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AIBU: Needs Subtitles vs Hates Subtitles

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tvdilemma · 11/07/2024 11:38

We have a bit of a battle going on in our household, it has been ongoing for years but has come to the forefront over the last few weeks.

My DP and I live with my DD (early 20s). DD is diagnosed autistic with ADHD and sensory processing disorder, and finds that with most television she needs subtitles to understand what’s happening. We watch telly all together in the evenings, always have done. While DP and DD have never gotten along spectacularly well, things have always muddled along just fine, at least on this particular issue.

Lately, DP has taken to complaining when DD asks for the subtitles to be turned on. Not every time, because that would be several times a night, but at least once or twice a week. He moaned about us having them on the other night when he wasn’t even watching the same show, he was heading to the other room to watch the football! It really came to a head when the other day, DD asked to turn the subtitles on and he stormed out of the room. I’ve also found out that on the other telly, DD’s TV in the spare room, he keeps changing the settings back to default as that is the one room in which she has the subtitles automatically turned on. Neither of us would mind as long as he switched them back afterwards, as she uses that room far more than he does, but he doesn’t bother. I usually go and switch them back on afterwards. For reference, I’m totally neutral on subtitles- I don’t mind and even sometimes quite like having them on, but I’d never think to turn them on myself.

I really want to talk to DP about it, but I know he’s going to say that I always prioritise DD over him. I do my best to make sure we all watch what we want to, and DD tries her best not to impose by asking for subtitles on things she knows DP likes more than she does. I know he’ll say he can’t help it and that he finds them annoying and distracting, but I don’t know if that overrules my DD’s sensory disability. My instinct says that my DD’s need wins out, but then I wonder if perhaps I am prioritising DD without even realising it?

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Sharptonguedwoman · 23/07/2024 11:26

tvdilemma · 11/07/2024 11:38

We have a bit of a battle going on in our household, it has been ongoing for years but has come to the forefront over the last few weeks.

My DP and I live with my DD (early 20s). DD is diagnosed autistic with ADHD and sensory processing disorder, and finds that with most television she needs subtitles to understand what’s happening. We watch telly all together in the evenings, always have done. While DP and DD have never gotten along spectacularly well, things have always muddled along just fine, at least on this particular issue.

Lately, DP has taken to complaining when DD asks for the subtitles to be turned on. Not every time, because that would be several times a night, but at least once or twice a week. He moaned about us having them on the other night when he wasn’t even watching the same show, he was heading to the other room to watch the football! It really came to a head when the other day, DD asked to turn the subtitles on and he stormed out of the room. I’ve also found out that on the other telly, DD’s TV in the spare room, he keeps changing the settings back to default as that is the one room in which she has the subtitles automatically turned on. Neither of us would mind as long as he switched them back afterwards, as she uses that room far more than he does, but he doesn’t bother. I usually go and switch them back on afterwards. For reference, I’m totally neutral on subtitles- I don’t mind and even sometimes quite like having them on, but I’d never think to turn them on myself.

I really want to talk to DP about it, but I know he’s going to say that I always prioritise DD over him. I do my best to make sure we all watch what we want to, and DD tries her best not to impose by asking for subtitles on things she knows DP likes more than she does. I know he’ll say he can’t help it and that he finds them annoying and distracting, but I don’t know if that overrules my DD’s sensory disability. My instinct says that my DD’s need wins out, but then I wonder if perhaps I am prioritising DD without even realising it?

I'm a subtitle user, all the time as I have hearing loss. My family don't mind and sometimes find them helpful. I turn them off when DP is watching sport because then they are a nuisance. The subtitles go over the score or over the game.
Can your DP watch sport on the other TV? Can your DC watch on a computer with headphones?

DoNotScrapeMyDataBishes · 23/07/2024 11:12

I usually have the subtitles on if it's something I'm actually watching (versus background noise). I just find it helps me when TV has got so bloody in your face with loud bits and then mumbling (I'm also autistic). Also means I don't miss huge chunks over DH and DD1 wittering on.

I turn them on, DH turns them off, the kids laugh at us fighting over it on the main telly (but DH forgets how to turn them off so I win at times). I'd go nuts if he fiddled with the setting on my TV in my office though which always has them on - that's MY space and MY rules.

LordSnot · 23/07/2024 08:45

CosyLemur · 21/07/2024 11:46

He moaned about having them on in the room he was in before going into another room to watch the football! So yeah he was in the same room when he was moaning!

You've been asked a few times - can you please give the name of this condition?

MonsteraMama · 21/07/2024 11:50

CosyLemur · 21/07/2024 11:46

He moaned about having them on in the room he was in before going into another room to watch the football! So yeah he was in the same room when he was moaning!

That's not what it says but ok.

CosyLemur · 21/07/2024 11:46

MonsteraMama · 21/07/2024 11:33

It's literally in the OP.

"He moaned about us having them on the other night when he wasn’t even watching the same show, he was heading to the other room to watch the football!"

He moaned about having them on in the room he was in before going into another room to watch the football! So yeah he was in the same room when he was moaning!

MonsteraMama · 21/07/2024 11:33

CosyLemur · 21/07/2024 11:22

It doesn't affect him from a different room though does it? He turns them off on the daughter's TV when he's watching that TV! He couldn't follow the programme so grumbled and went into a different room!

It's literally in the OP.

"He moaned about us having them on the other night when he wasn’t even watching the same show, he was heading to the other room to watch the football!"

CosyLemur · 21/07/2024 11:26

Megifer · 15/07/2024 12:09

And an odd one if it only affects him sometimes.

I'd also like to know the name of this actual condition, it sounds really interesting, I'd love to read the studies about it.

It probably doesn't only affect him sometimes but it will affect him sometimes more than others.
When watching live TV with subtitles on they're usually 10+ seconds behind what is actually being heard, so will have more of an affect. Equally something where you need to watch what's on screen to me and to follow - game shows etc he will find it harder.
Things like soaps they won't be affected as much because you don't miss too much if your eyes are drawn away from the action.
As for her daughter maybe watching the TV without also being on her phone etc once in a while would also help.

It's called compromise!

CosyLemur · 21/07/2024 11:22

MonsteraMama · 15/07/2024 11:46

Wow, it must be a pretty serious condition if it even effects him from a different room when he's watching something else? What's it called?

It doesn't affect him from a different room though does it? He turns them off on the daughter's TV when he's watching that TV! He couldn't follow the programme so grumbled and went into a different room!

Lavenderblume · 16/07/2024 10:07

I have a theory that in general, men are more likely to dislike subtitles. I would love to find out if this is actually true. My hypothesis is that they are more easily distracted or perhaps slower readers...

30yearoldvirgin · 16/07/2024 07:03

tvdilemma · 11/07/2024 11:38

We have a bit of a battle going on in our household, it has been ongoing for years but has come to the forefront over the last few weeks.

My DP and I live with my DD (early 20s). DD is diagnosed autistic with ADHD and sensory processing disorder, and finds that with most television she needs subtitles to understand what’s happening. We watch telly all together in the evenings, always have done. While DP and DD have never gotten along spectacularly well, things have always muddled along just fine, at least on this particular issue.

Lately, DP has taken to complaining when DD asks for the subtitles to be turned on. Not every time, because that would be several times a night, but at least once or twice a week. He moaned about us having them on the other night when he wasn’t even watching the same show, he was heading to the other room to watch the football! It really came to a head when the other day, DD asked to turn the subtitles on and he stormed out of the room. I’ve also found out that on the other telly, DD’s TV in the spare room, he keeps changing the settings back to default as that is the one room in which she has the subtitles automatically turned on. Neither of us would mind as long as he switched them back afterwards, as she uses that room far more than he does, but he doesn’t bother. I usually go and switch them back on afterwards. For reference, I’m totally neutral on subtitles- I don’t mind and even sometimes quite like having them on, but I’d never think to turn them on myself.

I really want to talk to DP about it, but I know he’s going to say that I always prioritise DD over him. I do my best to make sure we all watch what we want to, and DD tries her best not to impose by asking for subtitles on things she knows DP likes more than she does. I know he’ll say he can’t help it and that he finds them annoying and distracting, but I don’t know if that overrules my DD’s sensory disability. My instinct says that my DD’s need wins out, but then I wonder if perhaps I am prioritising DD without even realising it?

Is he 4 years old, or just a selfish wa*r?

SauvignonBlanche · 15/07/2024 21:38

What a miserable, petty cunt - your poor DD 😥

Greenfield2 · 15/07/2024 21:31

HappierTimesAhead · 11/07/2024 11:40

Your DP sounds like an utter wanker. This is a reasonable adjustment for your DD's disability and one that really has little impact on him.

This!

MrsB74 · 15/07/2024 16:09

I understand that subtitles are sometimes annoying, but if someone in your household needs them then you just have to put up with them. My DH needs them as his hearing is really bad now - even with his aids in he struggles with the tv. I hardly notice the subtitles now and don’t always turn them off if he is out/not watching. Your DP sounds mean and selfish. Why wouldn’t your daughter be your top priority for goodness’ sake?

ErrolTheDragon · 15/07/2024 13:00

Wow, it must be a pretty serious condition if it even affects him from a different room when he's watching something else? What's it called?

Being a controlling dickhead? Yeah, that's a known condition that spoils everyone's enjoyment.

MrsSlocombesCat · 15/07/2024 12:57

I have ASD as does my son. He doesn't watch much TV but I do and always have subtitles on. It's because our processing is a bit more complex, I don't have hearing problems but the processing of context sometimes impedes what I have perceived in the language. I literally won't watch anything that doesn't have subtitles available.I'm guessing your DD is the same. He's being completely unreasonable and selfish. You need to make it clear that you won't be compromising on this.

Megifer · 15/07/2024 12:09

MonsteraMama · 15/07/2024 11:46

Wow, it must be a pretty serious condition if it even effects him from a different room when he's watching something else? What's it called?

And an odd one if it only affects him sometimes.

I'd also like to know the name of this actual condition, it sounds really interesting, I'd love to read the studies about it.

Harry12345 · 15/07/2024 12:07

What a dick

MonsteraMama · 15/07/2024 11:46

CosyLemur · 15/07/2024 07:43

But that's exactly what they're doing to him by having the subtitles on. There's a known condition that some people have which means that they can't see or concentrate on what's happening on screen as their eyes are drawn to the words! For some it even blocks out being able to concentrate on the sounds on the TV
Regardless of the volume that the TV is on he's not going to be able to enjoy watching anything!

Wow, it must be a pretty serious condition if it even effects him from a different room when he's watching something else? What's it called?

UserNumber56 · 15/07/2024 11:43

What a selfish attitude on the part of your partner!

If he wants to throw a tantrum about this, then I would suggest that you watch TV in separate rooms.

Clairetwinkletoes · 15/07/2024 10:33

I’m sorry but does he even understand her needs? Personally I struggle with subtitles as I find they distract me BUT I would put that to one side if a family member needed them! Changing them back on her tv sounds vindictive and borderline abusive…

BlankTimes · 15/07/2024 10:00

What an ( insert expletives of choice) that man is.

Your DD NEEDS the subtitles to understand what she is watching.

Your partner doesn't like that and even interferes with switching them off on her own TV in her room.

If you don't eject him from the household, and I strongly recommend that you should, then by the remotest of chances he has the unnamed subtitle-intolerant condition mentioned upthread, he should go and buy his own TV set, tablet or whatever with headphones and watch what he wants to on that so he does not deny and belittle your daughter's NEEDS to help with her understanding.

How would he like it if you explained everything that was going on on-screen for her, the constant conversation would no doubt irritate him and he would have to put the subtitles on himself as he wouldn't be able to hear above your very necessary descriptions of the plot and characters' actions.

My DD has the same need for subtitles and they are ON permanently on our only telly. IIRC from many assessments years ago, it's a common audio processing deficit and would be considered a reasonable adjustment if required at work.

Please throw him out OP. He should not be going into her room at all, let alone interfering in there. His wants do not take priority over her needs.

pizzaHeart · 15/07/2024 09:00

It’s telling OP that you didn’t come back to the thread. It’s not about subtitles at all.
Yes, you have to prioritize your DD all the time, she is your child and she had disability so she can’t cope without your help and support.
Why did you even ask? She needs subtitles. How would you feel if you needed to wear glasses and someone would regularly take them off you?
This man is not a good man, even if your Dd will move out soon, this man is still selfish twat and I bet he is not nice partner to you either.

ThePoetsWife · 15/07/2024 08:44

Nasty ableism wanker

TheQueenWhoNeverWas · 15/07/2024 08:37

DH and I are in the same situation, but he's not a dick.

However I would say (one day too late) that football is the place to compromise, because the subtitles are often in really unhelpful places, because the commentary is an optional extra to the play, and because the live AI transcription is very unreliable. I wouldn't dream of having subtitles on for the football.

DottyLottieLou · 15/07/2024 08:29

CosyLemur · 15/07/2024 07:43

But that's exactly what they're doing to him by having the subtitles on. There's a known condition that some people have which means that they can't see or concentrate on what's happening on screen as their eyes are drawn to the words! For some it even blocks out being able to concentrate on the sounds on the TV
Regardless of the volume that the TV is on he's not going to be able to enjoy watching anything!

Even when he's watching something in a different room. He's a dick.