Page 2 | To wish Sir Keir and his wife would not hold hands when working

BeaQuiet · 2024-07-10T09:23:14+00:00

They've arrived in Washington DC on official business clutching hands like the Macrons, the Obamas and the Sussexes. AiBU to find it a bit cringey? And before anyone asks, yes I do have bigger things to worry about but I fancy a chat.

prettybird · 18/07/2024 11:31

As I suspected: complete and utter double standards

What I can't work out is if they're completely unaware of it, or if they're being deliberately obtuse, or if they are so blinded by their hatred of all things Labour that they can't think clearly (which goes full circle back to the first option)

RobinStrike · 18/07/2024 11:21

@Janiie I don't think anyone who has risen to being DPP and running the CPSfor years, and then when he decides to become an MP at 50 ends up leader of his party and Prime Minister Minister within 9 years can be considered a pushover. Politics is a cutthroat world. He's also managed to force Jeremy Corbyn and his acolytes out of the party. I understand that for some reason you think he looks wet, but I think you will find you are wrong. As for Angela Rayner I think becoming Deputy PM is an amazing achievement. But it isn't one that Keir Starmer has necessarily supported. The Cabinet apart from her is very much Starmer's choice and she will be outmanoeuvred if she tries to force anything through.

cardibach · 18/07/2024 11:21

Janiie · 18/07/2024 10:56

He is 'looking far more impressive'. How? Tidier hair do? He is a wet lettuce who will be walked all over by his own party nevermind world leaders. Doesn't look or sound like a man who will be running any shows going forward.

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Your view of him as weak is really odd when you look at how he’s taken control of the Labour Party and remoulded it (whether in a way you like or not). It’s Tories who have been walked over by party factions.

RishisLeavingDo · 18/07/2024 11:13

He is hosting European leaders at Blenheim Palace for the European Political Community today

Janiie · 18/07/2024 10:56

IClaudine · 18/07/2024 10:01

The hand holding is of zero importance. What matters is what Starmer does in office. He is already looking far more impressive than the last five PMs.

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He is 'looking far more impressive'. How? Tidier hair do? He is a wet lettuce who will be walked all over by his own party nevermind world leaders. Doesn't look or sound like a man who will be running any shows going forward.

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 10:22

The State Opening of Parliament is work for the King and Queen. Complaints about the low standard of behaviour, ie hand-holding on a state occasion, by the Monarch and his Queen should probably be addressed to Buckingham Palace rather than bitched about on MN. I'm sure a letter of apology will shortly be arriving through your letterbox.

IClaudine · 18/07/2024 10:01

The hand holding is of zero importance. What matters is what Starmer does in office. He is already looking far more impressive than the last five PMs.

Janiie · 18/07/2024 09:09

YDBear · 12/07/2024 01:30

Been together 35 years and still hold hands. What’s wrong with it?

Nothing is wrong with holding hands, nothing at all! However, If you read the thread the point actually is when on an official capacity (Labour, Tory, Green, snp any old political groups for the 'Tory HQ' parrots at the back), on work related duties it looks silly to hold your beloved's hand as if you're out having a lovely wander about together.
Females leaders don't tend to do it do they?

EasternStandard · 18/07/2024 08:43

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 08:40

CCHQ not handed out all its redundancy notices yet? Evidently not.

Which poster are you talking about?

Is it just meant to be all pro Labour on mn

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 08:40

CCHQ not handed out all its redundancy notices yet? Evidently not.

BIWI · 17/07/2024 23:01

'hun' is never used in a friendly way on Mumsnet. And @Janiie knows that full well.

pointythings · 17/07/2024 22:30

IClaudine · 17/07/2024 22:00

Starmer is a Boomer! He was born in 1962, end of Boomer generation is 1964

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Quite, I'm early Gen X and I was born in 1968.

prettybird · 17/07/2024 22:17

Has anyone managed to find a picture of Starmer or any world leader for that matter "holding hands" with their partner actually in the NATO meetings during formal proceeding or during their smaller formal meetings with other world leaders?

If they can, I'll revise my opinion

IClaudine · 17/07/2024 22:00

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/07/2024 21:14

I think it’s nice. I think it’s a good shift in the way world leaders behave.

Gen X world leaders are the best too (Keir is older end of Gen X I think but his wife is younger)

Starmer is a Boomer! He was born in 1962, end of Boomer generation is 1964

IClaudine · 17/07/2024 21:52

Janiie · 17/07/2024 21:11

You prefer celtic what?

Anyway. As many have said whether TORY OR LABOUR or any other political parties hand holding on official business looks daft.

KC <post cancer treatment> and QC holding hands in that manner looks completely different.

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You obviously don't know any Scottish folk!

Think there's an explanation of the significance of the term you used in relation to Scotland if you Google. Sweetie.

newnamethanks · 17/07/2024 21:29

Different eh? Of course it is.

pointythings · 17/07/2024 21:29

Janiie · 17/07/2024 21:00

No, 'hun' is used on mn in a friendly way for those who miss the point. You must've seen hun on sm? Do you think everyone who uses it thinks people are Germans? How odd. Not that there's anything wrong with being German obvs <short for obviously>.but 'hun' in that context referring to Germans would be offensive tbh. What about lol? Lots of love? ?Think there's an abbreviation help list if you Google.

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Sarcasm, snugglebunny. Sarcasm.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/07/2024 21:14

I think it’s nice. I think it’s a good shift in the way world leaders behave.

Gen X world leaders are the best too (Keir is older end of Gen X I think but his wife is younger)

Janiie · 17/07/2024 21:11

IClaudine · 17/07/2024 21:04

I am not your hun sweetie.

I prefer Celtic tbh.

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You prefer celtic what?

Anyway. As many have said whether TORY OR LABOUR or any other political parties hand holding on official business looks daft.

KC <post cancer treatment> and QC holding hands in that manner looks completely different.

IClaudine · 17/07/2024 21:04

Janiie · 17/07/2024 19:33

Labour critics 🥱. Have you rtft hun? It has been said repeatedly that whether Sunak or Keir whilst representing the country it isn't the time to hold your dps hand. Female politicians don't seem to to do it. Maybe they do I just can't recall Theresa May or even Thatcher dragging their beloveds along behind them.

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I am not your hun sweetie.

I prefer Celtic tbh.

Janiie · 17/07/2024 21:00

pointythings · 17/07/2024 20:13

I don't think @IClaudine is German...

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No, 'hun' is used on mn in a friendly way for those who miss the point. You must've seen hun on sm? Do you think everyone who uses it thinks people are Germans? How odd. Not that there's anything wrong with being German obvs <short for obviously>.but 'hun' in that context referring to Germans would be offensive tbh. What about lol? Lots of love? ?Think there's an abbreviation help list if you Google.

pointythings · 17/07/2024 20:13

Janiie · 17/07/2024 19:33

Labour critics 🥱. Have you rtft hun? It has been said repeatedly that whether Sunak or Keir whilst representing the country it isn't the time to hold your dps hand. Female politicians don't seem to to do it. Maybe they do I just can't recall Theresa May or even Thatcher dragging their beloveds along behind them.

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I don't think @IClaudine is German...

Janiie · 17/07/2024 19:33

IClaudine · 17/07/2024 18:36

Tory HQ Labour critics seem to have gone rather quiet the past couple of days.

Labour critics 🥱. Have you rtft hun? It has been said repeatedly that whether Sunak or Keir whilst representing the country it isn't the time to hold your dps hand. Female politicians don't seem to to do it. Maybe they do I just can't recall Theresa May or even Thatcher dragging their beloveds along behind them.

Janiie · 17/07/2024 19:30

prettybird · 17/07/2024 17:53

This is from today: outrageous behaviour from someone "working, especially in a very senior position." (to quote @marshmallowfinder )

Maybe they'll re-adjust their opinion now and cut Starmer (and Obama and Biden and Macron and, and, and.... ) some slack

Honestly I've no idea why folk can't spot the difference. This hand hold isnt a Sussex style/ott romantic hand clasp one does whilst on a date is it?! It's more of a supportive gesture imo. I mean it isn't as if KC has had major surgery and treatment recently is it? Oh wait..

IClaudine · 17/07/2024 18:36

Tory HQ Labour critics seem to have gone rather quiet the past couple of days.