How likely are PIP vouchers now labour are in?

mental illness is not the same as Neurodiversity.

MH has exploded after covid and increased again due to austerity / poverty and lack of access to MH support. Now as an adult you literally need to attempt and fail at suicide to get on the list. My sister is terribly mentally unwell, cripplingly so, and has been trying for 3 years to access help, but she does not meet the threshold.My dad tried to top himself and he has help. When my daughter asked for help she was refused.
A raise in people with MH issues is bound to happen if they are left to themselves to cope, and a raise in people unable to work and needing support is obviously going to follow

Oooh am I a part of this degenerate public... always wanted to be in a gang ... Degenerate Disabledz Unite...

Ahh the idea of reforming PIP a benefit designed to reform DLA, that hasn't actually finished doing that yet...

What fun.

@Rainbowsponge what do you mean by public degeneration in your comment "And frankly it makes me see how we reached this sorry state of terminal economic decline and public degeneration to start with."
Does having a disability make me part of this degeneration?
Or are some disabilities deserving, and some undeserving?
Who gets to decide?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66592814.amp

Have they ?
I'm on a Facebook group for children with DLA
Everyday I see posters putting in claims for very tenuous reasons ,with no evidence etc but they are usually the ones complaining they haven't been awarded. .

By whom?

Yes and you get it from the NHS and legal protections in the workplace.

It’s literally been reported that this is a big factor in the rise.

I didn’t say that support is given with a diagnosis. I said that it’s usually needed. Which isn’t the same thing.

Nothing to do with this. A diagnosis doesn’t make someone eligible, and not having one doesn’t render someone ineligible. What PIP looks for is evidence of need. A diagnostic assessment report can be part of that evidence but that goes for any assessment of need, whether or not the outcome is diagnosis.

Yep.

@NettleTea gave some examples above. But it’s very much case by case dependent.

I dont know what your disability is but you wouldn't necessarily qualify anyway

My oldest son was diagnosed with Diabetes last year his wwa due to acute necrotizing pancreatitis, so he's treated as type1 as he virtually no pancreas left but he actually has type 3c
However even though he has to inject himself with insulin upto 5 times a day and take tablets ti help digest his food
He doesn't need help with self care etc and can prepare a meal for himself and undertake a journey from A to B he wouldn't qualify for PIP

I'm not being rude. You're just being absurd. There isn't always extra support. Most of the time it's "here's your diagnosis, bye"

If you’re just going to be rude then I won’t engage with you. It’s nice that these problems are a laughable joke for some of you(!)

Lol, what extra support?

Yes but the numbers of applicants as a whole has massively increased and therefore the % awarded.

If you're disabled enough to have a diagnosis then usually, you will be entitled to and require extra support.

However, these benefits are awarded on care needs, they are not handed out with a diagnosis. As has already been discussed.

That doesn't necessarily mean they will get PIP ,both mental health condition, s and Neurodivergence conditions have huge spectrum, s
And entitlement to PIP goes off need not diagnosis .

Oh please this is getting absurd

Do you think paying 1 in 4 people disability benefits is even remotely affordable?

The continuing narrative on this website that everyone should have everything they want for free and anyone who acknowledges this isn’t possible is ableist/a bigot/a Nazi, never ceases to amaze me.

And frankly it makes me see how we reached this sorry state of terminal economic decline and public degeneration to start with.

Covid has done a great deal of damage too. Not just to mental health but also physical. I know a man in his 40s and a teenage girl who both use mobility scooters now due to long Covid (previously fit & healthy)

My friend is a safeguarding officer in a senior school and she told me they have ambulances called for suicide attempts every week.

Being disabled and being disabled enough for benefits aren't the same thing

What vouchers are we talking?

I get PIP but it's £28 a week.

Food / public transport vouchers?

I wouldn’t have thought 1 in 4 are disabled enough to need benefits.

How would you know? It sounds as though you've internalised ableism. Which is not unusual really.

I wouldn’t have thought 1 in 4 are disabled enough to need benefits. I’m disabled and don’t claim. Yes my condition incurs costs, but they’re manageable and the way I see it if we all claim the system will sink. I don’t want that to happen. The level of support needed by the public is now so great and so complex we actually cannot meet it, it’s not possible.