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Help rid me of this weird woman - please!

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Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 10/07/2024 15:26

Apologies this is a bit long 😬. DH & I live in a v remote & rural part of the country, we took early retirement & moved here a few years back. It’s a lovely place & we’re happy & settled. The few (distant) neighbours we have are all nice. Friendly but not too friendly IYSWIM. DH & I go out now & again to the only pub round here & it’s always a good night.

A couple of years ago Zoe & Dan (not their real names) moved here, about five miles from us. He’s ok but I struggle with her. We’re roughly the same age but we have zero in common. She’s very right wing - pro fox hunting/blood sports, hates migrants & people on benefits. She’s not the sharpest pencil in the box & boasts that she’s never read a book in her life. Also believes weird conspiracy theories she reads on Facebook. Can drive but won’t so Dan has to take her everywhere. Consequently she’s stuck in the house a lot as he works part time. We’re chalk & cheese.

She’s started to text me & ask if they can join us in the pub. Hard to say no really - it’s a pub. Plus I know she hasn’t really got anyone else round here & I do (did!) feel a bit sorry for her. Because of the geography there’s a very small pool of potential friends.

Last night was a disaster - worst ever by a mile. She seemed a bit manic/hyper when we got there. I wondered if she was on something but she just kept saying she was excited as she hadn’t been out of the house for ages. At the best of times it’s hard to have an adult conversation with her but last night was terrible. Another couple who were there left as soon as decently possible. The DH’s talk about sport & get on pretty well but it’s impossible to talk as a four which would help dilute her. She just interrupts all the time, talks over them & paws at my arm to get my attention.

I’m pretty patient, & always put forward a reasonable view to balance her almost fascist opinions. Try also to not look at my watch too much. Everything I said last night she just laughed at weirdly & loudly. I asked her what was so funny & she just kept laughing - almost hysterically. It was so embarrassing. Like being back at junior school.

Later a woman was in the pub & sat behind me. Zoe was hyper - again pawing me & saying “look, look!! That’s a man isn’t it? They’re trans aren’t they? Go on look, look now!“ I snapped (v rare) & said a bit too loudly & sharply that she was being really rude & to stop it. She literally put on a pet lip.

Fast forward to the end of the night & I said we were heading home. Why? She asked. Because it’s nearly midnight & I live there I replied. Why? She again asked. Why do I live at home or why is it midnight? Why she just repeated “why”. On a loop. Whenever I said anything she just said why. I snapped again & said FFS Zoe you’re acting like a fucking toddler. Pet lip again.

Said goodnights, she said she’d had a lovely time 🙄. Meanwhile we headed in opposite directions. Me seething.

Congratulations if you’ve got this far btw.

Anyway - I couldn’t stand another night like that. So do I say something or do I just keep dodging her & her invites until she gets the message. It’s really spoilt the nice times we used to have there but I am not wasting another evening of my life listening to her spout that rubbish. The trouble is we’re a small community & do rely on each other. I’d also rather not fall out with anyone but how do I get shot of her without doing that?? I absolutely do not want to be friends. She maybe has one other person locally who messages her occasionally but that’s it. She’s NC with two of her three children (or maybe they’re NC with her) if that’s relevant.

So come on - please give me a steer, should I start dodging her messages & making excuses or should I just tell her I don’t enjoy her company?

You are not being unreasonable - start dodging.
You are being unreasonable- just tell her straight.

OP posts:
Yalta · 11/07/2024 01:22

I think she sounds either bipolar or just very very lonely.

How much time does her husband spend with her. Have they moved to some rural idyll and whilst her husband is getting out and going to work his wife is left alone in the house and probably doesn’t see anyone apart from her dh who might not interact with her that much from one day to the next.
So when she does go out she feels like she has to do a fortnight of talking and laughing and communicating in a few hours because she knows she won’t see anyone till the next week at least. Which comes over as completely unhinged

If she is lonely in her position I think getting a job or moving to a city would be better for her but I doubt her dh would as he is probably very happy with his work and life in general

if she is bipolar I wonder if her meds need changing

EnglishBluebell · 11/07/2024 01:21

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 17:34

Oh dear. We wouldn't get on either. I am a clause 4 Bennite socialist, which means I am also a Brexiteer (it goes with the territory) and back nationalisation of utilities and some transport. I support fox hunting (hunting in general, in fact, and I'm not that keen on fox hunting but hunting for food and keeping down vermin are both high on my list of useful things - and my late DH used to hunt when he was a small farmer, hares, rabbits - and to protect all you must support all, my DS like shooting (air rifles at tin cans, so nothing too lethal) and has taught his DS and DD). I think immigration needs controlling because the country I live in cannot take the weight of infrastructure needed for a population that has nearly doubled in 40 years (only 14% countryside now, according to some) and also unlimited immigration that does not support the local culture (women's rights, workers' rights, freedom of religion, rule of law and not of men, that people wear what they like, etc and don't get raped because they look like prostitutes) will destroy that culture. I am also GC, which means though I won't be pointing out loudly a TiM, I will object to him being in the ladies' loo. I don't hate people on benefits - which tends to mean one-parent families in my experience - but do think they need targetting better, e.g. all parents, working or not to get support for childcare which they can use for nurseries or SAHM, as they choose.
I don't know what sort of pencil I might be, but I suspect we might struggle to have a conversation in the pub. Or maybe not - we could discuss other things: gardening, food, Richard III (interest of mine), travel, women's rights maybe?
The point I am making is that she might not be as weird as you imagine. The other point is that you live in a rural area and people are your resource. You probably need to try to get on with her - she might share more views with your rural neighbours than you think - esp. re hunting, which tends to be a rural thing; foxes are not welcome in hen houses, nor seagulls among the lamb. They may all think you are weird. Just a thought.

You really like labelling yourself don't you?

EnglishBluebell · 11/07/2024 01:19

GinForBreakfast · 10/07/2024 17:06

I cannot bear people touching me to get my attention or to emphasise a point. I have no filter and usually end up shouting "don't touch me!" so I feel your pain.

TBH I would block her number.

That behaviour you describe here, makes you sound unhinged, sorry!

Verbena17 · 11/07/2024 00:45

If she invites you/wants to join you at the pub again, I would just say something like ‘think we’re just going to go and have a quiet evening at the pub tonight - just me and DH. Had a busy week at work and want to just chill on our own tonight.’

Say that every time until she gets the message.

ThatLilacMoose · 11/07/2024 00:07

OP I knew a person like this, said human thought we were “friends”. They would ask to catch up a lot and had very similar views to your neighbour. At one point I decided to end all contact by ignoring their communications but they never got the message and actually turned up on my doorstep out of the blue.. needless to say you must be polite but FIRM

BeardofHagrid · 11/07/2024 00:05

Grey rock her.

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Shybutrude · 10/07/2024 23:58

@Justcouldnotbitemytongue

Not your circus, not your monkey
The woman is not your problem,disengage .
Your partner might be friends with hers ,doesn't mean you have to be her friend
My partner played sport, the men were a team they had a connection..... The wives girlfriends and FWB did not, I never understood pretending to care and didn't. I was there to watch the game not to chat shit with people who didn't interest me so I didn't! Obviously one of two were fine but the majority nope, no interest in being their friend.

samanthablues · 10/07/2024 23:50

SallyWD · 10/07/2024 15:52

I'd do the slow fade. I wouldn't abruptly end the "friendship" but I'd play it very cool. Every time she asks you out just be vague and say either "Oh sorry I'm busy" or "Oh sorry, I'm tired". Keep repeating this until she eventually gives up.

This. Slow fade. You just became very busy. No explanations needed. Remain polite and civilised with her in case you bump into each other. Do not bad mouth her if it’s a small community. She’ll eventually get the message.

Cremeroulety · 10/07/2024 23:41

She actually bought a prostitute for her eldest son, as he has mild learning difficulties and she didn't want him going through life as a virgin... 🙄)

Well this is horrible and illegal surely 😣

Anyway, OP - she sounds awful. I’d probably tell her straight I wasn’t going to be spending time with her if she keeps being
persistent but normally I’d do a slow fade.

And to the poster who said we should be more compassionate of MH issues, has it occurred to you that someone like this is causing mental health issues for others?

Can’t be nice for the OP to spend an evening with someone who has such views or what about the person behind them in the bar if she overheard what her making comments about them appearing trans? This is clearly the kind of woman who offends and tramples
over people at every opportunity so spare us the MH excuse.

It’s offensive to decent kind generous tactful people with actual MH issues!

Cremeroulety · 10/07/2024 23:34

PerkyMintDeer · 10/07/2024 20:45

I’d also rather not fall out with anyone but how do I get shot of her without doing that??

By George, I think I've got it!

Borrow and wear DH's clothes for a few week, tell her you now identify as a man and that she is to call you Yusuf from now on as you've also converted to Islam and by the way, you've applied to house asylum seekers to help those who need a place to stay whilst waiting for their cases to be heard. And ask her to sign your petition against fox hunting and while she's at it this other one asking Keir Starmer to reverse Brexit.

Hopefully that should do it? Surely?

😂😂😂

billybear · 10/07/2024 23:33

ive just moved away from seeing a neighbour, felt they were only using me to let their dog out while they were at work, i had to keep coming home from where i was, to letb the dog in their back garden, then it wouldnt wee on their fake grass, just avoided them, missed a text off them think she got the message, big girl knickers on give it to her straight, you want a night out with your husband and some peace

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 10/07/2024 23:32

PinkQuail · 10/07/2024 23:08

Ones person's opinion huh!

What does this even mean?

You can only excuse so much with “Oh but mental health tho”. The OP hardly even knows this woman! Why is she expected to pander to her?

BarryCantSwim · 10/07/2024 23:21

BarryCantSwim · 10/07/2024 23:01

This is like some sad messed up bingo where she appears to have 4 corners topped up to a full house when you add on behaviours.

  • migrant hater
  • benefits hater
  • trans hater
  • conspiracy theorist

For real OP?

Sorry I missed off fox hunting.

Some might call that keyword stuffing.

Nanny0gg · 10/07/2024 23:21

oakleaffy · 10/07/2024 17:15

I've never heard of a ''Pet lip'' either.

Does it use a litter tray, and is it microchipped?

It's a very old expression.

My grandmother certainly used it and she was born at the end of the 19th century.
And it's been in common use in my family all these years.

MoonWoman69 · 10/07/2024 23:15

I thought fox hunting had been banned?! If not it should be, it's barbaric... But anyway, I digress!
I had a "friend" similar to this, DH's oldest friends girlfriend (we became a foursome on every night out, when I met now DH). She was also insufferable. Created drama with strangers in pubs and dragged me into it all. Every time! It was both baffling and embarrassing! I got fed up of apologising and being on edge every time we went out. She wasn't even on drugs, she just didn't give a shit! After a couple of years of this, I declined nights out with them. Luckily, they split up after getting married and having their third child. (She actually bought a prostitute for her eldest son, as he has mild learning difficulties and she didn't want him going through life as a virgin... 🙄)
Complete nightmare, I would definitely make myself unavailable, she'll soon get the message! Some people are just born without any filter or sense of right or wrong! Avoid at all costs!

yesmen · 10/07/2024 23:14

OooohAhhhh · 10/07/2024 22:41

Hates migrants and people on benefits..so what exactly does she bring to the party? I note that she stays at home earning 0 money whilst her partner works. I don't have a problem with that normally, but her attitude about others not working annoys me. Never read a book and believes in conspiracy dribble, she sounds thick.
She's excluded herself from reality and as a result it's made her socially awkward.
She probably acts like that because she has 0 friends so has forgotten how to be social. Who can blame them? she sounds incredibly annoying.
Just ghost her, she will get the message.
Saying nothing is better than being hurtful/telling the truth.

She might have all the money and he works for pleasure.

She might not be able to work.

She might want to work but he might prevent her.

She may have worked before and took a buy out.

Or, or, or.

Too many assumptions.

PinkQuail · 10/07/2024 23:08

Ones person's opinion huh!

pandasorous · 10/07/2024 23:07

she sounds like there is something not quite right?

either way, not your problem. Just ignore. no point having a confrontation. if you run into her, just tell her you've been busy.

NotSoHotMess24 · 10/07/2024 23:04

Trixiefirecracker · 10/07/2024 17:06

‘Pet lip’ short for petulant! I would run a mile! You don’t have to entertain this kind of behaviour, not sure why you feel you do. How does she know when you are down the pub? Slowly ghost would be my advice or just keep making excuses and avoid pub for a bit!

Yes, if she said she "hadn't been out in ages", this bodes well for not running into her, particularly if you've said you're not going out.

BarryCantSwim · 10/07/2024 23:01

This is like some sad messed up bingo where she appears to have 4 corners topped up to a full house when you add on behaviours.

  • migrant hater
  • benefits hater
  • trans hater
  • conspiracy theorist

For real OP?

NotSoHotMess24 · 10/07/2024 22:54

PinkQuail · 10/07/2024 22:14

You all sound like wonderful people NOT. If she has MH have you not heard of a bit more compassion and understanding.

You can be mentally unwell AND a horrible person - the two aren't mutually exclusive. I would argue this woman already has a lot more support in place, than the vulnerable people she apparently hates. Does she deserve more? Possibly, possibly not. But it's definitely not the OPs responsibility to provide it, particularly at the expense of her own comfort and happiness.

pancakestastelikecrepe · 10/07/2024 22:53

@Ayebutnaw yep

IamaRevenant · 10/07/2024 22:52

My husband had a friend with a girlfriend who sounds equally annoying, though in a different way. She dragged me off to the toilets (or my bedroom if we were at our flat) to go on, and on, and on about her boyfriend and how other women are constantly 'coming on to him' (doubtful). My H told me repeatedly she needed a friend so I was guilted into being nice to her. It was painful to be frank. It became apparent she was on crack almost every time too (literally not figuratively).

Thankfully she eventually decided I also fancied her boyfriend (no way!) and they both blocked us both.

Moral of the story, don't try to be some form of support to someone you don't like. Step away!

pancakestastelikecrepe · 10/07/2024 22:50

@Justcouldnotbitemytongue must be great being you, OP! Surely someone possessing as much cultural and social capital, as you, doesn't need to start a thread to seek advice on how to avoid a person, so seemingly not on your level? 🙄