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MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 01:12

Went to a concert and had a seat to the side of the stage. In my experience, everyone stands when the act comes on. This didn’t happen universally, but probably around a quarter of the crowd started by standing. I was a little in front of most of the other ‘standers’ and sort of leaned on my seat a bit to minimise myself I suppose, but wanted to enjoy the songs and not sit.

A few songs in, a lady behind me tapped my arm and asked me to sit because her boyfriend/husband (sitting next to her) couldn’t see. I just said, ‘I’m sorry, but this is a concert’ and carried on standing. I’m pretty small and there were massive screens and a stage. I don’t think I blocked it all out.

A few songs later, the ‘very popular and famous’ song was performed and everyone stood up including the woman and her boyfriend. After that, most of the crowd continued standing and a bunch of people were dancing like windmills and nobody bothered them. The angry man and his girlfriend stormed out at this point.

I don’t have a particular aibu, but I felt that I was only asked to sit because I looked like an easy target to ask. It annoyed me that the woman had to ask for the guy and that it was put to me that I should sit because this guy’s preference was all important. I also felt sad for the woman because she was wearing the band T Shirt (so I assumed she was the fan) and this guy seemed to ruin her night with his moans and complaints while she just seemed to want to dance and enjoy the concert like everyone else.

So, should there be areas at concerts where everyone has to stay seated? I don’t think all the seating areas should be this way because they outnumber the floor and it would make for pretty sedentary concerts but maybe a compromise somewhere?

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IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 11/07/2024 14:01

toastofthetown · 11/07/2024 13:57

Seated means you have access to a seat. It doesn’t mean mandatory seating in most cases, as another poster has pointed out by sharing several venues’ seating policies. It means that (unlike standing) you can take rest breaks between sets/during songs if you want to, visit the loos and stretch your legs and be easily able to resume your place in the venue and it gives you somewhere to put bags/coats/merch down if you have them. Buying access to your seat doesn’t influence how other people around you will behave if they are keeping with the venue’s rules. I don’t think dancing during concerts is a really new thing. I remember standing and dancing to Steps as a child in the 90s.

As I said I don't recall this phenonom at the various concerts I attended for the rock concerts in the 90s and 00s.

toastofthetown · 11/07/2024 13:57

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 11/07/2024 13:46

I'm glad you posted this. I've been to 100s of non classical concerts over the years, always seated where that's an option but loads where it was standing only.

I've tailed off going to non classical concerts and what is being described on here as "universal" wasn't my experience. However things seem to have changed and I probably will avoid concerts where seated means damn all.

Seated means you have access to a seat. It doesn’t mean mandatory seating in most cases, as another poster has pointed out by sharing several venues’ seating policies. It means that (unlike standing) you can take rest breaks between sets/during songs if you want to, visit the loos and stretch your legs and be easily able to resume your place in the venue and it gives you somewhere to put bags/coats/merch down if you have them. Buying access to your seat doesn’t influence how other people around you will behave if they are keeping with the venue’s rules. I don’t think dancing during concerts is a really new thing. I remember standing and dancing to Steps as a child in the 90s.

TM1979 · 11/07/2024 13:57

rainbowstardrops · 11/07/2024 13:53

I think you just have to be mindful of others around you. If everyone stands up then fine but if the people directly behind you are sitting, I think it's rude and selfish to block their view. I'm going to a concert later in the year but at the moment, I have trouble with my knee, foot and leg and can't stand for too long at a time. I will have spent a considerable amount of money on the tickets, transport and accommodation, so I'd feel pretty pissed off if I had to sit and look at someone's arse!

Exactly. It’s all about common sense.

TM1979 · 11/07/2024 13:56

But if the person behind cannot stand and asks you nicely to sit down then you should oblige. Or if there were small kids behind you then surely you have to have a bit of cop on. To think you are entitled to stand at or worse again on your seat for the duration of a gig is pure ignorance. Standing tickets are what you want to be buying even if they are more expensive. You can dance, jump, mosh and sway to your hearts content.

rainbowstardrops · 11/07/2024 13:53

I think you just have to be mindful of others around you. If everyone stands up then fine but if the people directly behind you are sitting, I think it's rude and selfish to block their view. I'm going to a concert later in the year but at the moment, I have trouble with my knee, foot and leg and can't stand for too long at a time. I will have spent a considerable amount of money on the tickets, transport and accommodation, so I'd feel pretty pissed off if I had to sit and look at someone's arse!

toastofthetown · 11/07/2024 13:50

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 11/07/2024 13:24

Equally what's the obsession about standing up (and annoying other people) makes you a better person / better connoisseur of music than some one who doesn't?

It doesn’t make anyone better, but a desire to move to music is a fairly universal human trait. Standing up facilitates that better for me than sitting and tapping my toes if I’m really into a song.

Stillavictim · 11/07/2024 13:49

It very much depends on the venue and the artist - a musical at a theatre, a classical concert, or a small venue without a dance floor then it is not the custom/etiquette to stand.
But an arena or stadium rock or pop concert then it is absolutely the norm to stand with a 'seated' ticket, to join in with the experience and atmosphere.
It seems a bit disingenuous to suggest otherwise for those types of concert - a basic youtube search will show you that for some venues/artists the majority of the crowd stand.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 11/07/2024 13:46

MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 13:40

I don’t think MN is very representative here. At least not representative of the 23k mostly standing people I was surrounded by for the majority of last night.

As it stands (no apologies for the pun), buying a seat at a concert venue gives you the option of sitting or standing. I’m not sure why we can’t all agree that some blocks should be reserved for mandatory sitting down then everyone can be happy. The balance of standing space to seats is massively unbalanced and many more people who actually attend concerts appear to want to stand.

I bought seat tickets because the person I attended with likes to sit sometimes and stand sometimes so she had the option to get up and down. I’m 5’1 and nearly every adult is taller than me and don’t resent anyone in front of me standing at what is usually an event where people stand. This is also true for many sporting events.

I'm glad you posted this. I've been to 100s of non classical concerts over the years, always seated where that's an option but loads where it was standing only.

I've tailed off going to non classical concerts and what is being described on here as "universal" wasn't my experience. However things seem to have changed and I probably will avoid concerts where seated means damn all.

MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 13:40

I don’t think MN is very representative here. At least not representative of the 23k mostly standing people I was surrounded by for the majority of last night.

As it stands (no apologies for the pun), buying a seat at a concert venue gives you the option of sitting or standing. I’m not sure why we can’t all agree that some blocks should be reserved for mandatory sitting down then everyone can be happy. The balance of standing space to seats is massively unbalanced and many more people who actually attend concerts appear to want to stand.

I bought seat tickets because the person I attended with likes to sit sometimes and stand sometimes so she had the option to get up and down. I’m 5’1 and nearly every adult is taller than me and don’t resent anyone in front of me standing at what is usually an event where people stand. This is also true for many sporting events.

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IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 11/07/2024 13:40

FredericC · 11/07/2024 12:42

YABU.

It's a seated concert, you can stand if everyone is standing, however if the people behind you aren't standing it's incredibly rude to stand and block their view.

The idea you can't enjoy the songs sitting down is quite sad to be honest.

Do you expect the arena to rip out the seats because it is something like King of Leon where the majority wish to dance? Maybe they can pop them back in in time for a classical evening. Or should they just not bother selling tickets for the fixed seating at their venue?

The Usher Hall removes all the ground floor seats for rock concerts. I saw Jack White, The War on Drugs and Christine and the Queens on the upper seated levels- no dancing. The ground floor was standing only.

The first time I saw Foo Fighters was at the (fully sold out) SECC at Glasgow. The floor of the arena was heaving with standing audience. The seated area was seated.

It was the same recently for The War on Drugs at Glasgow. Howver as you point out things seem to have changed. I will simply avoid these venues where standing is allowed in the seated area.

Whizzgosh · 11/07/2024 13:39

YANBU.
Saying buy a standing ticket is like saying if you want to sit down without anyone else ever getting up to dance buy a front row seat. In fact, if you don’t want anyone standing in front of you, buy a front row seat.
Standing tickets are limited and sell out quickly.
I suppose venues could specify some areas are sit down only and dancing is forbidden but I guess the reason that they don’t is because on the whole people want to get up and dance so these wouldn’t be popular.

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 13:30

SpidersAreShitheads · 11/07/2024 13:26

That’s what I mean though about being guided by the majority and respecting people around you.

I imagine in the scenario you describe no one would actually be sitting?!

I don’t think there are hard and fast rules either way but people just need to think about others - and that applies to both sides. If you’re in seated, you need to accept that it’s a concert and that sometimes people might still stand. If you’re in seated and you like to stand, you need to accept that sometimes you might need to sit if no one else is standing.

Of course I don't disagree with anything you've said.

I disagree with everyone on here who says you have to remain seating regardless because they don't want to stand.

Drfosters · 11/07/2024 13:30

Truetoself · 11/07/2024 13:22

So those who said YABU but will stand for the big songs .... how come you get to choose to stand up then? What if the people behind you don't want to stand?

Not sure- it is just the big rousing end numbers right at the end that everyone just collectively gets up and starts dancing and honestly I think if you have seen a band before you sort of learn the way it works I guess. But it’s a bit like who starts a chant at a football match - how does everyone suddenly join in? I think it is difficult to complain about 20 mins for the last song rather than 2 hours of standing

SpidersAreShitheads · 11/07/2024 13:30

Truetoself · 11/07/2024 13:22

So those who said YABU but will stand for the big songs .... how come you get to choose to stand up then? What if the people behind you don't want to stand?

I think if you’re in seated you’re guided by people around you. If there are lots of others standing then I don’t think it’s unreasonable to stand.

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 13:27

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 11/07/2024 13:24

Equally what's the obsession about standing up (and annoying other people) makes you a better person / better connoisseur of music than some one who doesn't?

It doesn't and I never said it does but several people on this thread have commented that they find it quite sad that people can't enjoy music without remaining seated.

They probably also remain seated at parties because there's no need to dance

SpidersAreShitheads · 11/07/2024 13:26

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 13:02

As I said earlier, you get venues where there is a standing section, then the fence to fence it off and then immediately after, rows of seating on the floor.

On the rules bandied about on here, no one should be standing because they have a seat, despite not being able to see because of the standing section in front.

That’s what I mean though about being guided by the majority and respecting people around you.

I imagine in the scenario you describe no one would actually be sitting?!

I don’t think there are hard and fast rules either way but people just need to think about others - and that applies to both sides. If you’re in seated, you need to accept that it’s a concert and that sometimes people might still stand. If you’re in seated and you like to stand, you need to accept that sometimes you might need to sit if no one else is standing.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 11/07/2024 13:24

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:54

I absolutely don't believe you that no one stood up at TS. My friend was seated in Dublin and posted shots panning around and barely anyone was sat down.

What's the obsession with remaining seated and thinking it makes you a better person?!

Equally what's the obsession about standing up (and annoying other people) makes you a better person / better connoisseur of music than some one who doesn't?

Krumblina · 11/07/2024 13:23

Truetoself · 11/07/2024 13:22

So those who said YABU but will stand for the big songs .... how come you get to choose to stand up then? What if the people behind you don't want to stand?

I don't stand for them

Truetoself · 11/07/2024 13:22

So those who said YABU but will stand for the big songs .... how come you get to choose to stand up then? What if the people behind you don't want to stand?

TM1979 · 11/07/2024 13:21

TakeOnFlea · 11/07/2024 12:59

"Yes, my daughters were at TS in Dublin 2 weeks ago. Seated. I’ve seen the videos."

Ahahaha what absolute horse shit 🤣

Look at all the meek little Dublin Swifties, sitting down. Oh, maybe not.

Where did I say everyone was sitting? I said my daughters were there with seated tickets.

TM1979 · 11/07/2024 13:20

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 12:54

I absolutely don't believe you that no one stood up at TS. My friend was seated in Dublin and posted shots panning around and barely anyone was sat down.

What's the obsession with remaining seated and thinking it makes you a better person?!

Where did I say everyone was sitting? I said my daughters had seated tickets. Get your fucking facts straight.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 11/07/2024 13:19

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Is it "universally accepted"?

The last non classical concert I was at was The War on Drugs at Glasgow Hydro a couple of years ago. Nobody was standing in the seated sections- there was a huge and crowded floor area of standing only.

I've seen Foo Fighters at least 3 times, always in the seated section of venues and people weren't standing there. I've seen Belle & Sebastian at least half a dozen times and the same. Same with Scissor Sisters and Rod Stewart. Even QOTSA I don't recall people standing except possibly right at the end- if you (general you) wanted to stand you could buy tickets for the standing area.

I've been to loads of concerts where standing is the only option and a few where there's a small amount of unallocated seating at upper levels, and that part remains seated.

SpidersAreShitheads · 11/07/2024 13:18

TakeOnFlea · 11/07/2024 13:02

"It’s a bit shitty to buy a seated ticket knowing you’re definitely going to stand all the way through just because you can’t afford the ticket you actually want."

The venue tells you that you can, and most will, stand and dance at their seat. So no, it's not shitty. It's just fucking normal for anyone who actually goes to concerts. It's glaringly obvious that most commenting here never do.

Well it depends on the venue doesn’t it?! Not every venue says that and often the wording is that people “may” stand up - I still think it’s shitty not to consider the majority around you.

I always go in seated for the reasons I’ve explained. I’ve sat through plenty of concerts where frustratingly, everyone has remained seated. I very much prefer it when people are standing and dancing but I still think it’s extremely rude to buy a seated ticket and stand up if everyone else is sitting. That’s what is “fucking normal” in my experience of the many, many years I’ve been going to concerts.

Maybe the disconnect here is the artists. Maybe the people who insist that it’s always ok to stand only go to shows that appeal to a younger, more lively audience? My preference is rock and bands which the audience almost never stays seated for, but I have attended gigs with a family member/friend to see an artist of their choosing that had a different vibe. IIRC the Simply Red concert was pretty much everyone seated the entire first half and then up dancing the second half!

mydamnfootstuckinthedoor · 11/07/2024 13:16

It is absolutely ridiculous to stand at a seated concert. Even when stood up, if there is an average-height guy in front of me, I can't see a damn thing. I paid the same for my ticket and I get to see nothing. There are usually standing areas - if that's what you want to do, buy a ticket for the standing space and leave us short-arses to enjoy the concert.

YellowphantGrey · 11/07/2024 13:14

Krumblina · 11/07/2024 13:12

I regularly go to gigs. All types of music. If it's a seated ticket I bought then I don't want people standing if front of me

So if everyone else stands around you, do you tell them all to sit down?

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