Are people just less tolerant of disability accessibility now ?

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Also, an injury or illness doesn’t necessarily meet the criteria of ‘disability’ so doesn’t have the same legal protections.

Actually it does. To qualify as a disability under the Equality Act 2010, which confers legally protected characteristics, you only have to meet the conditions of ‘substantial’ which refers to the ability to carry out normal everyday activities, and ‘long term’, which means expected to last 12 months or more. And you don’t have to have had a disability for three years before applying for a blue badge - the badges are issued for a standard three years and the eligibility for some (not all) LAs states the disability has to be likely to last the full three years, not that you have to have had it for three years before applying.

I know of a few cases where this has been successfully challenged because for PIP claimants, 8 points in the moving around category or 10 points for descriptor E in the planning and following a journey category automatically qualifies you for a badge and not all PIP awards are for three years.

Not surprising when British citizens in particular have spent the past 14 years being told the disabled are all work shy drains on the public purse and if they’d just do the decent thing and die, then everyone else would be better off.

If you aren’t disabled you pay for a family day out, and can spend the day with your family.

If you are disabled you pay for the same family day out but can’t spend the day with your family because they aren’t allowed on the ride with you… so you queue with one companion in the accessible queue and the rest of the family queue separately in the main queue.

Then all the ignorant people bitch, moan and tut at you because they think you have something they don’t 🤦‍♀️

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Also, an injury or illness doesn’t necessarily meet the criteria of ‘disability’ so doesn’t have the same legal protections.

Actually it does. To qualify as a disability under the Equality Act 2010, which confers legally protected characteristics, you only have to meet the conditions of ‘substantial’ which refers to the ability to carry out normal everyday activities, and ‘long term’, which means expected to last 12 months or more. And you don’t have to have had a disability for three years before applying for a blue badge - the badges are issued for a standard three years and the eligibility for some (not all) LAs states the disability has to be likely to last the full three years, not that you have to have had it for three years before applying.

I know of a few cases where this has been successfully challenged because for PIP claimants, 8 points in the moving around category or 10 points for descriptor E in the planning and following a journey category automatically qualifies you for a badge and not all PIP awards are for three years.

No! So there are more of them 😬

At alder hey have they changed the parking so you scan the barcode on the blue badge on your way out. Not perfect obviously but easier than most hospitals and doesn’t involve taking the badge out of the car.

our local hospital you register the badge and it’s linked to the car registration which is ok but obviously an issue if you have to use a different car!

At alder hey have they changed the parking so you scan the barcode on the blue badge on your way out. Not perfect obviously but easier than most hospitals and doesn’t involve taking the badge out of the car.

our local hospital you register the badge and it’s linked to the car registration which is ok but obviously an issue if you have to use a different car!

Countess of Chester by any chance ?

The rules for BB vary from LA to LA- that isn’t the case everywhere.

Also, disabled people haven’t been given an advantage in your example;

if you have to have been having problems for 3 years to get a badge, then by the time disabled people have been given a BB they have struggled for 3 years before they were helped- twice as long as the injured or ill people in your example, who are better after 18 months. Disabled people don’t get better.

Also, an injury or illness doesn’t necessarily meet the criteria of ‘disability’ so doesn’t have the same legal protections.

Hospital parking is absolutely bonkers in every possible way in my experience.

Our major hospital, which has the only a&e to serve many major towns… doesn’t have an a&e carpark, or designated drop off space. If you stop anywhere near the foot entrance to it you are blocking the ambulances.

So You have to park in the main car park… but then there isn’t step free access to a&e- so wheelchair users have to go through the ambulance road and hope for the best.

The best example is a privately run car park for a nearby hospital. They went from free BB parking (which was about 25% of the total spaces) to having to go to a booth with the real BB (no copies) to get a card. There are cameras on the exit to check the person the BB applies for is actually in the car.

How do the cameras work? My little one is now in a wheelchair in our WAV but I am not sure he'd be easily visible and on the few occasions we use the car he rear faces. I wish our hospital had 25% BB spaces, if they put a mobile scanner in the car park it goes in the already minimal BB spaces. They recently took even more away in a car park re-jig. I have had to park a mile away and walk in before now which is OK for clinic appointments but not when he's sick and needs reviewing on PAU.

How do the cameras work when you can park in a BB space work dropping the owner off?

I've never heard if a 3 year rule-rhe badge is awarded for 3 years, they might want the condition to be likely to last fir those 3 years, but you don't have to be disabled for 3 years to get one. The fact it's a condition that you can or will recover from will like mean it won't qualify.

I could get the theme park thing if they did a morning at least when it was low crowds disabled only. That makes sense. Or if people did a day when it was completely uncrowded eg a Monday in school term. But for instance going on a Saturday in August and then wanting to avoid the queue - what’s the point - the place is overall heaving.
those 2 rides of 10 minutes are suffered for with 7 hours of crowds, smells, noise etc

I am not saying all ASD is the same - clearly it’s not.

I can’t distinguish from a crowded throng on a path and a queue. So as a way of example of you had to queue to see the king jt would be challenging but the argument seems to be that it’s not challenging to walk down Pall Mall on Coronation day to see the King ( as it’s not a queue just busy ) and you might just might be able to find a quiet spot for 10 minutes that has 6 chairs for thousands of people and you seem content to risk it despite the chances of getting into that quiet spot are remote given the sheer numbers of ASD people there are likely to be there also wanting to see the King.

Back to my analogy I would not dispute that those 2 minutes seeing the King are joyous I just don’t understand how you can mange the wall to wall slow moving throng of thousands of people but not the queue. The whole thing experience surely is one large queue in its way …

a 6 seats in a quiet zone to serve all the likely hundreds of people with ASD who have different types of ASD that means they can enjoy theme parks is not a lot. What happens if this is also crowded? That’s a huge gamble to go there is it not? And for what ? 2 or 4 rides?

I can even get it if you go to a really busy place but have a SEN camp in the centre eg a festival. Disability groups I know do that but they don’t tend to then wander around except really briefly - that area is their shelter/ island where they all stick together.

• but a theme park you have to walk around in the same crowd you are trying to avoid by not queuing.

I mean Thorpe Park is heaving and even none SSn people find it all unpleasant

It seems as crazy to me as taking my DS to NY - he loves travel but we know it’s going to be sheer hell and no accommodation can make that better.

Perhaps just because you have ASD not every needs to skip the queue because as people keep saying when you see someone with ASD you have seen someone with ASD so equally when you see someone with ASD who needs to skip a queue you have seen someone with ASD who needs to skip a queue - maybe not all do. I just think of someone can go to Thorpe Park on a Saturday in August and manage to just get through the entry way ..:

And if you have no sensory need but just trouble with communication eg pragmatic language or semantics / receptive that does not stop queueing. It’s the sensory issue that are the problem in this context

So my DS qualifies for a blue badge but I don’t have one as we don’t need it - as I can escort him door to door but when he does need it o will get one.

Just because you qualify does not mean you need to use it.

The rules for BB vary from LA to LA- that isn’t the case everywhere.

Also, disabled people haven’t been given an advantage in your example;

if you have to have been having problems for 3 years to get a badge, then by the time disabled people have been given a BB they have struggled for 3 years before they were helped- twice as long as the injured or ill people in your example, who are better after 18 months. Disabled people don’t get better.

Also, an injury or illness doesn’t necessarily meet the criteria of ‘disability’ so doesn’t have the same legal protections.

The rules for BB vary from LA to LA- that isn’t the case everywhere.

Also, disabled people haven’t been given an advantage in your example;

if you have to have been having problems for 3 years to get a badge, then by the time disabled people have been given a BB they have struggled for 3 years before they were helped- twice as long as the injured or ill people in your example, who are better after 18 months. Disabled people don’t get better.

Also, an injury or illness doesn’t necessarily meet the criteria of ‘disability’ so doesn’t have the same legal protections.

A woman pushed me on a plane in Feb, actually pushed me. None of us can go anywhere because the aisle was blocked with people putting things in the overhead bins. I said "could you be careful, I have MS" and she replied "Well I ain't got nothing and if you're a crip you need to get out of my way"
The cabin crew did nothing. Nothing at all.

I was at the bar because that’s where you get drinks from- are you expecting people to not drink in the heat all day because they have a sun bed ? Or just the disabled ones ?

if was a need not a want - we did not care where the sunbeds were located as long as we had space to take DD back to who has Mutiple life saving tubes.