To wish Sir Keir and his wife would not hold hands when working

If he's going to the footie cos he's the British PM then it is official business and he doesn't need his hand held by his wife.

I’m totally confused. From what I can work out, the suggestion is that anyone saying that they don’t like watching Keir and Victoria Starmer hold hands must be a Tory who supports everything the Tories do (including disrespecting the HOC by lounging) and hates Labour?

I’m a Labour supporter, voted them in, am delighted with the new government, think Keir and Angela will do an amazing job, but I still agree the holding hands thing is a bit retrograde. It’s not political, it’s a conversation about social conventions and body language.

If you don't see the point I made I see little point in explaining it further.

What do you think this means?

What?! That's discusting. How dare he mock in the HOC they're all such a well behaved bunch

...and yet, and yet..... we didn't seen any threads in the past complaining about Conservative PMs holding hands on the world stage....

And despite the fact that most many world leaders have been photographed doing so

Double standards, much

Happy to be pointed in the direction of such threads.

How on earth do you extrapolate that from what this poster said?

Yet you think looking unprofessional by lounging on the benches of the HOC is perfectly acceptable.

See I wouldn't mind her holding his hand at the footie. She might need to, I bet it'll be quite daunting with all the shouty fans.

It's doing it on official business that jars. And yes for the twentieth time for those at the back that applies to anyone ot any political leaning be it Sunak, Trump or Starmer. Just look professional and save the hand holds for social events.

Are you enjoying your holiday, btw @janiie?

Eta: oops, got you mixed up with Clavinova. I am always doing that for some strange reason 🤔

@BIossomtoes indeed there are

He is lovely. So articulate and pleasant never gets wound up or screams scum at people who disagree with him

Mogg is not lovely. He has utter contempt for ordinary people. I think you are on a wind up, janiie.

looking like a little boy on his first day at school, about to wet himself and burst into tears

Again, a wind up.

So, you don't want a new head of state to meet the head of the Welsh or Scottish governments? Or to meet with the city mayors (of all parties, not just his own) not attend the NATO summit?

In case you've missed the news this week, rather a lot is already underway in government with daily announcements of changes already effected.

I'm not sure you can say he's gallivanting on a beach or sunning himself. He been quite busy doing the things I would expect from a competent leader. Leading from the front, not directing from behind.

There are some very sore losers around aren’t there @Houseplanter?

'He show disrespect to Parliament by lounging on the green benches during proceedings, apparently sleeping'

What?! That's discusting. How dare he mock in the HOC they're all such a well behaved bunch .

I wonder if Lady Starmer will hold his hand to take him to see the football on Sunday.

When he's finally finished jetting around maybe he'll crack on

@Janiie "He is lovely. So articulate and pleasant never gets wound up or screams scum at people who disagree with him."

Rees Mogg was involved deliberately altering voting requirements to disenfranchise people who might not vote first the Conservatives - and admits to doing so

He illegally arranged to prorogue Parliament and lied to the Queen.

He show disrespect to Parliament by lounging on the green benches during proceedings, apparently sleeping.

He might be articulate and not get wound up (and I'll acknowledge that his concession speech was gracious) but his actions and motivations while in a position of power are repugnant to democracy and decent standards.

I don't mind that he won the election tbh. He might do good things, we'll have to see I just wish he didn't look like a rabbit in the headlights every time he's out in public. He's not steely looking is he. I just hope he won't let everyone, including his own side, trample all over him.

None of which is relevant to a PM disembarking a plane, getting snapped by the global press clasping his wife's hand looking like a little boy on his first day at school, about to wet himself and burst into tears.

Well.... the pictures of BJ and Carrie desperately clasping each others hands on the beach at the G20 summit looks like she's about to take him off to build sandcastles and paddle his tootsies if we're going to make silly comments.

Did all the other heads of state also look like little boys or girls about to wet themselves while holding their other half's hands, or do you reserve your childish insults for your own PM because you can't handle the fact that your side lost the election?

Yeah but all politicians hold hands with their spouses, it’s the norm.

It will be unpaid leave. Doesn't affect annual leave - or shouldn't.

Regardless, having part of summer off to go abroad with your husband, when other people will have had leave denied, I imagine would leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth though

I imagine anyone with a modicum of common sense would understand. It's hardly like going on a girls holiday for 3 weeks and sod your colleagues. I imagine her role might have to change to some degree whilst her husband is Prime Minister.

Thanks @TimeandMotion. My point about last minute AL still stands. It's great to want and expect to keep your career, and it shouldn't have to be affected by your husbands new job, but the flip side of that is special consideration because if your husbands role, is going to irritate your work colleagues, who probably don't feel that they can't say anything

No no don't put it up bed I want to say that I hold my husband's hand all the time. He just put the bins out and I was there holding his hand lovingly and reassuringly and don't get me started on my elderly parents they never let go!

None of which is relevant to a PM disembarking a plane, getting snapped by the global press clasping his wife's hand looking like a little boy on his first day at school, about to wet himself and burst into tears.

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