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I stood at a concert

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MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 01:12

Went to a concert and had a seat to the side of the stage. In my experience, everyone stands when the act comes on. This didn’t happen universally, but probably around a quarter of the crowd started by standing. I was a little in front of most of the other ‘standers’ and sort of leaned on my seat a bit to minimise myself I suppose, but wanted to enjoy the songs and not sit.

A few songs in, a lady behind me tapped my arm and asked me to sit because her boyfriend/husband (sitting next to her) couldn’t see. I just said, ‘I’m sorry, but this is a concert’ and carried on standing. I’m pretty small and there were massive screens and a stage. I don’t think I blocked it all out.

A few songs later, the ‘very popular and famous’ song was performed and everyone stood up including the woman and her boyfriend. After that, most of the crowd continued standing and a bunch of people were dancing like windmills and nobody bothered them. The angry man and his girlfriend stormed out at this point.

I don’t have a particular aibu, but I felt that I was only asked to sit because I looked like an easy target to ask. It annoyed me that the woman had to ask for the guy and that it was put to me that I should sit because this guy’s preference was all important. I also felt sad for the woman because she was wearing the band T Shirt (so I assumed she was the fan) and this guy seemed to ruin her night with his moans and complaints while she just seemed to want to dance and enjoy the concert like everyone else.

So, should there be areas at concerts where everyone has to stay seated? I don’t think all the seating areas should be this way because they outnumber the floor and it would make for pretty sedentary concerts but maybe a compromise somewhere?

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Krumblina · 11/07/2024 13:12

1offnamechange · 11/07/2024 11:52

To be fair you're posting on MN where people don't answer the door and get offended if they're expected to socialise with colleagues once a year or attend the hen party of their closest friend, rather than spending every weekend raving it up.

It would be interesting to see how many people saying you are unreasonable frequently go to gigs and what type.

I imagine if you posted on a band forum or tiktok you'd get very different answers!

I regularly go to gigs. All types of music. If it's a seated ticket I bought then I don't want people standing if front of me

OrwellianTimes · 11/07/2024 13:10

Sladuf · 11/07/2024 12:18

Interesting.

Indoor concerts

2023

Madonna at The O2 twice. I was in block A1 for the first show and it was seated but pretty much everybody stood up.

Pet Shop Boys at the M&S Bank arena, Liverpool and we were sat 4 rows from the front of the stage. All seated but most of us were standing and I was one of the first to stand up.

Elton at The O2 - all seated.

2022
Lost in Music - Disco tribute at Motorpoint arena. We were 3 rows from the front, all seated but most up dancing.
Roxy Music at The O2 - we were sat in block 113. Seated in front of the stage.
Dionne Warwick at St David’s Hall, all seated
Squeeze at St David’s Hall, all seated
From the Jam - Cardiff Student’s Union was standing only

2021

Altered Images/Tom Bailey/Human League - Motorpoint Arena, all seated. We were a few rows from the front of the stage. Stood up a lot of the time when Human League were on.

Scritti Politti/ OMD - Motorpoint Arena, all seated.

2020

Madonna at London Palladium, all seated

2019
Elton John at Cardiff City Football Stadium, all seated
Hall & Oates at Birmingham NEC, all seated
Squeeze at St David’s Hall, all seated

How bizzare. Virtually all the ones I’ve been to have been outdoors though, principality stadium, castles, parks etc. Places like the palladium/st David’s I’m not surprised are seated only as the chairs are permanent theatre chairs. Much more suprise by motorpoint as I’ve never been to anything there with seats, but not been to a gig there for ages. Been years since I went to the O2.

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 13:02

SpidersAreShitheads · 11/07/2024 12:59

It’s a bit shitty to buy a seated ticket knowing you’re definitely going to stand all the way through just because you can’t afford the ticket you actually want. I think it’s a bit entitled to decide you’re going to do whatever you want and screw what other people think.

I prefer to stand but due to a bad back, I have to get seated because I need to take rests. I also struggle in standing as I don’t like crowds. I very much judge what to do based on people around me. If everyone is sitting, I stay seated because I respect the fact I’ve bought a seated ticket and it would be rude to be up standing when no one else is. If the majority of people are standing, or even just a good proportion, I’ll then stand.

There have been occasions when someone behind me has asked me to sit back down. I always have because I respect the fact that it is actually a seated area. However I’ve always felt a bit humiliated and it takes the shine off the night because I then don’t know if it’s ok to stand up for anything, even when almost everyone else is!!! (I’m autistic so judging the “right” thing is hard!)

As I said earlier, you get venues where there is a standing section, then the fence to fence it off and then immediately after, rows of seating on the floor.

On the rules bandied about on here, no one should be standing because they have a seat, despite not being able to see because of the standing section in front.

TakeOnFlea · 11/07/2024 13:02

"It’s a bit shitty to buy a seated ticket knowing you’re definitely going to stand all the way through just because you can’t afford the ticket you actually want."

The venue tells you that you can, and most will, stand and dance at their seat. So no, it's not shitty. It's just fucking normal for anyone who actually goes to concerts. It's glaringly obvious that most commenting here never do.

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:59

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 11/07/2024 12:55

And what about when the majority are standing but a few want to stay sitting? Are they going to ask everyone to sit down?

I hope I'm not near any Mumsnetters when I see Bruce Springsteen!

Exactly. I swear half the people on this thread have never stepped foot in a music venue

HouseSmouse · 11/07/2024 12:59

MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 01:25

Those areas exist. I’m talking about people who choose to sit in a regular area (and, in this case, can stand when they want). But maybe there should be zones where people who just prefer sitting can just sit. Sort of like a quiet carriage on a train.

Sadly even in the accessible viewing areas people are now allowed to stand. The last 2 big gigs I’ve ‘seen’ at the O2 were at points almost entirely blocked by the people stood up to the left of me - it’s utterly maddening. I was sat in my wheelchair on the closest platform to the stage and the staff were powerless to do anything.

A friend had booked access seating (as not needing a wheelchair but unable to stand) and had the exact same issue. Previously people had been asked to sit when she used the same seating.

SpidersAreShitheads · 11/07/2024 12:59

BetsyBobbin · 11/07/2024 11:36

The people bleating about "Why didn't you get a standing ticket?" are ignoring the precious fact that standing tickets usually cost a LOT more than seated ones. Or maybe she doesn't want to stand the whole time? I want to seat during the slower songs and if the people In front of me want to remain standing and I have no qualms with that, there are massive screens.

It’s a bit shitty to buy a seated ticket knowing you’re definitely going to stand all the way through just because you can’t afford the ticket you actually want. I think it’s a bit entitled to decide you’re going to do whatever you want and screw what other people think.

I prefer to stand but due to a bad back, I have to get seated because I need to take rests. I also struggle in standing as I don’t like crowds. I very much judge what to do based on people around me. If everyone is sitting, I stay seated because I respect the fact I’ve bought a seated ticket and it would be rude to be up standing when no one else is. If the majority of people are standing, or even just a good proportion, I’ll then stand.

There have been occasions when someone behind me has asked me to sit back down. I always have because I respect the fact that it is actually a seated area. However I’ve always felt a bit humiliated and it takes the shine off the night because I then don’t know if it’s ok to stand up for anything, even when almost everyone else is!!! (I’m autistic so judging the “right” thing is hard!)

TakeOnFlea · 11/07/2024 12:59

"Yes, my daughters were at TS in Dublin 2 weeks ago. Seated. I’ve seen the videos."

Ahahaha what absolute horse shit 🤣

Look at all the meek little Dublin Swifties, sitting down. Oh, maybe not.

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YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:58

Drfosters · 11/07/2024 12:54

I think all these concerts show is it really is show dependant. I went to see Train at the royal Albert Hall a few weeks ago. Everyone stayed seated pretty much the whole way though until the end but the atmosphere was amazing! But then quite a lot of the times are not really get up and boogey tunes. Even imagine dragons when we say them we pretty much stayed seated and so did everyone else . When seeing Bruce Springsteen last year most of the concert was spent seated until the last 35 mins where he played his catchy numbers and who can sit down for dancing in the dark?

I would be annoyed if a person got up and stood for a slow number tbh if everyone else was seated. But the big numbers it is expected. Or really does depend on so many variables

But these are people complaining and insisting that the concert or gig, regardless of song being played, the venue or the band, should be seated and no one should be standing at all.

Or as someone said further up, they find it sad that people can't enjoy a concert sitting down. Why is it sad?!

Wedoourish · 11/07/2024 12:56

Depends who the act is .Would be pretty weird to all be sitting down for Nial Rogers 'Take that , etc !

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 11/07/2024 12:55

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:48

So what about placed where you get a standing area with seating directly on the floor behind that?

Unless specified that it's strictly seated, people can stand if they wish.

And what about when the majority are standing but a few want to stay sitting? Are they going to ask everyone to sit down?

I hope I'm not near any Mumsnetters when I see Bruce Springsteen!

TakeOnFlea · 11/07/2024 12:55

"I might make an exception for standing for the final big number."

Oh how very gracious of you 🤣 you realise that you don't own the venue? Luckily it is clear on the arenas pages that you are permitted to stand at your seat and to dance. They are clear that it's expected that many/most will.

To the question, can I stand up and dance at my seat. The new coop stadium said "Yes, we want you to enjoy yourself and have a good time".

And here's the O2, Leeds and Resorts World all saying exactly the same thing.

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Drfosters · 11/07/2024 12:54

I think all these concerts show is it really is show dependant. I went to see Train at the royal Albert Hall a few weeks ago. Everyone stayed seated pretty much the whole way though until the end but the atmosphere was amazing! But then quite a lot of the times are not really get up and boogey tunes. Even imagine dragons when we say them we pretty much stayed seated and so did everyone else . When seeing Bruce Springsteen last year most of the concert was spent seated until the last 35 mins where he played his catchy numbers and who can sit down for dancing in the dark?

I would be annoyed if a person got up and stood for a slow number tbh if everyone else was seated. But the big numbers it is expected. Or really does depend on so many variables

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:54

TM1979 · 11/07/2024 12:51

Yes, my daughters were at TS in Dublin 2 weeks ago. Seated. I’ve seen the videos.

I absolutely don't believe you that no one stood up at TS. My friend was seated in Dublin and posted shots panning around and barely anyone was sat down.

What's the obsession with remaining seated and thinking it makes you a better person?!

TM1979 · 11/07/2024 12:51

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:45

Have you seen any of the footage from the latest TS tour?! The majority of people were standing and there were people paying hundreds for seats behind the actual stage.

Screens are there to allow everyone to see the band or performer close up and a lot of TS personal footage taken from concerts were of the screens because of how far away she was from the majority of seating.

Yes, my daughters were at TS in Dublin 2 weeks ago. Seated. I’ve seen the videos.

Moier · 11/07/2024 12:50

The disabled areas are very small.
About 8 seats and four places for wheelchairs.
These need to be made bigger.
I can't stand that long.. my daughter tries to book disabled but if not then an end Isle on the floor ( no steps).
I've often just had to look at the big screen.
I've had to stop going now.

WorriedRelative · 11/07/2024 12:49

Ineffable23 · 11/07/2024 05:14

It makes sense to me to have a "fully seated" area and a "seated with option to stand" area as well as a "fully standing" area. That was everyone knows what they have signed up for and doesn't feel disappointed.

This. Venues should take responsibility for this kind of thing. It is unfair on people who can't stand if people stand in seating areas so there should be provision made and expectations managed.

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:48

FredericC · 11/07/2024 12:42

YABU.

It's a seated concert, you can stand if everyone is standing, however if the people behind you aren't standing it's incredibly rude to stand and block their view.

The idea you can't enjoy the songs sitting down is quite sad to be honest.

So what about placed where you get a standing area with seating directly on the floor behind that?

Unless specified that it's strictly seated, people can stand if they wish.

Sladuf · 11/07/2024 12:46

1offnamechange · 11/07/2024 11:48

Everyone moaning about blocking the view -you can barely see anything of thr performer in a big venue because they are so far away, that's exactly why they have the big screens in the first place. If you're 80 feet away from the stage it's not as if you can see the guitarist plucking the strings or anything anyway.

In most places its not like there are just a few hundred seats - there are thousands. If all of those people weren't allowed to stand up i imagine theyd rather not attend.

Perhaps its the type of gigs i go to but I can't imagine sitting there politely nodding my head and tapping my knee while the band is giving it everything and singers are jumping all over the stage. Surely bands want to see their audience enjoying themselves and engaging with the music (singing, dancing etc) not sitting down staring straight ahead as if they're at the cinema.

Maybe there should be a "seated all the way throughout" option but I doubt it would be popular. Most people go to gigs because it's a more interactive experience rather than to have an amazing view, otherwise they'd just watch recorded gigs on YouTube or whatever.

I’m with you and 100% for your follow-up post too!!

When I started going to concerts in the 90s, up until about the mid-2000s there seemed to be more options of buying standing tickets and being in front of the stage with seating in the blocks at the back of the venue and above.
However, every concert I’ve been to at the venue I frequented the most back then since has had seats even in front of the stage. That includes when I saw George Michael there in 2012 (one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to); The Jacksons in 2018; Chic & Nile Rodgers in 2018 and Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons in 2018. I saw Paul Weller there in 1999 and 2002 and it was standing only in front of the stage, likewise for Travis in 2002 and Jamiroquai in 2005.

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:45

TM1979 · 11/07/2024 11:54

So out of interest would the people agreeing with the op happily stand in front of a child at Taylor Swift for example and say well fuck them they can look at the screen? Kids under 14 generally can’t go in the standing area so they have to sit. God love them if they are sitting behind someone with some of the attitudes here.

Have you seen any of the footage from the latest TS tour?! The majority of people were standing and there were people paying hundreds for seats behind the actual stage.

Screens are there to allow everyone to see the band or performer close up and a lot of TS personal footage taken from concerts were of the screens because of how far away she was from the majority of seating.

FredericC · 11/07/2024 12:42

YABU.

It's a seated concert, you can stand if everyone is standing, however if the people behind you aren't standing it's incredibly rude to stand and block their view.

The idea you can't enjoy the songs sitting down is quite sad to be honest.

TakeOnFlea · 11/07/2024 12:41

"A seated ticket is SEATED. It being a 'concert' does not change that, if you wanted to stand and the venue allows it they would have 'standing area tickets' (which are separate, seated ticket holders have always been escorted back to seats when trying to enter standing zones). Abide by the ticket you have."

You are simply wrong @housethatbuiltme

The nature of the event completely changes it. Do you expect the arena to rip out the seats because it is something like King of Leon where the majority wish to dance? Maybe they can pop them back in in time for a classical evening. Or should they just not bother selling tickets for the fixed seating at their venue?

Go to the FAQs on any arena site and they agree with me. Here's Sheffield Utilita for example.

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Possinass · 11/07/2024 12:40

housethatbuiltme · 11/07/2024 12:20

Do you stand up and dance in the theater during Cats, the cinema during the greatest showman, restaurants with live music?

A seated ticket is SEATED. It being a 'concert' does not change that, if you wanted to stand and the venue allows it they would have 'standing area tickets' (which are separate, seated ticket holders have always been escorted back to seats when trying to enter standing zones). Abide by the ticket you have.

This is from take that's most recent tour this year. It's a "fully seated" concert. Do you think the atmosphere would have been the same if everyone was just sitting there? Watch some of the choruses etc. People on the floor are all standing and some are jumping around and waving their arms.
Honestly as i said if I was told i needed to sit throughout that show I just wouldn't go.

Take That, "Hold Up a Light" Live at the OVO Hydro, Glasgow. Friday 3rd May, 2024.

The view from the crowd, section 204 of the OVO Hydro.https://ahgutreactions.blogspot.com/2024/05/take-that-this-life-on-tour-ovo-hydro.html

https://youtu.be/o1ViAoQOxvs?si=sl2czr-xIiFqyDpA

twoblackdogs · 11/07/2024 12:38

If I pay for a seat I expect to see the performer, not your back.
There's a reason there is a standing area.

Ginnnny · 11/07/2024 12:36

toastofthetown · 11/07/2024 12:17

My point wasn’t specifically Eras, but an example of a gig where almost everyone is standing throughout. If I sat down for you, I wouldn’t be able to see, and your view still probably wouldn’t be great. It would require the whole block in front to all agree to sit down, and outside of stewards enforcing this, it isn’t going to happen. So I don’t think it’s unfair in that circumstance for the person in front of you to decline to sit.

I got your point; I'm not naive to think everyone in the seating area should keep their arse on the seat the whole time the concert is going - and as I said I too have stood up for certain songs. But not everyone in the seating area wants to stand up and dance, or have their view blocked by people doing so. I'd love to be in the standing area dancing the whole time, but I can't physically manage anymore!
I guess I'm lucky nobody has ever refused to sit, and I'd not be annoyed if they did. My experience might be less, but you can't control others actions.

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