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Late School Start Monday

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PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 14:40

Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

OP posts:
MinnieMountain · 12/07/2024 13:54

@TakeOnFlea a spirt of togetherness only happens when it’s a thing we care about doesn’t it?

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 13:52

Possibly does but I wasn't responding to the OP

TempsPerdu · 12/07/2024 13:51

The Coronation
The Jubilee
VE Day
The Queen's Funeral

I think this list serve to prove OP’s point actually. Basically we are awarded bank holidays/lie ins for royals or football (notably not for VE Day). Bread and circuses.

Personally I’d have liked a lie in last Friday after the election results - we did the school run on 3 hours sleep.

ItsAlrightDarling · 12/07/2024 13:49

Regardless as to whether people are personally interested in the football or not (I’m not, and won’t be watching), huge numbers of the country will presumably be watching and the schools will be doing it to protect their attendance numbers to some degree. My kids have finished for the summer so it makes no difference to us anyway, but despite being a non football watching family I couldn’t get worked up about it. I’d just take mine in at normal time.

Longma · 12/07/2024 13:48

TraumaSalt · 11/07/2024 17:25

Why would a football match make children late the next day?

I assume it's the timing.
The match starts at 8pm so they will be going to bed a lot later than normal.

I think the school is just trying to offer a.nice gesture to the parents in light the football. And it's entirely optional - children can still go in as normal as well.

But some people always want to see negativity in whatever others try to do.

PollyPeep · 12/07/2024 13:46

Matronic6 · 12/07/2024 13:40

But the school may actually be doing it in response to poor punctuality because of the football. A third of our pupils missed registration yesterday. My friends school was something like 46%. So they made the decision to do a late registration on Monday anticipating the same as it negatively affects their records.

Schools don't allow poor attendance for any other reason. They actually crack down pretty hard. Even being ten minutes late is a big deal. It seems odd to make an exception for something as nonsensical as a football match, but that might be my personal view coming into play 😂

Longma · 12/07/2024 13:46

Weve just had the updated Fines letter saying how much it's going to be next year.

Different things and unrelated to one another.

The increase in fines is not coming from the individual school and it's been well published for several weeks/months now.

SummerSnowstorm · 12/07/2024 13:44

HcbSS · 11/07/2024 14:41

Well very few bosses will be allowing late starts so why should schools? And who will look after the kids while having a lie in if the parents have to be at work at normal time?

Plenty will. Tesco is shutting their express stores for their employees to watch the game.

funinthesun19 · 12/07/2024 13:44

My children’s schools will be open all day which I’m glad about because it’s the last week of term and I have loads to do before Friday. Losing a day would be really annoying.

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 13:43

@MinnieMountain where did I say anything about "giving a crap" about the royal family? I was replying to the poster who said national celebrations where some leeway is often given is "only ever football".

The Millenium was another. You don't have to "give a crap" to lighten up a bit and take it for what it is 🤣

Longma · 12/07/2024 13:41

It's optional so I see no issue.

Staff will have to be in anyway and will look after children who arrive at the normal time.

School likely know there will be some disruption due to a late finish in the Sunday and are just taking a sensible approach to potential lateness or absences.

You'll have more people bring the children in a bit late when it's allowed rather than just taking the while day off if it wasn't allowed.

Parents can make a choice. Can't see the issue with that.

And I'm not even a football fan. It'll be in our tv but I won't be seeking it out and watching specifically. I still don't see any real issue here.

It's also happened before for other big events.
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Matronic6 · 12/07/2024 13:40

PollyPeep · 12/07/2024 13:24

I think it's because the school has said it's ok for kids to turn up late because there was a football match on the night before. It sets a pretty weird example on lots of fronts.

But the school may actually be doing it in response to poor punctuality because of the football. A third of our pupils missed registration yesterday. My friends school was something like 46%. So they made the decision to do a late registration on Monday anticipating the same as it negatively affects their records.

MinnieMountain · 12/07/2024 13:32

Or plenty of us who also don’t give a crap about the royal family @TakeOnFlea .

CatamaranViper · 12/07/2024 13:30

I would struggle to pick many of the England team out of a line up and the only rule I really know is you're supposed to score goals past the other teams goalie, but my god I get swept up in the football fever when the world cup and euros are on.

PollyPeep · 12/07/2024 13:24

Matronic6 · 12/07/2024 13:21

I don't get the big deal and why people are 'fuming' about it. The school is open. They can send their child at the usual time. They can choose to do it or not.

I think it's because the school has said it's ok for kids to turn up late because there was a football match on the night before. It sets a pretty weird example on lots of fronts.

Matronic6 · 12/07/2024 13:21

I don't get the big deal and why people are 'fuming' about it. The school is open. They can send their child at the usual time. They can choose to do it or not.

PollyPeep · 12/07/2024 13:20

I'd be annoyed too. It's the principle that men's football is something that everyone will be excited about. As a family we have no interest in football, men's or women's. I find the culture around football gross. And yet, by setting this rule that children can come in later because there was a football match on TV the evening before, it sets the expectation that everyone will be watching it. Why should my child be made to feel left out because he doesn't like watching football? Should we all be forced to watch football? I don't see this happening with any other "cultural event". Are we going to let kids come in late because there was a tennis match the evening before?

Also echo PP, even I know the women's football team won something recently so not sure why this is such a big deal.

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 13:20

"Why does togetherness only have to be about football?"

The Coronation
The Jubilee
VE Day
The Queen's Funeral

And that's just the last few years. Some very short memories on this thread. Misers.

crumblingschools · 12/07/2024 13:18

@Dontcallmescarface are you referring to parents or staff when saying it isn’t for children’s benefit? All staff will need to be in as school is open, it’s just the closing of registration that is late

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 13:16

"I think some schools did this after the Womens Euros as well."

Well they didn't but ok 🤣

People need to seriously lighten up and remember the excitement as a kid when something big and out of the ordinary happens.

TempsPerdu · 12/07/2024 13:15

Same here OP - we’ve just received a similar email. I think it’s ridiculous, and hate football’s hegemonic status in our culture - the whole thing is toxic IMO. We’ve already had a non-uniform day to celebrate England reaching the semis. No mention whatsoever of the Olympics happening later this summer.

I’m a governor at the school, and given that DD is a keen footballer herself I’ll be keeping a close eye on the school to see what, if anything, happens with the Women’s Euros next year…

Notchangingnameagain · 12/07/2024 13:13

Lovely, I hope our schools do this.

I still get goose bumps when I think about some of the games played when the school put them on in the hall. The atmosphere was electric and the children had a blast. Wonderful memory.

Dontcallmescarface · 12/07/2024 13:11

The school should insist that all the DC are there at the normal time otherwise they have opened themselves wide to parents not bringing their DC to school on time on other occasions . "Sorry but Jimmy won't be in school until after 10am on Wednesday because there's something on the telly he wants to watch that doesn't finish until late. It's ok though because you let it happen when the football was on". Of course we all know that the late start is not for the children's benefit at all.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 12/07/2024 13:10

I think some schools did this after the Womens Euros as well.

Unlikely. That was an afternoon match on 31st July, so in the summer holidays.

Unless you're saying they did it for matches earlier in the tournament? I'd be very surprised.

AllIThinkAbourIsKarma · 12/07/2024 13:06

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