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Late School Start Monday

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PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 14:40

Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

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NinaPersson · 15/07/2024 20:58

NinaPersson · 15/07/2024 00:25

It does say MENS!! Read it again 😂

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Ooh well spotted. You’re truly one of life’s unsung heroes

NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/07/2024 06:26

Read it again. Then look up 'apostrophes'.

NinaPersson · 15/07/2024 00:25

NeverDropYourMooncup · 13/07/2024 17:45

Don't they mean 'men's football team'? Important learning opportunity there, too.

Although, as I said, it's more a pragmatic attempt to not have next week's attendance data any more abysmal than it will be already.

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It does say MENS!! Read it again 😂

BarryCantSwim · 14/07/2024 20:29

Guessing most people on here are not observant Christians. Should we cancel Easter and Christmas holidays as well as thats ‘not your thing’?

Football isn’t particularly mine either. Nothing like this has been communicated to me from school.

Find it hard to get worked up about tbh and sounds like MN frothing at the mouth over a non-issue.

parkrun500club · 14/07/2024 20:26

PregnantWithHorrors · 12/07/2024 17:28

The issue did arise in 2021, when the England men made the similarly timed final. There were people complaining on here then about schools taking a pragmatic approach, too.

So it's not a one off. But nor is a sensible acknowledgment of reality once in three years at the tail end of term a big deal either. People get overblown about it.

That must have been what I was thinking of, I thought it was the womens' euros in 2022.

Walkden · 14/07/2024 19:13

Some schools issue detentions on the day for kids turning up more than say 10 minutes late in an effort to improve punctuality.

It may be that done schools are recognising that some pupils are going to skip entirely due to being up late ( and those allowing them to ) or that their late detention system may otherwise not cope tomorrow otherwise.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 13/07/2024 17:45

NinaPersson · 13/07/2024 13:56

Some very miserable people on here, just because you’re not football fans doesn’t mean you should wish to deny others fun.

Its a rare event to see the England football team in a final.

This was on the bottom of an email from our school, I was pleased to read this and agree that it’s a good learning opportunity

Don't they mean 'men's football team'? Important learning opportunity there, too.

Although, as I said, it's more a pragmatic attempt to not have next week's attendance data any more abysmal than it will be already.

NinaPersson · 13/07/2024 13:56

Some very miserable people on here, just because you’re not football fans doesn’t mean you should wish to deny others fun.

Its a rare event to see the England football team in a final.

This was on the bottom of an email from our school, I was pleased to read this and agree that it’s a good learning opportunity

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Halfheadhighlights · 13/07/2024 13:46

massive none issue. If you want them in at 9am you can. The difference with school trips getting home late the night before is I doubt this is the whole school

marcopront · 13/07/2024 13:42

Beekeepingmum · 12/07/2024 18:23

So much pandering to the football fans. My kids aren't interested in football. Can they bank a morning off for after a world netball final?

Seeing as the last one was at 5 pm, it wouldn't have been a problem in the same way.

What time is it this year?

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macaroniandcheeze · 13/07/2024 13:07

Spirallingdownwards · 13/07/2024 09:27

Noone anyway on this thread has said it is the most important thing.

You do you. Let others do them. You seem to be unnaturally obsessed with something that isn't important at all in the grand scheme of school or life.

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Society treats it as the most important thing. Schools are validating that.

I am not as unnaturally obsessed as the fans 😂

Longma · 13/07/2024 10:11

CatMumSlave · 12/07/2024 15:10

10pm isn't that late for primary aged kids.

It's 2-3 hours past bedtime for most of ours.
Infact, normally, the majority of our pupils would be in bed by kickoff.
But we also have some huge football fans in our year 2s and there is no way they'd not be watching tomorrow night!

Spirallingdownwards · 13/07/2024 09:27

macaroniandcheeze · 12/07/2024 23:03

Plenty of sports have been played in schools for years. That’s not why it’s popular.

I’m not taking about problems from the 70s I’m talking about modern day problems including overpaid men with over inflated egos treating women terribly and being idolised by young boys and men.

Your private school can let them come in late, you’re paying for that hour whether they come in or not.

Plenty of people on this thread are saying it’s not for the children, it’s for the parents who will be hungover. Yes I am a snob about those parents. Some parents I know were up until the early hours refreshing the election results as they came in, all their children were at school on time next day.

Recently children at our school have been involved in late night orchestra performances and dance shows at theatres, none have been permitted to come in late.

My views are not outdated, the idea that football is the most important thing is outdated, misogynistic and embarrassing. Take your kids to school ffs.

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Noone anyway on this thread has said it is the most important thing.

You do you. Let others do them. You seem to be unnaturally obsessed with something that isn't important at all in the grand scheme of school or life.

macaroniandcheeze · 12/07/2024 23:06

IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 18:10

I find it more interesting.

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And they win more

macaroniandcheeze · 12/07/2024 23:03

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 18:02

It has been universally played in schools for boys for a long time and now more competitively for girls too. That is why it popular and becoming even more so.

I am going to hazard a guess you have either never even been to a match or haven't recently because if you had you would know that nowadays there aren't the issues there may have been in the 70s. It's very much a family event.

Specific kind of parent 🙄 Oh dear! Yes you sound like a snob. We are lawyers and kids have been privately educated (so probably don't fit your stereotype of what you perceive to be a football fan) but even their schools allowed them to watch in school, come in late etc.

Your comment about the election is plain daft. It's not because parents are staying up to 10.45 that they allowed to come in late but because children all over the country will be being allowed to stay up later than usual to watch. Parents that followed the election may also be football fans as shocking as that may be to you.

Do you have an issue when the children at all types of schools are allowed in late after they compete in Young Choices or are choirs an acceptable reason for you and less offensive?

Why not you do you and take your kids in at the usual time and let others do them, enjoy the spectacle and celebrate a win (hopefully) or at least enjoy a shared experience with their school friends. If your child doesn't want to join in or you don't want them to that's fine too. But your outdated views are ridiculous.

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Plenty of sports have been played in schools for years. That’s not why it’s popular.

I’m not taking about problems from the 70s I’m talking about modern day problems including overpaid men with over inflated egos treating women terribly and being idolised by young boys and men.

Your private school can let them come in late, you’re paying for that hour whether they come in or not.

Plenty of people on this thread are saying it’s not for the children, it’s for the parents who will be hungover. Yes I am a snob about those parents. Some parents I know were up until the early hours refreshing the election results as they came in, all their children were at school on time next day.

Recently children at our school have been involved in late night orchestra performances and dance shows at theatres, none have been permitted to come in late.

My views are not outdated, the idea that football is the most important thing is outdated, misogynistic and embarrassing. Take your kids to school ffs.

DinnaeFashYersel · 12/07/2024 22:38

What a bunch of absolute misery guts.

😳

ElaineMBenes · 12/07/2024 22:24

Not really ,whether you like it or not ,there just isn't the same level of interest or revenue in women's football.

They doesn't detract from the fact they won the euros in 2022 🤷🏼‍♀️

In our house we're just as interested in the lionesses as we are the men's team.

ItsAlrightDarling · 12/07/2024 19:05

Beekeepingmum · 12/07/2024 18:23

So much pandering to the football fans. My kids aren't interested in football. Can they bank a morning off for after a world netball final?

Well I’m sure they can, you’re not going to get into trouble for one late morning.

Auburngal · 12/07/2024 19:04

This is the first final that England (men’s and women’s) have played on foreign soil.

The others have been played in Wembley

x2boys · 12/07/2024 19:03

ElaineMBenes · 12/07/2024 17:47

How often does England get to the final of an international tournament? Not often. We haven't one won in my lifetime. It really is a one off.

I seem to remember England winning the Euros back in 2022......

Or does women's football not count?

Not really ,wether you like it or not ,there just isn't the same level of interest or revenue in women's football.

PregnantWithHorrors · 12/07/2024 18:28

Beekeepingmum · 12/07/2024 18:23

So much pandering to the football fans. My kids aren't interested in football. Can they bank a morning off for after a world netball final?

Probably, yeah. I doubt there'll be any consequences if you bring them in late one morning because of it.

Beekeepingmum · 12/07/2024 18:23

So much pandering to the football fans. My kids aren't interested in football. Can they bank a morning off for after a world netball final?

PregnantWithHorrors · 12/07/2024 18:14

I love women's football. But some of the things I love about it are the things that are in the men's game since it became so money soaked. The dives are starting to creep in more, sadly.

IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 18:10

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 18:04

It is not the same level of football as the men's game yet. Hopefully the rise in its popularity will mean it will be one day and great strides are being made.

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I find it more interesting.

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2024 18:04

ElaineMBenes · 12/07/2024 17:47

How often does England get to the final of an international tournament? Not often. We haven't one won in my lifetime. It really is a one off.

I seem to remember England winning the Euros back in 2022......

Or does women's football not count?

It is not the same level of football as the men's game yet. Hopefully the rise in its popularity will mean it will be one day and great strides are being made.