I stood at a concert

"Saw Bruce Springsteen recently plus imagine dragons. Also saw Bon Jovi a few years ago plus U2 and goo goo dolls not so long ago. Everyone stayed seated...."

They'll be mostly older fans at those gigs though.

Ableist. Do you think blind people cannot enjoy live music?

But people have paid to SEE the performance.

Saw Bruce Springsteen recently plus imagine dragons. Also saw Bon Jovi a few years ago plus U2 and goo goo dolls not so long ago.

Think that might say more about the demographic to be fair.

Saw Bruce Springsteen recently plus imagine dragons. Also saw Bon Jovi a few years ago plus U2 and goo goo dolls not so long ago. Everyone stayed seated until pretty much the end when they did their most catchy, dancy numbers. I have never actually been to a stadium concert (and I have been to a lot) where every stood for the entire thing. Smaller gigs yes but for the most part most people sit to enjoy the music and have a boogey at the end when it ramps up.

If you can't see it, you may as well just listen to it at home!

Ok so do you?

Never said it was @Krumblina but, it's a bare fact. You can.

Do you genuinely think that's comparable?

You can also sit and enjoy the music without seeing it. HTH.

And what are security going to do if an entire block of hundreds of people are standing up? AND it's allowed?

This was a concert recently. What exactly is security going to do to get ALL these people to sit down?

And this was fairly near the front. Imagine being another 50 rows back and trying to get 3 times that amount of people to sit down? Especially in the middle of a row. How are security getting their attention? What is people start arguing and saying no because it's allowed?

Why are they there? To enjoy the music - you can just sit and enjoy it.

If you want to stand and dance either move to the aisle or go to a nightclub.

LOL

To do what? They've not broke any rules.

But surely in my example both needs are met? You stand when you need to and then you sit so the person behind can see. That’s meeting needs. Meeting wants is a different thing but that’s where kindness (from both sides) comes in

Next time get security.

I ask them to sit down. More people should.

I have 20 screws and 2 rods in my spine - I can't stand for long.

If they refused, I'd get the stewards to ask them.

You usually find it's a ripple effect - one person stands and instead of the person behind asking them to sit down, they stand up to - and so on.

There's zero excuse - you know if you're booking a seat so act accordingly.

I’m genuinely not itching for a fight. Not at all. I’m presenting a different view. It’s difficult when people have conflicting needs, that’s all.

It's not selfish if it's actually allowed. It's just the norm. It would be selfish to do it if it wasn't against the venue's rules and you just ignored the rules for your own benefit.

Yes, this is just like the outrage over people reclining plane seats. In the real world, it’s obviously a feature that appeals to and is taken advantage of by most.

Selfish would be if there were rules or a social consensus not to do these things. There isn’t. You can just as easily say it’s selfish to expect people to sit at a concert or sit bolt upright on a long haul flight - even more so, in fact, as you’re expecting the majority to conform to your wishes.

And from the Utilita Arena in Birmingham...

From Abba Voyage...

What did the small print or FAQs say about standing in seat positions?
If it's allowed, then it's allowed.

To guarantee an unblocked view you need to book front row of your block or a box in many concert venues.

Most tickets really don't specify that, it's just seated or standing and warnings about flashing lights.

Take a look at the FAQs for many if the bigger venues.
It absolutely does state this.
For most concerts, ime, standing is allowed in your seat space. It may even be encouraged by the artists themselves.

But, in most venues, it is permitted and people are warned on the websites that this will happen.
It isn't unreasonable of people,to,stand if they are allowed to.
It isn't selfish if people to stand when the rules say they are allowed.

What does warning people do?
It's not like theres a choice to see bands in a place where others aren't selfish

It's not selfish if it's actually allowed. It's just the norm. It would be selfish to do it if it wasn't against the venue's rules and you just ignored the rules for your own benefit.

I guess if you don't want to risk someone standing up near or in front of you, you need to select front row of the balcony/circle/stall seats only. Or consider a box. That's the only option where you could guarantee no blocked view in many of these venues.

I don’t think that matters - you’re itching for a fight here where I have none You explain your situation with me (I’m sorry I’ll need to stand for a bit, but I’ll try not to do it for too long so I don’t block your view) stand for as long as you need to be physically comfortable again and then sit down. The person behind needs to be as understanding of you as you are of them.