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Help rid me of this weird woman - please!

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Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 10/07/2024 15:26

Apologies this is a bit long 😬. DH & I live in a v remote & rural part of the country, we took early retirement & moved here a few years back. It’s a lovely place & we’re happy & settled. The few (distant) neighbours we have are all nice. Friendly but not too friendly IYSWIM. DH & I go out now & again to the only pub round here & it’s always a good night.

A couple of years ago Zoe & Dan (not their real names) moved here, about five miles from us. He’s ok but I struggle with her. We’re roughly the same age but we have zero in common. She’s very right wing - pro fox hunting/blood sports, hates migrants & people on benefits. She’s not the sharpest pencil in the box & boasts that she’s never read a book in her life. Also believes weird conspiracy theories she reads on Facebook. Can drive but won’t so Dan has to take her everywhere. Consequently she’s stuck in the house a lot as he works part time. We’re chalk & cheese.

She’s started to text me & ask if they can join us in the pub. Hard to say no really - it’s a pub. Plus I know she hasn’t really got anyone else round here & I do (did!) feel a bit sorry for her. Because of the geography there’s a very small pool of potential friends.

Last night was a disaster - worst ever by a mile. She seemed a bit manic/hyper when we got there. I wondered if she was on something but she just kept saying she was excited as she hadn’t been out of the house for ages. At the best of times it’s hard to have an adult conversation with her but last night was terrible. Another couple who were there left as soon as decently possible. The DH’s talk about sport & get on pretty well but it’s impossible to talk as a four which would help dilute her. She just interrupts all the time, talks over them & paws at my arm to get my attention.

I’m pretty patient, & always put forward a reasonable view to balance her almost fascist opinions. Try also to not look at my watch too much. Everything I said last night she just laughed at weirdly & loudly. I asked her what was so funny & she just kept laughing - almost hysterically. It was so embarrassing. Like being back at junior school.

Later a woman was in the pub & sat behind me. Zoe was hyper - again pawing me & saying “look, look!! That’s a man isn’t it? They’re trans aren’t they? Go on look, look now!“ I snapped (v rare) & said a bit too loudly & sharply that she was being really rude & to stop it. She literally put on a pet lip.

Fast forward to the end of the night & I said we were heading home. Why? She asked. Because it’s nearly midnight & I live there I replied. Why? She again asked. Why do I live at home or why is it midnight? Why she just repeated “why”. On a loop. Whenever I said anything she just said why. I snapped again & said FFS Zoe you’re acting like a fucking toddler. Pet lip again.

Said goodnights, she said she’d had a lovely time 🙄. Meanwhile we headed in opposite directions. Me seething.

Congratulations if you’ve got this far btw.

Anyway - I couldn’t stand another night like that. So do I say something or do I just keep dodging her & her invites until she gets the message. It’s really spoilt the nice times we used to have there but I am not wasting another evening of my life listening to her spout that rubbish. The trouble is we’re a small community & do rely on each other. I’d also rather not fall out with anyone but how do I get shot of her without doing that?? I absolutely do not want to be friends. She maybe has one other person locally who messages her occasionally but that’s it. She’s NC with two of her three children (or maybe they’re NC with her) if that’s relevant.

So come on - please give me a steer, should I start dodging her messages & making excuses or should I just tell her I don’t enjoy her company?

You are not being unreasonable - start dodging.
You are being unreasonable- just tell her straight.

OP posts:
mylifestory · 13/07/2024 17:40

Sounds exactly like my mum. Narcissistic personality disorder. Read up on it. I guarantee ull be enlightened. That's why her kids are no contact, she doesn't work, is bored, doesn't get out much so is excited about it. Avoid!!

Iamnotabat · 13/07/2024 17:39

It sounds as though she was drunk or on drugs in the pub. My advice would be to avoid and if she persists, be honest. Tell her that her behaviour is unacceptable and makes you feel uncomfortable. She can make what she likes if that.....I know it's difficult in a small community but you really don't have to have your retired life spoilt by an idiot.

Fleurdalys · 13/07/2024 17:38

I'd quite happily tell Zoe to fuck off and never see her or Dan again
Job done

Trixiefirecracker · 13/07/2024 17:28

OverheardInLidl · 13/07/2024 11:26

OK but your village is an exception, not the rule

Or yours is? I’ve lived in a few and so far big mix of different folk.

dawngreen · 13/07/2024 14:36

I agree with the don't burn your bridges with her totally if you live in a small community. You can agree to disagree regarding your views. Fox hunting is illegal, and the courts should deal with the criminals. A well maintained hen house should be able to keep fox's out, and humans could not survive on eating rabbits alone. But I understand it would be wasteful if they were just killed. And just because some one lives in a rural area. It do's not mean they all share the same beliefs.

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 13/07/2024 14:34

Bobbie1976 · 13/07/2024 13:56

Thank you!

But it’s not true. Fox hunting being illegal doesn’t mean there are no people in favour of it!

HelpMeRhondaMe · 13/07/2024 14:26

@Grammarnut you sound hideous. And foxes are not ‘vermin’. Maybe look at yourself?

@Bobbie1976 what is the point of such an offensive post? Why would you say someone sounds 'hideous' just because you disagree with them? and 'maybe look at yourself' is a very silly and childish thing to write to someone who obviously has views they have thought about.

Some people think foxes are vermin. Some people think fox hunting is fun.
Some people think foxes are beautiful wildlife. Some people think fox hunting is cruel.

Some people are capitalists. Some people are socialists.

People disagree. Reasonable people disagree.

Bobbie1976 · 13/07/2024 14:04

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 17:34

Oh dear. We wouldn't get on either. I am a clause 4 Bennite socialist, which means I am also a Brexiteer (it goes with the territory) and back nationalisation of utilities and some transport. I support fox hunting (hunting in general, in fact, and I'm not that keen on fox hunting but hunting for food and keeping down vermin are both high on my list of useful things - and my late DH used to hunt when he was a small farmer, hares, rabbits - and to protect all you must support all, my DS like shooting (air rifles at tin cans, so nothing too lethal) and has taught his DS and DD). I think immigration needs controlling because the country I live in cannot take the weight of infrastructure needed for a population that has nearly doubled in 40 years (only 14% countryside now, according to some) and also unlimited immigration that does not support the local culture (women's rights, workers' rights, freedom of religion, rule of law and not of men, that people wear what they like, etc and don't get raped because they look like prostitutes) will destroy that culture. I am also GC, which means though I won't be pointing out loudly a TiM, I will object to him being in the ladies' loo. I don't hate people on benefits - which tends to mean one-parent families in my experience - but do think they need targetting better, e.g. all parents, working or not to get support for childcare which they can use for nurseries or SAHM, as they choose.
I don't know what sort of pencil I might be, but I suspect we might struggle to have a conversation in the pub. Or maybe not - we could discuss other things: gardening, food, Richard III (interest of mine), travel, women's rights maybe?
The point I am making is that she might not be as weird as you imagine. The other point is that you live in a rural area and people are your resource. You probably need to try to get on with her - she might share more views with your rural neighbours than you think - esp. re hunting, which tends to be a rural thing; foxes are not welcome in hen houses, nor seagulls among the lamb. They may all think you are weird. Just a thought.

@Grammarnut you sound hideous. And foxes are not ‘vermin’. Maybe look at yourself?

HelpMeRhondaMe · 13/07/2024 13:57

the turn this thread has taken about diversity has made me think of Royston Vasey and Tubs ' a local shop for local people, there's nothing for you here'

Bobbie1976 · 13/07/2024 13:56

lightisnotwhite · 11/07/2024 20:32

Fox hunting with hounds is illegal so there is no pro fox hunting.

Thank you!

AnnieSnap · 13/07/2024 13:33

Fair enough @HelpMeRhondaMe but ‘gotten’ was also used in old English. It hasn’t been used in more recent times in British English until it was re-imported from the US in recent years. I guess we must accept that language end and flows.

CharlotteLightandDark · 13/07/2024 12:46

My partner is of asian heritage and we have had people staring/acting a bit hostile when on holiday in rural places, so it’s good to hear that your village has plenty of diversity. I always think we’d get Slaughtered Lamb vibes walking into a village local!

GalileoHumpkins · 13/07/2024 12:28

TonsleyHouse3 · 13/07/2024 07:08

Hi, would urge caution on this one, as you point out this is a tight knit community, and you have no idea how beloved by the community this lady is, as she was not always in cognitive decline.

Suggest attend walking group with Zoe, or start one and work your way into this tight knit community thus.

Good luck and enjoy your journey.

What are you talking about?
Is Zoe now a 90 year old dementia sufferer who wonders the village in her nightgown while everyone smiles indulgently and gently leads her back home while thinking what a shame, she is so beloved by us all?
This thread is bonkers.

OverheardInLidl · 13/07/2024 11:26

Trixiefirecracker · 13/07/2024 10:29

I actually don’t believe that’s true, our village is just a microcosm of a larger town or city. You get right wing people sure but people are from all walks of life. No hostility towards gay people living round here or the people of different ethnicities. Like I said pool is smaller so more noticeable maybe but not massively different from anywhere else.

OK but your village is an exception, not the rule

Trixiefirecracker · 13/07/2024 10:29

OverheardInLidl · 13/07/2024 10:16

Actually from my own experience the poster is right. Small towns and villages tend to have far less diversity and they have few people of different ethnicities and cultures living there, so the people often do tend to have a certain level of ignorance and/or hostility towards people who are different. The larger towns and cities have a larger mix of different people so you'll find less of those attitudes.

I actually don’t believe that’s true, our village is just a microcosm of a larger town or city. You get right wing people sure but people are from all walks of life. No hostility towards gay people living round here or the people of different ethnicities. Like I said pool is smaller so more noticeable maybe but not massively different from anywhere else.

strawberryteacake · 13/07/2024 10:21

TonsleyHouse3 · 13/07/2024 07:08

Hi, would urge caution on this one, as you point out this is a tight knit community, and you have no idea how beloved by the community this lady is, as she was not always in cognitive decline.

Suggest attend walking group with Zoe, or start one and work your way into this tight knit community thus.

Good luck and enjoy your journey.

This woman is rude, obnoxious, bigoted, a fan of fox hunting, socially unaware, lacks cognisance of basic boundaries, pawing at the OP, etc - I find it highly unlikely she is "beloved by the community".

And she only moved there recently, anyway.

OverheardInLidl · 13/07/2024 10:16

Trixiefirecracker · 13/07/2024 09:34

Don’t be ridiculous. There’s a mix of people just like everywhere else, just that it’s a smaller pond but perfectly easy to find likeminded people you click with.

Actually from my own experience the poster is right. Small towns and villages tend to have far less diversity and they have few people of different ethnicities and cultures living there, so the people often do tend to have a certain level of ignorance and/or hostility towards people who are different. The larger towns and cities have a larger mix of different people so you'll find less of those attitudes.

Trixiefirecracker · 13/07/2024 09:34

CharlotteLightandDark · 13/07/2024 09:31

I’ve always suspected villages were full of right wing socially awkward types, I can’t say I don’t get tempted by the idea occasionally but think the city sounds safer!

Don’t be ridiculous. There’s a mix of people just like everywhere else, just that it’s a smaller pond but perfectly easy to find likeminded people you click with.

CharlotteLightandDark · 13/07/2024 09:31

I’ve always suspected villages were full of right wing socially awkward types, I can’t say I don’t get tempted by the idea occasionally but think the city sounds safer!

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 13/07/2024 09:12

Hi, would urge caution on this one, as you point out this is a tight knit community, and you have no idea how beloved by the community this lady is, as she was not always in cognitive decline.

OP makes it quite clear in her opening post that this woman only moved to the area a couple of years ago!

PerkyMintDeer · 13/07/2024 07:58

TonsleyHouse3 · 13/07/2024 07:08

Hi, would urge caution on this one, as you point out this is a tight knit community, and you have no idea how beloved by the community this lady is, as she was not always in cognitive decline.

Suggest attend walking group with Zoe, or start one and work your way into this tight knit community thus.

Good luck and enjoy your journey.

Cognitive decline?! There's nothing in OPs post that suggests Zoe has cognitively declined...she's not a dear old Granny with a touch of dementia, she's an obnoxious xenophobe who doesn't let anyone else get a word in, laughs at OP, sticks her bottom lip out like a 2 year old and whines "whyyyyyyy" like one when she doesn't get her own way, wanted OP to join in mocking a woman in the pub who may or may not have been trans...and so on and so forth. These are not indicators of any decline in cognitive ability.

OP says clearly in her posts that Zoe doesn't have anyone else in the way of friends so the chances of her being some sort of local treasure who's just a bit demented, like the countryside version of Barbara Windsor or something is unlikely. Far more likely that locals have distanced themselves from her as she would ruin any social gathering,

The last thing OP needs to do is start up some sort of hobby group in her downtime with someone who has treated her so rudely and made her feel so deeply uncomfortable. That would be masochistic to say the least. Not everyone deserves to be a friend.

TonsleyHouse3 · 13/07/2024 07:08

Hi, would urge caution on this one, as you point out this is a tight knit community, and you have no idea how beloved by the community this lady is, as she was not always in cognitive decline.

Suggest attend walking group with Zoe, or start one and work your way into this tight knit community thus.

Good luck and enjoy your journey.

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 12/07/2024 22:41

I don't think saying "really sorry but I just want to go to pub with DH tonight" or "really sorry but can't make it" in response to texts is pussyfooting or hard work.

Not the first time, maybe…

Venicelagoon · 12/07/2024 21:58

This thread is just amazing !! I live in a small village and there is also a person living there who is bipolar. Some of the time she's very chatty with villagers and some of the time she just confines herself to her house and gets very depressed to the point of needing to get psychiatric help. In OP's position I would just be less outwardly friendly. Or just laugh at the outlandish things said. Works for me !

PerkyMintDeer · 12/07/2024 21:36

Now I've got intrusive mental images of someone walking a pair of lips around on a leash 😩

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