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Friends with money

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the7Vabo · 11/07/2024 07:48

Posting here for other opinions rather than AIBU if that’s allowed.

Per the title most of our friends have a lot of money and some have serious amounts of money.

My DC are pretty young but recently we went on holidays with friends who have serious money and they rented an amazing mansion and we rented a perfect nice typical holiday home. Five nights in our house cost less than one in theirs to give you an idea of scale.

My DS(6) who never appeared to notice the disparity before has announced (firmly) that he wants to get their house next time we go.

I sense this will be the start of many conversions on the topic.

I tried explaining that money isn’t really what matters in life but that went very much over his head.

We live a nice comfortable but nothing remarkable life. But he has a lovely school, nice room, nice area to play in. He also had a bustling social life - weekends of hobbies and seeing friends for coffees.

I don’t expect a child to be grateful every day of his life but I’d like to raise a child who doesn’t worship money (which at the moment he does!)

I also don’t want him to feel upset or hard done by or that he needs certain material things for his sense of self esteem. It upsets me somewhat thinking about this because even though I didn’t grow up in poverty, I remember the feeling of not having things that other people had and it made be feel like they were better than me. But at the same time now I’m an adult I obviously disagree with that logic! I also get a bit annoyed at him for wanting things when I know it’s normal for a kid.

I have thought of showing him dire poverty but that seems OTT for his age and as bad as it’s sounds I felt there were so many similar charity ads when I was growing up with pictures of babies in Africa I barley registered them.

Any advice on how to approach conversations.

OP posts:
5128gap · 17/07/2024 12:45

Broaden your social circle to include other people from other backgrounds. If you raise your children in a bubble of affluence where you are at the lowest level, you're going to encounter this time and again. Branch out so your child can meet fun happy people who are living good lives without serious or lots of money.

FateReset · 17/07/2024 12:44

I think as parents we are responsible for teaching gratefulness, for shaping their character. Have you explained why envy is fruitless and self destructive? Do you model this attitude? Or are you and/or DH also commenting on how nice/luxurious/OTT the other house is, does he overhear you wishing you were wealthier?

I'd tell him the other house is lovely, agree it would be great to holiday there. Don't say you don't have enough money or they're silly to splash out, say something neutral but honest eg you think it's a bit bigger than you need, maybe you'll get somewhere like that if you go away in a big family group or with friends?

stayathomer · 17/07/2024 12:39

My 9 yea old loves going to a friends’ house because he has a ds instead of an x box and they always get a certain type of crisps. When I say well s ask him over and get those crisps he says he doesn’t like them at home as much so it’s something we’ll never win!! I’d honestly not get too worried about it, I’d frame it more in a ‘everyone has different homes and holidays’ so he doesn’t get into the ‘they’re so rich’ thing

Maria1979 · 17/07/2024 12:34

celadora · 17/07/2024 06:15

It’s funny how all these parents worried about ‘diversity’ still put their kids in private school.

Other kids are not there to round out private school kids.

We have to put him in private so he's not with his older brother who's in the public. No other option.

thunderandtroughs · 17/07/2024 09:16

Our son's best mate since the cradle was the "rich kid," and our son spent loads of time with his family (and vice versa). There was the occasional moan such as "why don't we have a holiday house in Norfolk," but it was easy enough to explain that different families can have different amounts of money available for this stuff.

MadameMassiveSalad · 17/07/2024 08:27

Meh. There's always going to be someone with more than you and some with less 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm more worried about your 6yr old drinking coffee tbh!

Thedayb4youcame · 17/07/2024 08:24

MiddleParking · 17/07/2024 06:46

Would you not be worried they’d repeat that to the friends?!

That would be the risk / trade off of having to tell it like it is. A choice between making your children happier through understanding, or not allowing them the understanding as it risks upsetting the others if repeated out of context.

My mother wouldn't have given the latter a second thought, if she knew what she was telling us was true.

Sillystrumpet · 17/07/2024 08:16

Hmm1234 · 17/07/2024 08:07

People saying he won’t understand at 6 are absolutely clueless. My three year old notices disparities between his nursery friends and our household and often makes comments. ‘X has this and a X’ Sorry but I can’t give you any advice these conversations are hard

I’m not really sure why you lashed out. As you’ve just said the same as everyone else. Yes children notice things but they are not money obsessed or hungry. There is a difference.

Hmm1234 · 17/07/2024 08:07

People saying he won’t understand at 6 are absolutely clueless. My three year old notices disparities between his nursery friends and our household and often makes comments. ‘X has this and a X’ Sorry but I can’t give you any advice these conversations are hard

Dreaddy · 17/07/2024 06:46

Also my parents were never that good at guiding me re money/career etc when I was a teen. They always told me money doesn't matter. I wish they didn't. Money does matter when you don't have enough!

MiddleParking · 17/07/2024 06:46

saraclara · 16/07/2024 20:45

My closest mum friends had money. Horses and a lovely houses, trips to US Disney (back in the very early 90s), private schools. Their DH's were away from home a lot though (or even if in the country, didn't get home from London until after the kids bedtimes). In one case the kids' school was a half hour drive away from home, and my friend bemoaned that her children had no local friends to have playdates with.

I only recall my two commenting once, but I said that their friends probably wished that they had daddys like theirs, who had time to play with them and read them bedtime stories. And mentioned the boys who didn't have friends outside school to play with like they did.

Everyone's lives are different, and though not everyone can find pluses to their rich friends' minuses, if they're there, it's worth pointing them out to your kids.

Would you not be worried they’d repeat that to the friends?!

Dreaddy · 17/07/2024 06:44

I might feel the same if I came to your house OP. It's all relative.

MissedItByThisMuch · 17/07/2024 06:39

celadora · 17/07/2024 06:14

How did your context help OP? Not having a go, genuinely confused.

You’re “genuinely confused” (🙄 such a passive-aggressive phrase) how my answering the OP’s concern by describing my experience from the opposite side of my kids not noticing material discrepancies might help OP not worry?? I’m “genuinely confused” about why that’s hard to understand.

NB I’m not really confused, I’m perfectly well aware that it was a passive-aggressive dig at me.

DreamTheMoors · 17/07/2024 06:30

Your son is so little. Of course he likes the fancy place. Everybody likes the fancy place.
I think I was in my twenties before I figured out that there would always be someone more wealthy, more successful, more powerful, more intelligent, more beautiful, and more lucky than I was.
I might’ve been a slow learner, but you know what? It took an enormous amount of pressure off me because I was sooo far from being the richest, most beautiful intelligent girl. lol

celadora · 17/07/2024 06:15

Maria1979 · 17/07/2024 05:15

My DS 11 has friends who lives in council estates AND friends with big houses with pool etc. Well, he wanted us to move to the council estate because all those kids have friends nearby and can just pop over to see them😀..

I am quite worried at the lack of diversity in secondary though as he will go from public to private...

It’s funny how all these parents worried about ‘diversity’ still put their kids in private school.

Other kids are not there to round out private school kids.

celadora · 17/07/2024 06:14

MissedItByThisMuch · 15/07/2024 06:56

Seriously?? You think I need to “brag” (hardly stealthily if you want to read it as bragging) on an anonymous online forum where no one has a clue who I am?? WTF would be the point?? I was giving enough context to answer the OP’s post.

How did your context help OP? Not having a go, genuinely confused.

5475878237NC · 17/07/2024 05:29

bigmammycool · 15/07/2024 09:51

Why is a 6 year old meeting friends for coffees

That was my first thought too.

I think it's good to introduce power and privilege in age appropriate ways as children grow but at six I'd focus on conversations about his values and process and never mention material possessions or outcomes. The aim being to nurture a strong sense of being good enough as I am and not needing to strive to be or have anything external to make me feel OK.

Maria1979 · 17/07/2024 05:18

My Bil is filthy rich and his family always go on wild holidays like safari or Japan or whatever. I've tried to explain to my DS that we just can't afford more than a week away in Greece per year because we just don't have that kind of money. He told me maybe I should try to get it from the bank😁🙃..

Maria1979 · 17/07/2024 05:15

My DS 11 has friends who lives in council estates AND friends with big houses with pool etc. Well, he wanted us to move to the council estate because all those kids have friends nearby and can just pop over to see them😀..

I am quite worried at the lack of diversity in secondary though as he will go from public to private...

Ilovecleaning · 17/07/2024 05:05

This is why most people tend to move in the same socio-economic groups.

CuriousGeorge80 · 17/07/2024 01:17

I agree with those that say it is odd to go on holiday with people and stay in very different accommodation. In our friendship group where there is a divide in income we either all stay in the cheaper accommodation or the wealthier people pay more so we all stay the same (if they want to, no pressure). I don’t think I would take my child on a holiday where they would automatically feel like the “poor” relations.

likethislikethat · 17/07/2024 01:01

I think a mix of showing the kids dire poverty and getting them to understand that hard work beats being given fortunes from distant relatives will do it.

Sunnydiary · 16/07/2024 22:43

I agree with PP there is a lot of projection going on here.

He probably loved the fact the big house had a football table, or a pool. Have you asked him what exactly he liked about it? If he says because it was bigger, the obvious answer is “so what?” He’s six. He’s not been admiring the floor tiles, beams and fireplaces has he?

Unless all that coffee has really affected him 😂

suburberphobe · 16/07/2024 22:29

seeing friends for coffees

At the age of 6?!

Unless I've misunderstood and it's you you're talking about "seeing friends for coffees".

I've never seen a child of 6 being given coffee, and I'm talking as a mum of an adult now.

Anyway, sorry for derailing your thread OP.

emmaloo14 · 16/07/2024 22:17

We are a typical middle class family, my daughter is 11 and her BFF who she has been friends with since she was 2 is super rich, completely polls apart and whilst we can’t afford 5 holidays a year, there relationship is so precious as we both do different things with the girls and if something was too expensive then I would be able to say to the BFF’s mum I can’t afford that.
In fact in the last couple of years their business has done exceptionally well and has been mentioned in both the national & international press and the as it does these things get out and what is sad, is that the kids are embarrassed by their parents wealth and apart from a couple of friends actively avoid inviting friends over to their house because it’s so different to their peers. My daughter loves going for a swim in their pool and hanging out there but equally the girls are happy to go to the local swimming pool and hang out at are house.