possibly expecting me to pay for it? Not sure how to approach this?

My mothers response when I’ve previously suggested cat is ill and should go to the vets is “she’s just old”.

sisters response when I said cat may also have renal failure, just to warn her that outlook may not be good was “she’s super old I wouldn’t be surprised if she needs to be put down”.

its like they both just think oh she’s old, just let her die.

But she is really suffering with the hyperthyroidism as she eats and eats but doesn’t get nutrition. With treatment she could have quality of life so to me it’s a no brainer to give her that.

I have two cats and I love them ti pieces, can’t imagine letting them come to this. I also have pet insurance for them, she doesn’t. I’m picking up the cost possibly. Should I have stayed out of this? It felt negligent to not take her to the vets whilst under my care and clearly ill.

feel really put off my mum and sister as they seem so heartless. Or am I being a martyr?

not sure how to convince my mum to buy / give cat the special food and pills once the lot I’ve got runs out.

vet needs to do more bloods in 2 weeks to check treatment is working so it may be easier to keep cat with me till then. Treatment will be for life.

I’m considering keeping cat but my partner is not keen because there is an impact on our existing two cats. They’re scared of older cat and have retreated upstairs and have been vomiting so I think they are stressed by her.

AIBU = I should have stayed out of this. Now I’ve got involved I need to suck it up in terms of vet bills and ongoing care.

IANBU = I was right to take cat to vets and sister is the owner and responsible for care, including paying me back.

OP posts:
InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 12/07/2024 07:07

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the support. It’s really distressing and I’m angry they’ve left this to me and are just ignoring the whole thing.

The thread has made me realise I need to have a really serious conversation with them about the two options - care for her or PTS. Continuing to ignore the situation is neglectful and cruel and I am determined not to let them do that.

If my mum refuses to care for her properly then my sister needs to either take her back or take her to the vets to PTS. Or I can do this but it’s her decision and she should pay me back for it.

My sister is planning to get a puppy next so I can see what happens next - she’ll give the second cat to my mum and this will all be repeated in a few years time.

OP posts:
zoom1982 · 12/07/2024 06:47

Our sweet girl was 18 and had all the symptoms you describe. We had her PTS 3weeks ago after having her for 15 wonderful years. It's the hardest thing we've ever had to do and as someone unable to have children it has left me utterly bereft and completely heartbroken but it was the kindest thing to do for our beloved Lu. Your sister's cat will not get better no matter how many pills or special diet products it consumes. I'm so sorry you find yourself in this horrible situation. Sending hugs.

Londonrach1 · 12/07/2024 06:42

At 19 and suffering it's kinder to pts. Vet just wants money.

EsmeSusanOgg · 12/07/2024 06:37

This is terribly sad. YANBU to take the cat to the vet. But if the care is not going to be kept up, then it would be kinder for the cat to be PTS.

I am surprised the vet did not suggest this as an option given the cost of ongoing care and age of the cat.

EsmeSusanOgg · 12/07/2024 06:36

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 17:19

The vet has not suggested putting her to sleep.

Well no, they want to be paid for ongoing care for the next few months...

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 12/07/2024 06:23

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 19:15

It’s a bit harsh to shame me. The cat isn’t well so I’ve taken her to the vet and followed the advice given.

Thank you for taking the poor thing to the vet OP. You did what you believe was right. The cat may respond well, nobody knows. It’s a shame you can’t take the cat as your mum isn’t going to keep up with treatment by the sounds of it.

I hope your DM doesn’t get another cat (along with most of mn).

I’m astounded by the number of vets on this post- wow. Dishing out veterinary advice! Should’ve come here first OP🙄 Thing is your DM didn’t make the decision to pts- she’s letting the cat suffer. She won’t want to pay for euthanisia either.

@BeachRide ODFOD for shame yourself. Clearly no animal lover!

It’s not the Op’s cat so she can’t push to euthanise.

TheNoodlesIncident · 12/07/2024 06:14

I’m considering keeping cat but my partner is not keen because there is an impact on our existing two cats. They’re scared of older cat and have retreated upstairs and have been vomiting so I think they are stressed by her.

I would think a lot harder about this. I had to rehome one of my two cats because the stress of each other's presence was making them both ill. I had to make the decision in the best interests of both cats and ignoring my own personal feelings (I was heartbroken), because I had responsibility for their wellbeing.

If you take this very ill and very elderly cat on, you will have vet's bills and meds costs plus all the extra food, plus you will be stressing out your existing cats. I really wouldn't recommend that as being in ALL the pets' best interests.

If you return the elderly cat to your mum's care when she gets back, do you think she or your sister are going to pay you back for the costs you've incurred? Do you believe she will start to engage with costs and care of the cat, when previously she must have been aware the cat was ailing and yet did nothing? I reckon both your mum and sister are OK with just leaving nature to take its course and the cat die in her own time.

In these circumstances I would push for euthanising the cat, because the owners don't want to bother with her. I wouldn't take her on myself because of the existing pets. It's hard, but ultimately we have responsibility to pet animals which means making tough decisions.

Mia184 · 12/07/2024 05:13

Malahide · 11/07/2024 19:25

A previously homeless cat who just needed a bit of TLC is very different to an unhealthy cat with a chronic condition.

A chronic condition that can easily be treated with medication in the majority of cases.

WhichEllie · 11/07/2024 22:28

Those that are upset, saying that the cat needs to be treated and sharing their own stories need to remember that the difference is that YOUR cat has a loving owner. This cat does not, and it sounds like OP trying to keep it would cause problems with her other cats (which are already hiding and vomiting because they don’t like this cat in their house) as well as with her husband. It also sounds like she doesn’t have the finances to commit to longterm treatment for this, which is expensive. That is why it is kindest to have her euthanized.

It is also not great that the cat has had her hyperthyroidism untreated for so long. My mother has a cat in the exact same situation. He’s somewhere between 18 and 22 years old and suffered with hyperthyroidism for a long time before I saw him while visiting and insisted that he see a vet. They have never been able to get his hyperthyroidism under control.

It costs her about £600-700 every 3 months. He is suffering, emaciated, eats constantly, and also going into renal failure. He is miserable, uncomfortable, and has no quality of life but because “he still wanders around and eats” she lets him carry on suffering. It’s inhumane, but I have run out of things to say trying to appeal to her sense of decency. I suspect that she wants him to pass without having to intervene and feeling like the “bad guy,” regardless of how much pain he endures in the meantime. It sounds like OP’s mother and sister might do the same. It would be much better for the cat to not go through this.

Jezabelle85 · 11/07/2024 22:06

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 16:58

My sister has a 19 year old cat.
Cat has lived at our mums house for a couple of years because my sister has a younger cat and a child and felt the older cat would be happier at my mums house.

Cat has come to stay at my house as my mum has gone on holiday.
Cat is clearly not well - skin and bones, ravenous and thirsty but not putting on weight. I weighed her and she is just over 2kgs. Breathing heavily at times and unsteady on her feet.

I messaged my mum to say I think cat needs to go to vet, I’ve had no response for 3 days. she’s in the U.K., not abroad.

Phoned my sister who agreed I could take her to the vet.
Vet wanted to do blood panel due to suspected hyperthyroidism so I got the ok from sister by text (she is owner so needs to agree). Sisters response to the possible diagnosis was - ‘that sounds expensive’.

Results came back and cat has severe hyperthyroidism. Too weak for surgery so treatment is special diet and pills. I explained this to sister by text and response is “ok”.

I am on the way to pick up pills now. Sister hasn’t asked me how much any of this costs (£300 so far) so is possibly expecting me to pay for it? Not sure how to approach this?

My mothers response when I’ve previously suggested cat is ill and should go to the vets is “she’s just old”.

sisters response when I said cat may also have renal failure, just to warn her that outlook may not be good was “she’s super old I wouldn’t be surprised if she needs to be put down”.

its like they both just think oh she’s old, just let her die.

But she is really suffering with the hyperthyroidism as she eats and eats but doesn’t get nutrition. With treatment she could have quality of life so to me it’s a no brainer to give her that.

I have two cats and I love them ti pieces, can’t imagine letting them come to this. I also have pet insurance for them, she doesn’t. I’m picking up the cost possibly. Should I have stayed out of this? It felt negligent to not take her to the vets whilst under my care and clearly ill.

feel really put off my mum and sister as they seem so heartless. Or am I being a martyr?

not sure how to convince my mum to buy / give cat the special food and pills once the lot I’ve got runs out.

vet needs to do more bloods in 2 weeks to check treatment is working so it may be easier to keep cat with me till then. Treatment will be for life.

I’m considering keeping cat but my partner is not keen because there is an impact on our existing two cats. They’re scared of older cat and have retreated upstairs and have been vomiting so I think they are stressed by her.

AIBU = I should have stayed out of this. Now I’ve got involved I need to suck it up in terms of vet bills and ongoing care.

IANBU = I was right to take cat to vets and sister is the owner and responsible for care, including paying me back.

Aww bless you OP, it must be hard for you to see the cat in the state it was in.
For everyone saying to PTS, that obviously was not your decision to make.
Your sister/mum needs to make that call.
You did the right thing by taking the poor love to the vet and as you informed your sister of the treatments and got her permission to go ahead, I believe she should be responsible for the bills.
You sound very kind, caring for this lovely old cat.
I hope you decide to keep her and she gets to leave out her last days in a loving and caring home.
You will know when it’s time to say goodbye, and the decision will be made easier if she doesn’t improve rapidly with the medication.

BMW6 · 11/07/2024 20:36

fatandhappyxxx · 11/07/2024 19:40

They never do

That's NOT true.

We took our 14 yo ddog to emergency vet last year when he suddenly became very poorly.

It was the vet who said they could do tests but at his advanced age it would be kinder to PTS. We did there and then.

xyzabcde · 11/07/2024 20:36

DogInATent · 11/07/2024 19:52

You don't give thyroxine for hyperthyroidism.

(and yes, I got my hypo- and hyper- confused in my earlier post)

re BatshitCrazyWoman and DogInATent

I forget what thyroid problem he had but it, whatever it was, fixed him.

As someone else has said - he went onto a special diet too.

It was like a miracle cure.

ItWasnaMeGuv · 11/07/2024 20:23

@InWithPeaceOutWithStress my experience last October when my elderly cat (17) became ill at the cattery. Cattery owner contacted me and she agreed to take cat to my vet. My vet called me and we talked about treatment. I paid over the phone. Another visit to vet later in week and more treatment. I paid over the phone. Thankfully, cat been fine since. I am under no illusions though, he is old, has lost weight but stable at the moment. If that changes, putting down is probably the best option. I will not prolong his suffering (but will miss him terribly). Your sister should have arranged to pay bills with vet, not you. Hope you get the money off her.

Roosnoodles · 11/07/2024 20:22

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Roosnoodles · 11/07/2024 20:22

Don’t touch the pills with your bare hands. I ignored the instructions and got I’ll.

Bumcake · 11/07/2024 20:19

It’s very kind of you to take this on, your mother has been quite cruel and negligent.

My 16 yo cat is currently undergoing this treatment. We took her in early in the process so she’s not in bad shape and is responding well to medicine. She just has a liquid added to her feed twice a day, no struggles with pills. It’s absolutely not a pts scenario here, just an old age illness to be managed and monitored.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 20:18

Update: she has eaten up all the food in her bowl including the pill which is very small.

To counteract any posters that will be dismayed that I’ve given her a pill rather than PTS - just to remind you that I wasn’t even aware of the PTS option till I posted here and I’d already agreed with the vet to try her on the medication.

It also sounds like I wouldn’t have authority to make that decision as I am only temporarily caring for her (although I’m still considering keeping her as she was being neglected at my mums).

OP posts:
Roosnoodles · 11/07/2024 20:07

My cat was 18 with hyperthyroidism and renal degeneration the pills will work fine. You need to buy the renal food as well. This is very costly. My boy was still bouncing around at 23 and had to be put to sleep for a completely unrelated illness which to be fair was probably old age, the vet said he should be they don’t just keep animals hanging on for money. Some weight will go back on once the pills slow down his metabolism. His drinking will slow down also. His kidneys will never regenerate so he’ll need the food for the rest of his life.
Your family will not pay for any of this the people that put animals to sleep as soon as they encounter an issue never do. Sorry OP it’s going to come down to you.

NorthernLady91 · 11/07/2024 20:07

Forgot to say that if you google hyperthyroidism in cats, the prognosis is generally good.

time2changeCharlieBrown · 11/07/2024 20:03

Sorry but I agree vets take advantage of situations like this sorry

NorthernLady91 · 11/07/2024 20:00

I disagree with some posters who say pts. I have had over active thyroid (hyperthyroidism) and felt absolutely awful. Fast heart rate and losing weight despite constantly eating, but with medication (carbimazole) I started feeling much better very quickly. If it was my cat I would give it a go. Not to be confused with underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism) which is treated with thyroxine.

NeomDiffuser · 11/07/2024 20:00

Your sister clearly doesn't care about the poor cat (shown by the fact she replaced it with a younger model) - agree that PTS is the kindest option here. Well done for caring OP.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 11/07/2024 19:56

The medication is thiamazole.

OP posts:
BatshitCrazyWoman · 11/07/2024 19:55

xyzabcde · 11/07/2024 19:46

The thyroxin was given via a needless syringe squirted into his mouth once a day.

Would a cat with hyperthyroidism be given thyroxin? I have hyperthyroidism and that would kill me! I took carbimazole, an anti-thyroid drug.

I'm 60, so elderly according to some of MN, and hyperthyroid. Perhaps I should just die?? OP I would treat that cat and see how she responds.

MexicanChiWowWow · 11/07/2024 19:54

You're a very kind person OP.

My older cat passed age 21, and it was definitely their time to go.

At this point I wouldn't treat anything. I'd personally offer a platter or salmon, tuna and cheese and let the old cat have a nice few dinners.