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Late School Start Monday

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PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 14:40

Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

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HaPPy8 · 11/07/2024 15:42

60andsomething · 11/07/2024 14:43

Encouraging children to enjoy and participate in a cultural event with massive importance for the country - very educational in itself, and nourishing for those children's sense of community and identity - and encouragement to participate in team games and competitive sport! Healthy role models too. Far more important than a prompt Monday morning start in the last week of term - I hope other schools follow suit

Agree with this! I’ve no interest in football but I think it’s a nice thing to do!

Itsmyshadow · 11/07/2024 15:40

Crystallizedring · 11/07/2024 15:31

Isn't that going to be really disruptive having some children in at normal time and some at 10?
I mean it's the last week or so of term but it seems a bit of a faff.
I can't understand why the final is on so late? Surely if they had kick off at 5 it would make more sense.

Yes no idea why it needs to be that late! It’s a 9pm kick off in Germany and no other game beforehand 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Itsmyshadow · 11/07/2024 15:38

DarkForces · 11/07/2024 15:22

I'd want them to do the same as they did for the Lionesses!

Their final last year was school holidays, but you make a very valid point that schools really should do the same for both teams should the Lionesses make a final in term time!

2dogsandabudgie · 11/07/2024 15:34

Of course it's fair! I'm not usually interested in football but even I hope we win.

crumblingschools · 11/07/2024 15:34

Maybe they are trying to reduce the number of drunk drivers on the road in the early morning

Crystallizedring · 11/07/2024 15:31

Isn't that going to be really disruptive having some children in at normal time and some at 10?
I mean it's the last week or so of term but it seems a bit of a faff.
I can't understand why the final is on so late? Surely if they had kick off at 5 it would make more sense.

OhmygodDont · 11/07/2024 15:26

Chatter on the playground this morning was it should be a bank holiday if we win 🤣

x2boys · 11/07/2024 15:25

It's a one off in the for many iszthe last week of term
But this being mumsnet I'm sure there will.be be lots of threads moaning about it.

DarkForces · 11/07/2024 15:25

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 11/07/2024 15:24

In fairness I think that was an afternoon match, not evening (but I think we can guess whether they'd have given children time off for it...)

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PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 15:24

Although I cant help thinking... wouldn't it be more sensible if the European football scheduled the Final for a Saturday night? Surely Sunday is inconvenient for most European countries....

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DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 11/07/2024 15:24

DarkForces · 11/07/2024 15:22

I'd want them to do the same as they did for the Lionesses!

In fairness I think that was an afternoon match, not evening (but I think we can guess whether they'd have given children time off for it...)

Dulra · 11/07/2024 15:22

HcbSS · 11/07/2024 14:41

Well very few bosses will be allowing late starts so why should schools? And who will look after the kids while having a lie in if the parents have to be at work at normal time?

The school will be open says it in the op

DarkForces · 11/07/2024 15:22

I'd want them to do the same as they did for the Lionesses!

Tenaciousbeyondallthings · 11/07/2024 15:20

TinyYellow · 11/07/2024 14:46

The country is in the final, there’s only an opportunity for this once every four years and it’s nearly the end of the school year so new learning is at a minimum. How miserly do you have to be to begrudge one measly hour so that families can enjoy a huge event which might be very important to them? It’s also a nice gesture for the staff who get nothing in the way of perks and are already overworked and underpaid.

Appreciating your staff and valuing family time when big, very infrequent events happen is a great example to set for children. Your DH needs to get over himself.

You are spot on .

No skin in this game as kids are grown but absolutely agree

reallytimetodeclutter · 11/07/2024 15:17

How nice! Some workplaces (offices) have been screening matched for employees. I don't think it's a bad example to have the odd bit of flexibility.

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PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 15:17

I am sure, if England win, there will be many children with happy memories. Or even if they don't. It is going to be a fun occasion for a lot of people.

We would even let DD watch it if she wanted... but she has a particular dislike of football due to the actions of some boys at school.

(And don't worry about DH... he will be setting his good example by coaching his Youth rugby team on Sunday morning, and getting up at 4am for his commute on Monday, like every week)

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NewName24 · 11/07/2024 15:12

Lovely to her the memories Smile

Bacon butties ... mmmmm.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 11/07/2024 14:54

TinyYellow · 11/07/2024 14:46

The country is in the final, there’s only an opportunity for this once every four years and it’s nearly the end of the school year so new learning is at a minimum. How miserly do you have to be to begrudge one measly hour so that families can enjoy a huge event which might be very important to them? It’s also a nice gesture for the staff who get nothing in the way of perks and are already overworked and underpaid.

Appreciating your staff and valuing family time when big, very infrequent events happen is a great example to set for children. Your DH needs to get over himself.

It isn't a gesture to the staff beyond having a few fewer children for the first hour. The school is still open at the same time for those who want/have to send their children.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 11/07/2024 14:53

Your H is being miserable - it’s one day!

Also, lots of workplaces will surely be flexible on Monday

savoycabbage · 11/07/2024 14:52

I remember being at a school play when my dd was in primary school and England were playing and the head announced that they were going to miss out the interval and as soon as they play was finished they would open the fire doors in the hall so people could leg it home.

I can remember how excited all of the children were and dd and I ran home holding hands. She was dressed as Robin Hood. It was lovely and I will always remember it.

I'm sure all the fine examples that your husband sets your dd will negate this.

Zonder · 11/07/2024 14:50

Presumably children can still go in at the normal time but they don't have to? So no problem for people who have to get to work?

OhmygodDont · 11/07/2024 14:50

I remember one year in primary it was a big football event. The school opened early, it was wear something England and the cooks even came in early to make bacon butties for the whole school to watch the game.

Now logically it would of been because some parents wouldn’t of bothered to bring their children in, but it felt amazing as a child that day watching the football with our buddies with our bacon butties in school.

Emmacb82 · 11/07/2024 14:49

It irritates me because when the olympics are on, or any other sporting event where achievements are made, there are no concessions. It is only for football. And yes I am bias because although I will watch it, my eldest is 8 and has no interest in it so will be in bed for normal time. But to be honest, even if he did want to watch it, he would still be in school for normal time. What does it teach them? If they have an appointment and miss the beginning of the school day they would be marked absent. So why does football mean that they can be late in.

JennyfromtheBlok · 11/07/2024 14:48

Well in my household one has Work Experience and the other Activities week! So they’ll be up and about for that. And me and husband work, no different here…

LittleBrenda · 11/07/2024 14:48

I can't imagine worrying that this would set a bad example to a primary school child.