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Late School Start Monday

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PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 14:40

Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

OP posts:
Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 16:17

CatMumSlave · 12/07/2024 15:10

10pm isn't that late for primary aged kids.

It is for many. Depends on how you parent I guess. Also it could be 10.45 if it goes to extra time and penalties.

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 16:15

macaroniandcheeze · 12/07/2024 10:35

Perhaps the viewing figures would be higher for other sports if they were given as much cultural importance as football.

The football obsession is unhealthy in this country. I think a lot of men love it because they think it could/should have been them. Success by association.

And domestic violence increases when England loses

I think women love it too.

Which is why it has become culturally important.

marcopront · 12/07/2024 16:09

@x2boys

Its the last week of term nothing much gets done in the last week

So another reason for why it is different to child X missing an afternoon earlier in the year.

PregnantWithHorrors · 12/07/2024 15:29

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 06:59

I would look at the viewing figures for each and that may give you a clue as to why they do it for the men's football.

And also the fact that the finals the Lionesses made were both in the school holidays. So are the Olympics normally, I think the last time they weren't was in 2000. Plus the Wimbledon finals start in the afternoon. So the timing means none of these things are equivalent.

Ultimately, this is just practical. Because of the timeslot and the popularity of the event, the kids all turning up at the usual time on Monday is not one of the school's choices. They're responding accordingly.

x2boys · 12/07/2024 15:12

marcopront · 12/07/2024 15:00

The number of people who cannot see the difference between one child being off and missing the content/skills that are taught that day and the whole class being allowed to come in late and so nothing new is done is scary.

Its the last week of term nothing much gets done in the last week.

CatMumSlave · 12/07/2024 15:10

But yes it's a good idea.

CatMumSlave · 12/07/2024 15:10

10pm isn't that late for primary aged kids.

marcopront · 12/07/2024 15:00

The number of people who cannot see the difference between one child being off and missing the content/skills that are taught that day and the whole class being allowed to come in late and so nothing new is done is scary.

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 12/07/2024 14:57

The absolute kill joys on this thread 😂😂

Natsku · 12/07/2024 14:43

Its a nice thing to do, though it would be nice if schools would be more flexible in other special situations too, of course. But you don't gain other nice things by taking away this nice thing, so don't understand why anyone would complain about it.
I remember a world cup when I was in secondary school and there was an England match during the school day - the school put it on in the assembly hall for anyone who wanted to watch to watch, so we'd still come into school. That was a really nice memory.
Last winter olympics the events were on during the school day and my DD's teacher let them watch a lot of them in class, another nice memory for the children though I suspect it was less for the children's benefit and more for the their teacher Grin

I'm just glad the summer holidays already started in my country so this isn't an issue at all, though kick off isn't until 10 in my time zone so its a very late night for my youngest (but no way will I force him to miss it, he's been loving watching the games with me)

DinnaeFashYersel · 12/07/2024 14:40

We are into week 3 of the school holidays so not affected. But I think its a lovely idea.

My workplace have just announced that everyone is invited to have a late start on Monday morning.

x2boys · 12/07/2024 14:35

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 14:27

"Would anyone be that pathetic?"

Judging by the current miserly tone that is MN I'd say yes they would. Sad

Yep they are falling over them selves on the I hate football thread ,to win the I hate football the most title happens every time there's a tournament .

ACynicalDad · 12/07/2024 14:35

I've told my organisation we start at 10 (was going to be 11 but had a few too many meetings to move). I think it's the thought that counts, not sure many will even watch the football, some aren't English (or Spanish). I think a school doing it, so long as they can take kids from the normal time, particularly right at the end of the summer term is great.

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 14:27

"Would anyone be that pathetic?"

Judging by the current miserly tone that is MN I'd say yes they would. Sad

Iwasafool · 12/07/2024 14:23

Dontcallmescarface · 12/07/2024 13:11

The school should insist that all the DC are there at the normal time otherwise they have opened themselves wide to parents not bringing their DC to school on time on other occasions . "Sorry but Jimmy won't be in school until after 10am on Wednesday because there's something on the telly he wants to watch that doesn't finish until late. It's ok though because you let it happen when the football was on". Of course we all know that the late start is not for the children's benefit at all.

Would anyone be that pathetic?

lazyarse123 · 12/07/2024 14:19

Might ring my boss and ask if I can go in at 10.00 instead of 6.00 even though I won't be watching but any excuse will do to get time off.

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 14:19

"Why do they schedule football final so late?"

To maximise broadcasting coverage. That's where most of the revenue comes from.

They could reschedule so that little precious Johnny isn't a teeny bit tired or they could maximise their profits and be thankful that the schools are giving him the option to stay in bed an extra hour in the last week of the school year.

This is so not the big deal it's being made out to be.

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 14:15

"a spirt of togetherness only happens when it’s a thing we care about doesn’t it?"

Minnie. Do you seriously expect every single person to care about the same things? And if they don't then we should all just plod along like miserable sun starved robots instead of having the option to go to school 1 whole fucking hour late?

There is a "spirit of togetherness" 🤢 because a huge number of people care and enjoy the event. Even non football fans get swept up. Even non royalists get swept up. Even non veterans get swept up. It's patriotic and sometimes it's nice just to let yourself relax a bit.

candyisdandybutliquorisquicker · 12/07/2024 14:12

OhmygodDont · 11/07/2024 14:50

I remember one year in primary it was a big football event. The school opened early, it was wear something England and the cooks even came in early to make bacon butties for the whole school to watch the game.

Now logically it would of been because some parents wouldn’t of bothered to bring their children in, but it felt amazing as a child that day watching the football with our buddies with our bacon butties in school.

What a lovely memory for you! I love to see "big" occasions marked, and this is a big deal! Likely once in a lifetime 😉

inlandriverview · 12/07/2024 14:08

They should show the game at 6pm

Or earlier

Or Saturday

And it's not every 4 years. There's the World cup too... England made the final 2 years ago

Matronic6 · 12/07/2024 14:08

PollyPeep · 12/07/2024 13:46

Schools don't allow poor attendance for any other reason. They actually crack down pretty hard. Even being ten minutes late is a big deal. It seems odd to make an exception for something as nonsensical as a football match, but that might be my personal view coming into play 😂

I think some parents are going to make the exception. School may be due Ofsted and might be making choice to maintain their figures anticipating lots of kids will be late regardless.

Also I actually know lots of schools who do give some flexibility when they anticipate the same
I know lots of schools who will allow kids a day off if they return from a residential on Thursday. I also know a school that will register their year 6s the day after SATS without expecting them to be present.

inlandriverview · 12/07/2024 14:05

Why do they schedule football final so late?

Europe is an hour ahead

If it goes to penalties, it wont finish til gone 11

Annoying

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ttcat37 · 12/07/2024 14:03

I’d be annoyed, but I think football is awful and generally has a shit influence on kids

ARichtGoodDram · 12/07/2024 13:58

The school are just protecting stats (which Ofsted could use against them) and also encouraging people to bring their kids to school to hi might otherwise just keep them off all day if they have a late night.

Better to have 50 kids in late than 35 off all day.

Longma · 12/07/2024 13:55

funinthesun19 · 12/07/2024 13:44

My children’s schools will be open all day which I’m glad about because it’s the last week of term and I have loads to do before Friday. Losing a day would be really annoying.

The OP's children's school is also open all day as normal. Parents are just being given a little flexibility in the morning so, if they want to, they can drop off up to an hour later.

It's entirely optional.

You could still get everything you need to do fine before Friday as your children could still go into school at their normal ties!