To wish Sir Keir and his wife would not hold hands when working

BeaQuiet · 2024-07-10T09:23:14+00:00

They've arrived in Washington DC on official business clutching hands like the Macrons, the Obamas and the Sussexes. AiBU to find it a bit cringey? And before anyone asks, yes I do have bigger things to worry about but I fancy a chat.

Champagnesocialismo · 24/07/2024 21:28

It shows a fundamental lack of imagination if you think you can get to the top of a public sector organization by being soft. Actually you get very tough or you get tested down. I reckon it’s just that start and tbh it’s sensible; why would he want a kind of Greek Chorus voting like Corbyn did for years and years?

Most Labour leaders accept it as part of the party. Interesting he didn’t

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2024 10:37

cardibach · 24/07/2024 10:36

Hi @Janiie !
Hows this ‘walking all over’ going? Still think he’s a wet lettuce who won’t run any shows?
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-suspend-seven-mps-who-rebelled-over-two-child-benefit-cap-13183879

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Less than a week. 😂

cardibach · 24/07/2024 10:36

Janiie · 18/07/2024 10:56

He is 'looking far more impressive'. How? Tidier hair do? He is a wet lettuce who will be walked all over by his own party nevermind world leaders. Doesn't look or sound like a man who will be running any shows going forward.

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Hi @Janiie !
Hows this ‘walking all over’ going? Still think he’s a wet lettuce who won’t run any shows?
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-suspend-seven-mps-who-rebelled-over-two-child-benefit-cap-13183879

Starmer suspends seven MPs who rebelled over two-child benefit cap

Richard Burgon, John McDonnell, Imran Hussain, Apsana Begum, Zarah Sultana, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Ian Byrne have all had the whip suspended for six months, at which point the decision will be reviewed.

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-suspend-seven-mps-who-rebelled-over-two-child-benefit-cap-13183879

pointythings · 19/07/2024 13:44

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 22:49

All woolly revolutionaries welcome, pointy. You might want to bring a flask of tea? But on no account bring your other half in case you're tempted to hold hands. Tsk.

I don't have an other half - can I bring one of my cats? Also no tea unless herbal.

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 22:55

Might bring these along as well.

To wish Sir Keir and his wife would not hold hands when working

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 22:49

All woolly revolutionaries welcome, pointy. You might want to bring a flask of tea? But on no account bring your other half in case you're tempted to hold hands. Tsk.

pointythings · 18/07/2024 19:56

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 18:17

Man the barricades! Let's put a stop to this disturbing and distasteful public canoodling once and for all. Bring on les tricoteuses.

Can I crochet instead?

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 18:17

Man the barricades! Let's put a stop to this disturbing and distasteful public canoodling once and for all. Bring on les tricoteuses.

prettybird · 18/07/2024 14:25

Given that Charles and Camilla are never off duty , the following article is disgraceful Can we sack them?

https://www.hellomagazine.com/brides/491611/king-charles-queen-consort-camilla-rare-pda-moments-photos/?viewas=amp

prettybird · 18/07/2024 14:18

@pointythings True

That's why I felt the need to add the comment about knowing the origin of the word "chivalry" before one of them tried to use a "gotcha" on me.

Retired65 · 18/07/2024 14:15

The King and Queen's hand holding was not a bit like Sir Keir Starmer's hand holding with his wife!

Nanny0gg · 18/07/2024 14:15

pointythings · 18/07/2024 12:26

It's a Venn diagram. Nothing odd about it.

If the King and Queen are allowed to hold hands on a formal state occasion, so are other world leaders. Anything else is rank hypocrisy.

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They're not 'holding hands' FGS

pointythings · 18/07/2024 14:03

I don't. I do hower find it amusing to see the increasingly Olympic standard contortions some posters go through to argue why holding hands is fiiiiiine for people they approve of but never for our PM.

prettybird · 18/07/2024 13:21

It would appear that chivalry is not for commoners and yes, I do know the origin of the word but it's not how it is used in the current day

Don't expect logic to be applied.

pointythings · 18/07/2024 13:05

@janiie you can repeat your hypocrisy as much as you want. Doesn't make it fact.
You can whinge about world leaders holding hands as much as you want. Doesn't make it not the convention.

newnamethanks · 18/07/2024 13:03

Well, sometimes, but we generally leave the robes and jewels at home. They're really heavy, as our late Queen knce remarked.

Janiie · 18/07/2024 12:52

pointythings · 18/07/2024 12:26

It's a Venn diagram. Nothing odd about it.

If the King and Queen are allowed to hold hands on a formal state occasion, so are other world leaders. Anything else is rank hypocrisy.

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Ah right a Venn diagram! Gotcha.

He is in his late 70s. Has had major surgery which even though months ago at that age can leave one wobbly. He has recently had chemo. Maybe he needed a supportive hand hold. Even if he didn't I repeat that their handhold was nothing like the ones we are talking about. I await your next 'Venn diagram' in excitement .

Nanny0gg · 18/07/2024 12:45

BeaQuiet · 10/07/2024 10:28

this is a you problem not a them problem

Do you speak like that in real life?

No hang ups. Happy to hold hands with DH now and then but not at work.

I agree with you

However - I'm old school. Could never imagine Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip holding hands and I'm glad the new K&Q and the Wales' don't either

(The 'hand-holding' at the State Opening of Parliament isn't bloody hand-holding, It's escorting (chivalry) and entirely different!)

I think it's another US import but I'm not sure when it started here.

pointythings · 18/07/2024 12:26

Janiie · 18/07/2024 12:18

How funny to actually go to the trouble of doing an odd child like diagram.

If you read the thread you will see it isn't just Starmer it is any politician holding hands whilst on official business, you must have missed it (!)but i include Sunak etc in this. Do keep up.

That 'hand hold' by KC and QC is certainly not the average handhold we are talking about it is. Is that how you and your dp walk about??🤣

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It's a Venn diagram. Nothing odd about it.

If the King and Queen are allowed to hold hands on a formal state occasion, so are other world leaders. Anything else is rank hypocrisy.

Janiie · 18/07/2024 12:18

pointythings · 18/07/2024 12:06

Janiie 's law of permissible handholding in a simple diagram.

How funny to actually go to the trouble of doing an odd child like diagram.

If you read the thread you will see it isn't just Starmer it is any politician holding hands whilst on official business, you must have missed it (!)but i include Sunak etc in this. Do keep up.

That 'hand hold' by KC and QC is certainly not the average handhold we are talking about it is. Is that how you and your dp walk about??🤣

CostelloJones · 18/07/2024 12:09

Janiie · 18/07/2024 10:56

He is 'looking far more impressive'. How? Tidier hair do? He is a wet lettuce who will be walked all over by his own party nevermind world leaders. Doesn't look or sound like a man who will be running any shows going forward.

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I actually think he comes across as quite intelligent and thoughtful. He may be quiet but not necessarily a bad thing. (And I wasn’t sure about him for a long time)

CostelloJones · 18/07/2024 12:08

Oh stop 😂 they seem like a really sweet couple actually

pointythings · 18/07/2024 12:06

Janiie 's law of permissible handholding in a simple diagram.

BIossomtoes · 18/07/2024 11:40

IClaudine · 18/07/2024 11:36

I see the grapes have not sweetened.

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Never will, they’ll turn to vinegar.

IClaudine · 18/07/2024 11:36

Janiie · 18/07/2024 10:56

He is 'looking far more impressive'. How? Tidier hair do? He is a wet lettuce who will be walked all over by his own party nevermind world leaders. Doesn't look or sound like a man who will be running any shows going forward.

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I see the grapes have not sweetened.