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MIL said I'm selfish with the baby

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cj2796 · 11/07/2024 09:08

NC for this.

I’ve just returned to work after a years maternity leave. I’ve condensed my days down to 4, to allow me a day to spend quality time with my baby while she’s still little. I have older children so weekends are manic with their activities.

My DP works away most of the time so 99% of the day to day stuff for LO, nursery drop offs/collections etc fall to me. It’s been hard returning to work and managing all this on my own.. anyway…

My MIL works part time and has the same day off in the week as I do. She’s asked to have LO every week on this day.

I have thanked her very kindly for offering, but explained that I have condensed my days to have that particular day off to spend with LO. I did say that if she likes she could have baby once a month on that day?

This went ignored and I’ve been told now by DP that I’ve upset MIL and that she thinks I am being “selfish with the baby”.

Incase it is relevant they live almost 2 hours away so it’s not exactly close either. I try and make time for them as much as possible, it’s a couple of times a month. I often meet them halfway even if my DP isn’t available.

My DP says my MIL just really loves baby and wants to help. But I’ve explained what would be helpful/work for us and it’s gone ignored and now I’ve upset her?

DP had suggested I move my days around at work or drop a day at nursery/change days to allow MIL to have LO weekly on this particular day. I’ve explained to him that with the nursery contract I’ve signed, if I drop a day we are liable to lose our place as they reserve the right to do this (if someone wants full time or 4 days it would taken precedence, it’s only a small nursery). I had to put her name down when she was born as places are few and far between round here!

My MIL has also said that if DP and I were to split up I would have to relinquish time with LO and “get used to it”. We have previously been on the rocks but have been trying to work things out, so I’ve found this a bit hurtful.

If we were to split up and needed to come to arrangements between us surely that wouldn’t include his parents? Wouldn’t it be both our working schedules considered plus little ones schedule and what is best for her? I don’t see it being fair that I would be doing the bulk of running around and then on my days off I don’t get to have my little one? And if my DP wanted to give baby to his parents on his days that would be his choice?

I just need help with how to word a response without falling out with anyone. Or am I wrong?

My friend said her MIL became obsessed with needing “alone time” with her baby, and it caused a big falling out. Which I really don’t want the same!

Thanks

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Toddlerteaplease · 11/07/2024 15:46

She's had her turn and child rearing. Now it's yours.

DanielGault · 11/07/2024 15:43

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:31

@IdLikeToBeAFraser this is what I sent which is very similar. Which has caused her to ignore me and tell my DP I am a selfish so and so keeping the baby from her.

"That’s lovely of you to want to have x and so kind of you to offer. However that day is my day off with x, I arranged my working hours to have that day with her while she’s little and spend quality time with her. Her days in nursery are so long and with my commute and working hours, I hardly get to see her. I’m sure you remember what it was like when yours were little. I’m sure we can organise something though. Maybe you can have her one Friday a month? It’s very kind of you to offer to help x"

You're explaining yourself far too much there. When you do that you invite a rebuttal.

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:33

Hankunamatata · 11/07/2024 15:28

Sensible solution would be for mil to change her day off. Spend the day in yours and dp house with baby BUT I'd hate mil in my house so nope lol

I really don't want her in my house but I would if it kept the peace

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cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:32

Funny thing is when I first returned to work my LO was very ill (catch everything at nursery don't they!).

So I was back at work a few days and had to take time off... no one was falling over themselves to help me then!

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cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:31

@IdLikeToBeAFraser this is what I sent which is very similar. Which has caused her to ignore me and tell my DP I am a selfish so and so keeping the baby from her.

"That’s lovely of you to want to have x and so kind of you to offer. However that day is my day off with x, I arranged my working hours to have that day with her while she’s little and spend quality time with her. Her days in nursery are so long and with my commute and working hours, I hardly get to see her. I’m sure you remember what it was like when yours were little. I’m sure we can organise something though. Maybe you can have her one Friday a month? It’s very kind of you to offer to help x"

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VJBR · 11/07/2024 15:28

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:26

My DP is actually keen to in future relocate to "his" area...

But I know deep down I absolutely will not be doing this.

Absolutely never do that. Living so far away is your trump card in the event that you split. When your daughter is at school that will be the priority. He would maybe get every other weekend or the holidays when the distance is taken into consideration. Nobody wants a child to travel 4 hours a day to and from school.

DanielGault · 11/07/2024 15:28

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:20

If she wanted to occasionally come over and take LO out of nursery for the day/afternoon, I wouldn't be opposed to that. My DP will be taking LO out of nursery so he can spend time with her if his days home fall on her nursery days.

It's not that I want to keep my child from MIL, it's just that what she's proposing doesn't work for me (or baby) at all.

I can't see me ever being okay with weekly overnights with the grandparents that are just unnecessary and not required... they can spend time with her in other ways.

If me and DP split up and I'm as a result forced to be away from her overnight while he has his time with her, well that's another matter, and it won't be a choice for me then.

I think the problem Vis that her attitude is so dictatorial and proprietorial towards your DD. So while it would be lovely to have the easy give and take relationship with her, I'm not so sure she'll meet you half way there. And your drippy DP seems to be of little use to you in terms of back up

Hankunamatata · 11/07/2024 15:28

Sensible solution would be for mil to change her day off. Spend the day in yours and dp house with baby BUT I'd hate mil in my house so nope lol

Triffid1 · 11/07/2024 15:27

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:26

My DP is actually keen to in future relocate to "his" area...

But I know deep down I absolutely will not be doing this.

Well you can't, can you? You have older children who are happily and successfully spending 50% of their time with their father. How on earth can you now move 2 hours away?

I really hope this is just the same sort of vague longing that I had for years to return to my home country - I knew it wasn't going to happen, it was a small but noticeable sore in my heart, but it wasn't practical and I always knew that.

RobinStrike · 11/07/2024 15:27

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:20

If she wanted to occasionally come over and take LO out of nursery for the day/afternoon, I wouldn't be opposed to that. My DP will be taking LO out of nursery so he can spend time with her if his days home fall on her nursery days.

It's not that I want to keep my child from MIL, it's just that what she's proposing doesn't work for me (or baby) at all.

I can't see me ever being okay with weekly overnights with the grandparents that are just unnecessary and not required... they can spend time with her in other ways.

If me and DP split up and I'm as a result forced to be away from her overnight while he has his time with her, well that's another matter, and it won't be a choice for me then.

Tell MIL and DP this. She is welcome to make time to take DD out of nursery but not at the expense of your time with your daughter. Your DP could also arrange for his mother to visit on the days he is off work and looking after DD. The three of them could have time together. Her insistence on alone time and at her own home don’t work at all.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 11/07/2024 15:26

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:20

If she wanted to occasionally come over and take LO out of nursery for the day/afternoon, I wouldn't be opposed to that. My DP will be taking LO out of nursery so he can spend time with her if his days home fall on her nursery days.

It's not that I want to keep my child from MIL, it's just that what she's proposing doesn't work for me (or baby) at all.

I can't see me ever being okay with weekly overnights with the grandparents that are just unnecessary and not required... they can spend time with her in other ways.

If me and DP split up and I'm as a result forced to be away from her overnight while he has his time with her, well that's another matter, and it won't be a choice for me then.

Brilliant. Here's the wording I'd use,

"It doesn't make sense for the baby to be going to MIL every week. For a start, I've put a lot of effort into making it so that I can have that day with her and her siblings (when they're home) and it's really important to me to have that time. At a practical level, on my one day off I simply can't be spending up to 4 hours in the car, and it's not good for the baby either. I think it's lovely that MIL wants time with her so I'm happy to make this effort once a month for her and, if she can work it with her schedule, she's welcome to come down and take baby out of nursery now and again and spend some time with her here. I'm sure they'd both love that. I think it's lovely that MIL wants this relationship with Baby, but it has to work for from a logistics and practical perspective."

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:26

My DP is actually keen to in future relocate to "his" area...

But I know deep down I absolutely will not be doing this.

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cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:24

peopleare · 11/07/2024 15:21

And if my DP wanted to give baby to his parents on his days that would be his choice?

Yes it would, I have a friend whose Ex H went for 50/50 so he would not have to pay maintenance. His parents do the bulk of looking after the kids on his contact days due to his working hours.

Yes I totally understand this. If he has 50/50 or whatever else and hands LO over to his parents, or a new gf, or whoever he likes on his time I can't do a thing about it.

Get that.

But I don't see how they can facilitate that living so far away. If they have to bring DD to school or nursery is it fair to DD to spend hours in the car half the week?

If this were to happen I can say with absolute certainty his parents would never relocate to my area.

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peopleare · 11/07/2024 15:21

And if my DP wanted to give baby to his parents on his days that would be his choice?

Yes it would, I have a friend whose Ex H went for 50/50 so he would not have to pay maintenance. His parents do the bulk of looking after the kids on his contact days due to his working hours.

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 15:20

If she wanted to occasionally come over and take LO out of nursery for the day/afternoon, I wouldn't be opposed to that. My DP will be taking LO out of nursery so he can spend time with her if his days home fall on her nursery days.

It's not that I want to keep my child from MIL, it's just that what she's proposing doesn't work for me (or baby) at all.

I can't see me ever being okay with weekly overnights with the grandparents that are just unnecessary and not required... they can spend time with her in other ways.

If me and DP split up and I'm as a result forced to be away from her overnight while he has his time with her, well that's another matter, and it won't be a choice for me then.

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godmum56 · 11/07/2024 15:18

I'd be quite careful too...basically the more grabby she gets, the more wary I'd get.

Beccaboo0979 · 11/07/2024 15:11

If shexwants time with with LO its up to her to travel to you bot the other way around, you shouldn't be bending over backwards to make her happy when she obviously doesn't give a hoot about your happiness.

ChilledMama85 · 11/07/2024 15:07

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 11:08

To be completely honest I am happy with the arrangements I have got.

I feel secure in that my child is in a nursery in a suitable location, I can get myself to work, collect her. No stress.

I've got my day off set up. Everything works well for me!

I'm more than happy to have a normal grandparents relationship for my child. I take her to see them. My MIL is welcome to do the odd day of childcare on an ad-hoc basis. Maybe in future the occasional sleepover even.

They are welcome to come here and visit if they want. If MIL has the same day off she'd be more than welcome to join myself and baby at toddler group, or soft play or whatever I decide to do that day on occasion.

I don't get why I'm being guilted and called selfish and I don't want to massively put myself out, change my arrangements that work for my family, and my baby, cause myself extra stress, just so my MIL can have "alone time" every week with MY child?!?

My DP is insisting that they just want to help...

if I was you I'd distance myself from MIL , you're busy after all, meet some lovely moms during toddlers group, go for a coffee after the session & dont invest your time pleasing MIL only to be criticised.

And if DH wants, he can please his mom during his free time.

thatstakingalongtimetoboil · 11/07/2024 15:07

Can she change her day off then and that one day you don't need nursery

VivaciousRadish · 11/07/2024 15:06

I’m a first time grandmother to a gorgeous 4 month old baby. I see him a lot with his mum (my daughter) including most of Sunday because her partner works all day. They only live a five minute drive away

Ive looked after him alone a couple of times, just for a few hours while they were moving house. Tonight we’ve got him for the whole night (4pm until 11.30am) and I’m terrified. Obviously we’ve brought up children of our own but it was a long time ago, and by the end of Sundays I’m exhausted! And that’s with my daughter (his mum) there.

Young children and babies are a LOT of work. I don’t get this need to look after your grand daughter on her own. Surely much nicer to spend time with you too, going for a nice walk or to a play cafe or something (not for you maybe).

I think PP is right and she’s trying to establish some kind of rights over your daughter. I don’t like the sound of it at all

I think you need to be firm, and not care what anyone else thinks. You’re doing a great job

Superduper02 · 11/07/2024 15:06

Aquamarine1029 · 11/07/2024 09:15

I just need help with how to word a response without falling out with anyone.

Your silence is the best response possible. Your partner and your mother-in-law are both totally ridiculous.

I came to say this. Say nothing. Let the crazy people i this scenario self-assess and work it out between themselves.

RobinStrike · 11/07/2024 15:04

I think there are two good ideas. First one is @stayathomer ’s suggestion that she is welcome to come across and spend time with you and DD at toddler group etc. And @telestrations suggestion that on occasional days she could take DD out of nursery for a treat afternoon-but again, locally. She could either spend the time at your house of find something special to do nearby, but absolutely no long car journeys. In that way you are offering MIL time with her DGD but on your terms and in a way that would benefit your DD, and allow them both to enjoy the time together. Long journeys to and from her house sound ridiculous.

ThatGutsyHedgehog · 11/07/2024 15:04

cj2796 · 11/07/2024 09:50

She has also been buying baby things for her house and telling me about it, like a highchair and travel cot. She said she'd like to have LO overnight.

I've been very polite and just said oh yes that would be nice in future when she's bigger.

I'm still breastfeeding too (I pump at work which is exhausting).

It's not that I don't want them to watch LO at all.

A "normal" grandparent relationship to me which is the one that I had growing up and that most people I know seem to have is, not the grandparents having the baby for "alone time" every week and sleepovers.

The grandparents occasionally babysit, maybe the odd overnight (might be nice in future for DP and I)! Other than that it's family visits, like we take her to visit them or they come here, is that not normal?

Because I usually meet them halfway, my LO has only been to their house a few times!

Yep I agree that’s a normal grandparent relationship and one I had growing up!

I have this with my MIL who asked for alone time for my 8 week old EBF baby!

I think it’s about playing mummy again without the inconvinece of really mummy being there!

It’s certainly not in your daughters best interest or yours it’s about meeting her needs and that’s not a good enough reason I’m afraid.

I would just tell DH no for all the very valid reasons you gave and leave him to deal with them. I also wouldn’t appease with a once a month alone time unless it’s what you want - she’s had her chance to parent this is your turn and you don’t want regrets!

VJBR · 11/07/2024 15:04

Absolutely don’t give in to your mother in law. It is not her baby. Sign up for a baby class/baby swimming/tots group on your day off and then it is impossible even for one day a month.

MaMaMalenka · 11/07/2024 15:02

Your MIL is so cheeky! As a very involved MIL I can tell you, what she is doing is not about helping you! My DIL works shifts and I go over once or twice a week to help - and help means: taking the gc to and from school/nursery school, sorting the laundry and dishwasher and doing some light cooking! I do it all with permission from my lovely DS and DIL - it gives me so much pleasure to know that I've made their hectic life a bit easier! The children love having me in their own environment and over the years we have built such a wonderful bond. I wait for my SIL or DIL to return from work, sometimes have a cup of tea with them, and then leave them to spend precious time with the children. (we also have a joint meal together almost every week). This is what my mother did when my dc were little. It's a win-win situation. How can schlepping a toddler/baby for 4 hours once a week in a car be any help to you, let alone good for the baby? Your DP should stop and think...