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MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 01:12

Went to a concert and had a seat to the side of the stage. In my experience, everyone stands when the act comes on. This didn’t happen universally, but probably around a quarter of the crowd started by standing. I was a little in front of most of the other ‘standers’ and sort of leaned on my seat a bit to minimise myself I suppose, but wanted to enjoy the songs and not sit.

A few songs in, a lady behind me tapped my arm and asked me to sit because her boyfriend/husband (sitting next to her) couldn’t see. I just said, ‘I’m sorry, but this is a concert’ and carried on standing. I’m pretty small and there were massive screens and a stage. I don’t think I blocked it all out.

A few songs later, the ‘very popular and famous’ song was performed and everyone stood up including the woman and her boyfriend. After that, most of the crowd continued standing and a bunch of people were dancing like windmills and nobody bothered them. The angry man and his girlfriend stormed out at this point.

I don’t have a particular aibu, but I felt that I was only asked to sit because I looked like an easy target to ask. It annoyed me that the woman had to ask for the guy and that it was put to me that I should sit because this guy’s preference was all important. I also felt sad for the woman because she was wearing the band T Shirt (so I assumed she was the fan) and this guy seemed to ruin her night with his moans and complaints while she just seemed to want to dance and enjoy the concert like everyone else.

So, should there be areas at concerts where everyone has to stay seated? I don’t think all the seating areas should be this way because they outnumber the floor and it would make for pretty sedentary concerts but maybe a compromise somewhere?

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Scunnered123 · 12/07/2024 18:36

It depends on the venue and how sloped the seating is.

I prefer to stand, it means I can move to a position where I can see. If the only option left is seated then I take it. However, the last couple of times I've done this the people in front of me have stood up. I stood up, but even when I stood I couldn't see. It wasn't a stadium so not enough of a slope to accommodate the height difference. I couldn't move sideways as it was allocated seats. The people in front were selfish and didn't care.

Many venues offer both. If you've missed the standing tickets (as I often do) I think you need to accept that you may not be able to stand.

Krumblina · 12/07/2024 18:32

easylikeasundaymorn · 11/07/2024 21:17

Would any of the sitters here actually go to find a staff member and complain that the person in front of them was standing dancing and blocking their view?

I am guessing not, because you know they'd laugh in your face. Because it's completely normal and accepted.

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Depends on the gig. Have you not been to gigs where only a few drunk people stand up?
Still it's awkward to complain isn't it. It's not nice to be put in that position.

Blades2 · 12/07/2024 18:18

yesmen · 11/07/2024 01:59

But there were big screens everywhere.

Yeah that’s really not the point. Would you pay 70-80£ to watch a big screen?

Pipinatent · 12/07/2024 18:08

MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 01:12

Went to a concert and had a seat to the side of the stage. In my experience, everyone stands when the act comes on. This didn’t happen universally, but probably around a quarter of the crowd started by standing. I was a little in front of most of the other ‘standers’ and sort of leaned on my seat a bit to minimise myself I suppose, but wanted to enjoy the songs and not sit.

A few songs in, a lady behind me tapped my arm and asked me to sit because her boyfriend/husband (sitting next to her) couldn’t see. I just said, ‘I’m sorry, but this is a concert’ and carried on standing. I’m pretty small and there were massive screens and a stage. I don’t think I blocked it all out.

A few songs later, the ‘very popular and famous’ song was performed and everyone stood up including the woman and her boyfriend. After that, most of the crowd continued standing and a bunch of people were dancing like windmills and nobody bothered them. The angry man and his girlfriend stormed out at this point.

I don’t have a particular aibu, but I felt that I was only asked to sit because I looked like an easy target to ask. It annoyed me that the woman had to ask for the guy and that it was put to me that I should sit because this guy’s preference was all important. I also felt sad for the woman because she was wearing the band T Shirt (so I assumed she was the fan) and this guy seemed to ruin her night with his moans and complaints while she just seemed to want to dance and enjoy the concert like everyone else.

So, should there be areas at concerts where everyone has to stay seated? I don’t think all the seating areas should be this way because they outnumber the floor and it would make for pretty sedentary concerts but maybe a compromise somewhere?

I’m totally with you, I love standing at concerts! I’ve been to a few concerts post-covid and the audience seem to have stopped standing up. Proper spoils it for me!
James Blunt is actually pretty good, he makes the audience stand 😂 but I’ve even been to rock concerts and people have stayed seated!

AllIThinkAbourIsKarma · 12/07/2024 17:35

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1offnamechange · 12/07/2024 15:58

Flopsythebunny · 12/07/2024 06:19

So once again, people with disabilities don't matter?

No, but it's two different arguments

"Venues should have sufficient seats and appropriate areas for disabled people to attend concerts with the knowledge their view won't be blocked." = a very reasonable point

"In venues that have not done this, it is the responsibility of the (sometimes hundreds of thousands) of other concert goers to sit throughout the entire gig and not stand up to dance at any point on the off-chance a disabled person might be sitting behind them." Isn't.

Devonbabs · 12/07/2024 10:22

I’d also like to bAn the fuckers who either sit or stand in front of you holding their phones aloft to film and you end up watching the gig through their bloody phone!! I’ve had words on several occasions

YellowphantGrey · 12/07/2024 10:17

So have the back of the arena on the slope seating strictly seated, no standing and easy access platforms. The rest of the place is do as you wish.

After all, if everyone bothered to read the OP properly, they would know that this is what was being asked, should their be dedicated seating only. Instead everyone decided to make out everyone who stood with a seat was breaking some sort of non existent rule and you should never stand at a concert ever and reaching even further and getting upset because they had convinced themselves that people were saying those with disabilities shouldn't be considered!

TakeOnFlea · 12/07/2024 10:06

"So once again, people with disabilities don't matter?"

You're reaching a bit there. I didn't say eradicate the accessible areas for people with disabilities. Goodness me 😂

TuesdayQ · 12/07/2024 09:03

MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 01:25

Those areas exist. I’m talking about people who choose to sit in a regular area (and, in this case, can stand when they want). But maybe there should be zones where people who just prefer sitting can just sit. Sort of like a quiet carriage on a train.

Just so you're aware (but I think you were absolutely right to stand in this situation), but there are SO few accessibility tickets available - even at Stadiums - that many people with disabilities end up having to sit in GA. So the idea of a 'stay seated' area is a great one!
That said, even when I have to sit in GA as someone with a disability, I would never expect people around me to change or temper their experience because I couldn't stand.

toastofthetown · 12/07/2024 08:57

Goldengirl123 · 12/07/2024 08:28

I can’t stand up for long and if you were blocking my view I would have asked you to sit down too

And what if (as was the case when I saw Eras this year) literally everyone is standing in front of me? If I sit I won’t be able to see, and the person behind will still probably have a restricted view as well. It would need everyone in the block to sit to accommodate the request, which would take stewards to intervene to enforce - which they won’t because it’s not the venue’s policy that being seated is mandatory. So in that case I probably would have declined to sit. I wouldn’t be the only one in the block standing, but if everyone is standing, I will be too.

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Goldengirl123 · 12/07/2024 08:28

I can’t stand up for long and if you were blocking my view I would have asked you to sit down too

Justwanttocomment · 12/07/2024 07:26

Anyone that didn’t get up to dance to The Bucket is unreasonable.

KaToby · 12/07/2024 07:15

Barleysugar86 · 11/07/2024 01:29

I have joint problems - not enough I need a disabled seat, but I can only stand for about ten minutes at a time before it gets uncomfortable. I would expect people with seats at a concert to be seated. This would have really upset me if you were in front of me honestly as you would have ruined my night. If you want to stand get a standing ticket surely?

A lot of people get seated tickets as there are no standing ones left. I went to see Taylor a couple of weeks ago and had seats but we (and
no one around us) sat at all,

Standupcitizen · 12/07/2024 06:52

They already have a large seated area - it's called the seats. If you want to stand up, buy a standing ticket.

Flopsythebunny · 12/07/2024 06:19

TakeOnFlea · 11/07/2024 23:32

"So why not make a large, solely seated accessible area for everyone who wants it to use? Officially disabled people, people in poor health and older people could all use it and there would be no need to restrict access to it because it wouldn't be popular. If there was the occasional healthy person who wants to use it then that wouldn't be a problem because it wouldn't be seen as a perk and wouldn't get full."

Because it wouldn't get full, as you point out. And these concerts are a sell out. I'm sorry but the majority want to get up and dance and that is allowed and expected then that's what will happen. And it's what should happen.

So once again, people with disabilities don't matter?

Flopsythebunny · 12/07/2024 06:14

TakeOnFlea · 11/07/2024 23:28

"Bon Jovi in concert in the 90s....that takes me back. teenage me saw them a few times, they were at their best then and everyone was up and dancing. 🎸 💃"

Them were the days. Amazing. The fireworks and huge wobbly things at the side of the stage. Nobody sat down the whole night. Amazing

Nothings changed. It's a concert, stand and dance with the rest of them!

What don't you get about "not everyone can stand " no matter how much they want to?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 12/07/2024 01:25

So I started checking somewhat local venues on what they say...
Most say "you should expect people around you may stand. Please don't stand on seats or in aisles"
But one specifically bans standing in the seated sections, which is interesting as I have said before I haven't booked shows there as often only the standing tickets are left and I want to be able to sit at times and stand at times. So seeing this has put me off using the venue even more (the prices are often more than I am willing to pay for the type of venue it is) now because I like the choice when in seated.

HouseSmouse · 12/07/2024 00:19

Far from sections being empty - accessible tickets can be near impossible to get, venues have very limited amounts of them and they sell out very quickly. Changes in the way tickets are booked mean that the areas previously reserved for wheelchair users are now booked by people that can and do stand. In the case of places such as the O2 (closest platform) and Wembley arena where you sit side on to the stage, your view can be blocked almost totally if the person nexts to you chooses to stand.

Ambulant disabled people that are unable to stand but can walk to their seat are often placed in the back row of a section (so only one step down), this means despite booking the correct ticket, their view is instantly blocked when people stand. Previously those sections were all seated.

IamaRevenant · 12/07/2024 00:13

For everyone saying 'just buy a standing ticket' you must be aware that some venues either don't have them or a very limited amount??

My friend is disabled and loves gigs so yes there should be accessible areas of course, but fully seated is just boring IMO.

IamaRevenant · 12/07/2024 00:08

MangosteenSoda · 11/07/2024 11:25

So according to some posters, I’m perfectly normal and according to others I’m the concert going reincarnation of Pol Pot.

100% of the people were standing and dancing for most of the night, it was just the first handful of songs where only parts of the crowd were standing and I don’t think I’m big enough to block the view of two screens and a stage so on balance, I don’t feel too bad about standing for The Bucket and Taper Jean Girl (songs meant for dancing 😳).

But seeing on here just how many people want to only sit really reiterates that there should be protected seating areas so that everyone can enjoy concerts and so that performers can still have a good crowd.

I refuse to go to seated gigs now for this reason. If I want to just sit I can do that on my sofa at home with Spotify on.

The last gig I went to that was (mostly) seated (no standing tickets available when I bought) was a really upbeat, energetic band I love and EVERYBODY sat until their last, biggest song. Zero atmosphere.

But then I like to get in the mosh pit and/or right up front by the stage dancing my arse off at gigs so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask!

Ps thank you for reminding me about The Bucket, I don't generally love Kings of Leon but that song has such good memories for me 😁

Geiyotue · 11/07/2024 23:52

Borborygmus · 11/07/2024 21:44

I must admit it's several decades since I last went to a concert, but I don't recall ever seeing people standing in a seated area. Things have clearly changed!

We were standing at concerts 30 years ago, how far are you going back??

miniaturepixieonacid · 11/07/2024 23:44

Takeonflea But surely it's common for accessible things not to be full? The venue is still required to have them regardless. All they'd have to do is increase capacity to the point that they think would be wanted and would sell (they must have the market research/experience to know that) and remove the need for proof of disability. If it's not an area that's going to be abused due to it being a compromise/lesser experience for 99% of concert goers, then it's silly to demand a 'level' of physical need for it.

I agree with you that a rock/pop/country etc concert is designed to be stood up and danced to. But there are people who can't do that. They're already losing out by not being able to join in fully and get the optimum experience. So they shouldn't end up losing out further by not being able to see. Their enjoyment matters too. Not more than physically able people's. But the same amount.

hmmmmreally · 11/07/2024 23:38

I'm just on my way home after seeing the Killers at the O2. We were in a seated area and we stood up as soon as they came on, as did the majority of people around us including an 83 year old man, who was stood next to us, it was awesome

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