How likely are PIP vouchers now labour are in?

But it was rare to get a lifetime award anyway.

Err, the Tories are to blame for the shambles that is PIP actually.

As a disabled person I have just completed a government issue survey ref pip reform and it mentions vouchers several times.
It also talks about other schemes such as a catalogue for aids and services so it is definitely still being discussed.

And only if you can engage with the support offered. Ds2 attempted suicide 3 years ago. Camhs assessed him, he couldn't talk to them and got upset when they tried. So he was discharged with a leaflet.

The thing that annoys me is the people who say they are entitled to PIP/DLA/activities for disabled children etc but they don't claim it because they don't need it. And they say I should do the same because by claiming dla for my dc I am the reason why the government hasn't got any money. The thing is they haven't applied for dla for their dc so they might not get it anyway. And their dc go to mainstream activities that my dc can't go to.

Unfortunately not, @Bushmillsbabe. It's mad really.

You can only apply for PIP online in some areas. You’ll need to check your postcode when you start your application.

From Gov.uk ^^

I don't claim, as I lack the strength to go through with the process.... and a lot of people do attempt to claim, and get turned down, and never bother trying again.

I actually don't think that not claiming DLA/PIP where there is a reasonable chance someone should be in receipt of it, is all that helpful.

Claiming these benefits is a major way our government actually understands the need for them. If people don't claim, the picture formed is that of less need than actually exists.

The PIP system is already online. I completed my application form online, and did my interview via Teams online. People have a choice to have a paper form or complete online.

I do agree though, there are high inconsistencies, I work with several young people with disabilities, and the amounts they get seem to in no way reflect their needs.

Well Labour are in now so you won’t be able to blame the Tories for much longer. They provided a useful (and useless) scapegoat for years so we don’t have to face up to the fact we’re broke.

Only if the attempt is considered 'serious' enough.

The main issue with benefits as they are now is that they accidentally discourage any personal progress, where that is possible.

For example if my adult son spends all his time in his bedroom, desperately depressed and distressed, he gets high level pip (which he can't spend on anything as he can't get out)
If he then begins to walk to the corner shop on his own, gets more confident, and gets the bus to the local shops successfully - then he gets less money, loses his entitlement to a mobility car etc. Even though he can now spend a little of the money himself.

If he tries working in any paid role, and it doesn't work, he has to reapply for LCWRA which takes months and a gruelling interview to get.

Mind you, we are now having UC cut as my son has been too disabled to spend his money as he relies entirely on us. So he now has "savings" above the limits.

The PIP system is already online. I completed my application form online, and did my interview via Teams online. People have a choice to have a paper form or complete online.

I do agree though, there are high inconsistencies, I work with several young people with disabilities, and the amounts they get seem to in no way reflect their needs.

Have they ?
I'm on a Facebook group for children with DLA
Everyday I see posters putting in claims for very tenuous reasons ,with no evidence etc but they are usually the ones complaining they haven't been awarded. .

As a disabled person I have just completed a government issue survey ref pip reform and it mentions vouchers several times.
It also talks about other schemes such as a catalogue for aids and services so it is definitely still being discussed.

I think the new government should look at PIP in the context of NHS waiting lists and available NHS diagnostic services & treatments, moving the application system online, sorting out the mess that is the assessment and review process, addressing the wildly inappropriate lengths of awards (e.g. 2-3 years for incurable, debilitating, lifelong conditions), training staff properly, addressing the disconnect between the law/statute and the DWP's interpretation of such, the frequent breaching of disability rights within the Equality Act 2010, the number of cases won by the claimants at tribunal (c. 70%), and the amounts paid to claimants in very different circumstances.

The PIP system is currently such a shambles (in my opinion) that it does need analysis and change. I hope the new government finds the consultation returns from charities, benefit advisory organisations and individuals informative.

The chances of the solution(s) involving vouchers, food stamps, tokens for therapy etc are so minuscule, I'm not going to waste any time or energy worrying about it. The government doesn't even know what the problem is yet.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66592814.amp

Posters are aware of this, and several knowledgeable posters have been suggesting for ages how the bill could be reduced on these threads. Maybe if they worked for the Government that implements these policies, we would see an improvement.

Posters are aware of this, and several knowledgeable posters have been suggesting for ages how the bill could be reduced on these threads. Maybe if they worked for the Government that implements these policies, we would see an improvement.

Posters are aware of this, and several knowledgeable posters have been suggesting for ages how the bill could be reduced on these threads. Maybe if they worked for the Government that implements these policies, we would see an improvement.

Yes,it infuriates me when I see what some people are trying to claim for I have to scroll past and bite my tongue 🤣
I also think some people are on the page to get tips about what to write but I digress...

There have always been people like this but really the days are gone where you submit the form and get awarded only on what you wrote.

I had to go to tribunal for one of my children even though her care needs are very significant for her age. I didn't need to submit any extra evidence to what I sent in the first place (diagnosis and school reports) so it's interesting that the original decision was overturned when it was being assessed by a doctor.