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Are people just less tolerant of disability accessibility now ?

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Takemeback02 · 10/07/2024 15:46

I have been raising a disabled child 11 years now and the first 5 ish years I never really dealt with many issues regarding to the assistance she received or disability access.
the last 5 years has been a real struggle. Usually transport / theme parks etc

most recently 6 of us went on holiday abroad to a European destination, 2 disabled children who require a lot of extra care with very high medical needs and equipment. We always check the hotels first and we speak to before choosing one that works for us. We picked a hotel that offered reserved disabled Sun beds. We arrived and they offered us 6 ( same as whole party ) but we told them we only needed 3. We chose ones away from the kids sections and to the side of the main pool,
they were reserved everyday. They placed disabled badge stickers on the beds for the duration of our stay. I reckon there
was 3 days out of 10 where we didn’t have an issue with someone taking them. Most would move on once asked but have a little moan as they did it and a few who got obviously very upset.

one of the days was a nightmare, we were at the pool bar and physically saw a women tair off the disabled badge sticker and throw it on the ground. I put it back on before going to get the kids
changed and when I got back lady was on bed and had removed the sticker again and lobbed it on the floor.

I just feel the last few years there is an obvious difference in peopls
Tolerance for accessibility or has it always been this way ?

don’t get me wrong I know from the past actual accessibility had got far better but it just feels like it annoys people now.

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WiddlinDiddlin · 10/07/2024 19:18

Less thoughtful, less aware and yes, less tolerant.

My DP said to me today, on the way to the dentists, he doesn't understand why I am so anxious about going out now.

We arrived at the dentists...

The accessible parking space is such that my ramp opens down a steep gravelly slope with a slight camber to the left, so coming backwards off that ramp feels like I am going to tip the chair over and fall out.

The ramp up to the dentists door is narrow. One half of the double doors opens across that ramp so is shut as I approach.

I doubted my ability to get through the single door so asked for someone to open it - I have to line up very carefully (90degree left turn to face the door) as behind me is a set of steps leading directly to the door. Going backwards off these would be very dangerous.

Then I sit and wait 10 minutes whilst various reception staff come and fiddle with various keys to unlock the other half of the double doors which it turns out, they can't do. It isnt the same key for the door that is open, they don't appear to have a key and admit they have in fact never unlocked it.

Fortunately (as I am at this point on the verge of tears) I did manage to get through the single door - mm to spare either side.

Then I sat and wondered if I'd fit into a treatment room... again, yes, JUST...

I had emailed this dentists to explain I am a wheelchair user, its a large chair, I'd need various things, could they accomodate that. They said yes, no bother.

They will undoubtedly not remember how embarrassing and awkward this morning was for me once I'd left. It won't figure, they won't be aware of how scary access is from their accessible parking spot, it won't have crossed their mind that their toilet is not accessible (it isn't, I did look).

And they are not ACTIVELY being awful. They think they meet the basic standards, they think they are accessible.

My DP now understands why I am so anxious about every day things outside my own home, where I am in control.

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 10/07/2024 19:17

NotSayingImBatman · 10/07/2024 16:09

Not surprising when British citizens in particular have spent the past 14 years being told the disabled are all work shy drains on the public purse and if they’d just do the decent thing and die, then everyone else would be better off.

Yep, this.

LadyKenya · 10/07/2024 19:17

Ok@Melisha . It is possible to get PIP because of poor mobility alone though.

Melisha · 10/07/2024 19:15

@LadyKenya applied with help from CAB and appealed.

Melisha · 10/07/2024 19:13

Its because people are blamed for being physically disabled. They must not have taken enough exercise, or eaten properly, or be too fat. My DP uses a wheelchair and people assume all kind of causes. I am disabled and people assume it is knees or hip deterioration and thus my own fault - it is not.
Less children are born physically disabled so fewer people have much knowledge of physical disabilities. It is why amputees are treated better by the public. They are not blamed.

LadyKenya · 10/07/2024 19:11

Melisha · 10/07/2024 19:06

@SerendipityJane and we do not get PIP. You do not get PIP if your only issue is physical mobility. So we can not even use that to pay for the costs.

Really? Have you looked at a PIP form then?

BowlOfNoodles · 10/07/2024 19:09

It's because the political party's are trying to blame the disabled for the economy

Melisha · 10/07/2024 19:08

@SerendipityJane I did not say my disability is worse. I was calling out those who play top trumps. And it is very common online amongst people with neurodiversity.

SerendipityJane · 10/07/2024 19:07

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A really wise poster upthread did predict that threads like this turn into disability top trumps.

Maybe we can all win a prize ?

Melisha · 10/07/2024 19:06

@SerendipityJane and we do not get PIP. You do not get PIP if your only issue is physical mobility. So we can not even use that to pay for the costs.

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Nah, people who get competitive about who has the worst disability are twats. Everyone with a disability is struggling, other disabled folks aren’t your enemy.

Melisha · 10/07/2024 19:05

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Melisha · 10/07/2024 19:02

SerendipityJane · 10/07/2024 18:59

When Birmingham started charging for BB parking, abuse fell overnight.

It is very easy to get BB parking in my city now they charge for it. But we do not have much money and it limits what we can do. If we were both more mobile we could park further away much cheaper and walk. But we can not.

Melisha · 10/07/2024 19:01

I think there is a lack of understanding for people with physical disabilities, even amongst people with other disabilities. My DP uses a wheelchair. I have lost count of the amount of times we have went out with people who say they are disabled, use a mobility scooter or power chair, and when DP says they can not dance or walk far they agree they are the same. Then later in the night after a few drinks they are dancing away. They say they will pay for it the next day, but they can do it. My DP physically can not, ad they always seem surprised when they realise that.

LadyKenya · 10/07/2024 19:00

JohnTheRevelator · 10/07/2024 17:28

Hardly surprising when for the past 14 years,we've had a Tory government hell bent on demonising the sick and disabled,and branding them as shirkers,fakers and layabouts.

They did a number on several vulnerable groups of Society unfortunately, and used them as an excuse for why the Country is in a mess.

SerendipityJane · 10/07/2024 18:59

When Birmingham started charging for BB parking, abuse fell overnight.

SmallestMan · 10/07/2024 18:54

I think the meteoric rise in ADHD and/or autism diagnoses, the appearance and popularity of sunflower lanyards, and the emergence of long covid in recent years, all with associated perceived unique needs, may be a factor.

Melisha · 10/07/2024 18:53

I complained to reception when parents collecting children kept parking in disabled spaces. They were obviously told off and now whenever we park there one parent in particular glares at me.
When we last travelled abroad the staff had to ask a woman to move from the blue badge seats by the gate where people getting assisted travel can sit. She argued back with the staff, until they threatened her with not being able to board. Then she got off looking furious.

Melisha · 10/07/2024 18:50

SpudleyLass · 10/07/2024 18:35

I'm confused.

I was at Disneyland Paris last year and they definitely required proof of disability i.e DLA letter.

Unless you mean in Florida, in which case, as you were

I meant Florida. You are going to need proof next year.

Redgreenfroggy · 10/07/2024 18:47

as i disabled person myself i honestly think more people are just becoming entitled twats in general- for example

At my kids school you used to be able to use the gyms parking that was next door as it has a huge car park. However after certain parents insisted on parking in the blue badge spaces as it was easier to get away and then they actually verbally abused blue badge holders who asked them to move (why are you using fucking a gym if you are disabled was one of the phases used)
The gym has now installed a barrier that will only lift for members. The same parents are now parking over yellow lines and having stand up rows with the lolly pop man. The same parents are always moaning about their little darlings not getting in teams, parts on plays etc etc etc
Entitled twats about everything.

LadyCrumpet · 10/07/2024 18:40

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ruethewhirl · 10/07/2024 18:40

NotSayingImBatman · 10/07/2024 16:09

Not surprising when British citizens in particular have spent the past 14 years being told the disabled are all work shy drains on the public purse and if they’d just do the decent thing and die, then everyone else would be better off.

This.

M0T0GR3Y · 10/07/2024 18:36

Some people seems to think they have higher rights these days and would walk over everyone to get what they want!
A couple of years ago, I took a wheelchair bound relative to their doctors appt, and whilst they were being seen, I waited outside near my car to give them privacy. I was asked to move my car twice from the disbaled bay, because I was not displaying a blue badge. I casually declined with an explaination that the sign showed it was parking for a disabled / wheelchair user and did not specify that a blue badge must be shown to park there, and that I was indeed driving a wheelchair bound relative to and from their appt. The person tutted and said "Liar" under their breathe - loud enough for me to hear though...
...Roll on 5 minutes when my family member wheeled themself outside to get into my car. The commentor (still looking on) had such I sheepish/guilty look on their face! I 🙂 & 👋 goodbye.

SpudleyLass · 10/07/2024 18:35

Melisha · 10/07/2024 18:33

My local authority have started charging blue badge holders in all their car parks, and they have removed virtually all street parking in the town centre. So we now have to pay for parking on top of everything else.

Just to say someone mentioned Disney. I know Disney are changing their rules and are going to ask for proof. I did see a face book post that was removed in a group advising others to do as she had, and lie saying her child was autistic and needed to skip queues. I do understand when that happens how some people start doubting whether people are genuine.

I'm confused.

I was at Disneyland Paris last year and they definitely required proof of disability i.e DLA letter.

Unless you mean in Florida, in which case, as you were

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