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Late School Start Monday

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PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 14:40

Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

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crumblingschools · 12/07/2024 09:48

I’m sure the school are thinking of the parents not the pupils, they just know that there will be some hungover parents who aren’t going to be up in time to get DC to school.

Other sporting events like Wimbledon, Olympics probably wouldn’t result in the same level of inebriation

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 12/07/2024 09:36

Itsjustnotcricket11 · 12/07/2024 09:27

What makes me so angry is the pure hypocrisy that there is usually NO excuse to be late or have a day off school.
I guess because I’m not English and asked to take my DD out of school one day earlier as her sisters have finished the day before so we can travel and see my family for the first time in 2 years they say no and must come in right to the last day even though they will finish at 12:30.
Not one response on here has explained why football is more important than my family.
If schools are going to be so stuck on attendance and lateness then football is a piss poor excuse.
Either you allow some flexibility or you don’t

Normally I would be all for this and love sports and think it would be fun but the schools have ruined it and I have no respect for them and now even more likely to take them out of school now as my reasons are more important than a silly game.

I agree with this.

YellowphantGrey · 12/07/2024 09:30

PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 14:40

Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

I think if they are arriving back at 10pm from a school trip then they should extend the start to 10am on those days too.

But if they are open as usual then there isn't really an issue because you can send them in as normal so it doesn't impact you. They haven't said you can't come in till 10.

I know a few people who've booked Monday off or half a day once England made it to the finals.

Itsjustnotcricket11 · 12/07/2024 09:27

What makes me so angry is the pure hypocrisy that there is usually NO excuse to be late or have a day off school.
I guess because I’m not English and asked to take my DD out of school one day earlier as her sisters have finished the day before so we can travel and see my family for the first time in 2 years they say no and must come in right to the last day even though they will finish at 12:30.
Not one response on here has explained why football is more important than my family.
If schools are going to be so stuck on attendance and lateness then football is a piss poor excuse.
Either you allow some flexibility or you don’t

Normally I would be all for this and love sports and think it would be fun but the schools have ruined it and I have no respect for them and now even more likely to take them out of school now as my reasons are more important than a silly game.

marcopront · 12/07/2024 09:03

LlynTegid · 12/07/2024 07:45

The 2028 Olympics are in LA, though largely in school holidays. Some of the events with likely team GB medals will be late in the evening UK time,

So let's what happens in 4 years time.

I'm still waiting for evidence that it could have happened and didn't.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 12/07/2024 07:57

Ds is school is doing the same.9.30 start yay!

LlynTegid · 12/07/2024 07:45

The 2028 Olympics are in LA, though largely in school holidays. Some of the events with likely team GB medals will be late in the evening UK time,

LlynTegid · 12/07/2024 07:43

I understand but don't agree with it, though a useful lesson in disappointment is likely.

marcopront · 12/07/2024 07:41

A question for the people saying would they do it for the women's euros, Wimbledon, the Olympics etc

Please give the dates when these took place on a Sunday and finished after 10:00 pm.

itsgettingweird · 12/07/2024 07:28

Makes sense.

Rather than having loads of unauthorised absences and late marks they are allowing those who will sleep in to sleep in.

People are more likely to send their kids in if they know being late doesn't matter.

VisitationRights · 12/07/2024 07:24

It is ridiculous and probably has more to do with how adults will be feeling rather than the children.

exLtEveDallas · 12/07/2024 07:22

I am hoping my head makes the decision to do the same.

Yesterday our attendance went down to 91% and we had something like 15 lates after 9am. It's a practical way to try to combat that. I don't particularly like the footie because my police (DA) reports go up as well, but I think it's worth it, especially when we have a number of kids that are really anxious about attendance and punctuality and their parents don't actually care.

Trainntrack · 12/07/2024 07:21

Branster · 12/07/2024 07:12

Meh it's for the benefit of parents and teachers. Although I can't imagine the majority would absolutely need a later start at work on Monday.
Hardly a 'cultural' event as someone upthread called it, but it is nice to get children to enthuse about a national team where the scopes are high.
I don't see a problem with a later start, especially so close to end of school year.

Our school have explicitly said children are not to be late Monday morning 😆 I wouldn’t get angry or annoyed by it though if ours did. I imagine it is a bit of a pain for the teachers though in terms of teaching, having kids coming in at different times across the morning.

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 07:19

whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 12/07/2024 07:03

It would piss me off no end that they've decided football is so important the child can miss school but if it were something the parent deems important then they could still get "told off" for it

Except your child can still go in at the normal time so it really isn't an issue . And they may even get the benefit of working 1 to 1 with the teacher.

Branster · 12/07/2024 07:12

Meh it's for the benefit of parents and teachers. Although I can't imagine the majority would absolutely need a later start at work on Monday.
Hardly a 'cultural' event as someone upthread called it, but it is nice to get children to enthuse about a national team where the scopes are high.
I don't see a problem with a later start, especially so close to end of school year.

whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 12/07/2024 07:03

It would piss me off no end that they've decided football is so important the child can miss school but if it were something the parent deems important then they could still get "told off" for it

Whinge · 12/07/2024 06:59

It would bother me though if I needed to be in work at normal time and usually dropped the kids off on the way.

It wouldn't make a difference to your normal routine, as the school will be open at the usual time.

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 06:59

AloeVerity · 11/07/2024 18:06

I don’t begrudge the idea. But - there are other games with cultural significance. Did this happen when the women played? For Wimbledon? The last Olympics? It seems sexist to me, and smacks of a last minute bid to gain kudos with parents.

I would look at the viewing figures for each and that may give you a clue as to why they do it for the men's football.

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 12/07/2024 06:58

The late start on Monday is practical, there’s either going to be a lot of kids turning up late or a lot of cranky tired ones, or both.

But I agree with you about the school being unfair about the school trip where children didn’t get home til
after 10pm and then being expected in normal time the next day. I would have sent mine in when they were ready on that occasion.

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 06:58

Blasting · 11/07/2024 18:21

It is such a shame that the match isn't scheduled for Saturday evening. Far more relaxing and social all round!

🤣🤣🤣

MrHarleyQuin · 12/07/2024 06:57

It's a bit daft for primary school kids, it's not like they are going to have a hangover. That said, it wouldn't bother me. It would bother me though if I needed to be in work at normal time and usually dropped the kids off on the way.

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 06:55

TraumaSalt · 11/07/2024 17:25

Why would a football match make children late the next day?

The match starts at 8pm and could potentially go on until after 10.30pm if it goes to extra time and penalties. As a primary aged child my kids would be in bed by 8 (or maybe 9 by y6) thus they are allowing for later than usual bedtimes for them all assuming they stay up to watch.

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 06:53

We had this back when my son was younger and when the World Cup was in Korea/Japan and the England match was early am due to time difference. Then it was they were expected to arrive within 30 minutes of the end of the match (allowing for ET and penalties). The kids and parents were on the whole delighted.

It' s no big deal if they are open for those that want or need to drop off at normal time.

One hour and 15 minutes is nothing in the grand scheme of things when you think of the time they spend watching a video at the end of term, kids waiting around when there are shows or sports days where they are participating for 5 minutes.

So sad that some people are such fun sponges at the time of togetherness and a source of happiness for the country.

OhmygodDont · 12/07/2024 06:50

whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 12/07/2024 06:46

Then the parents need to sort their shit out

That they should be as always it will be the shit ones.

Same as the attendance fines and bs didn’t and doesn’t stop the actual regularly off or late just affects the odd family that book a holiday or two in a school year.

whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 12/07/2024 06:46

OhmygodDont · 12/07/2024 06:33

It will be because of the parents rather than children mostly.

Then the parents need to sort their shit out