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How likely are PIP vouchers now labour are in?

237 replies

CatOnALightSwitch · 10/07/2024 10:22

Just as the title says really.

It doesn't affect me as I don't claim any benefits and work full time however my son and mother are on PIP and I'm not sure how vouchers would work for them and I'm a little bit worried.

I know there is previous threads on this but I can't see any being mentioned now labour is in.

Is it worth worrying about or is it a wait and see what happens situation?

Thanks all.

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elliejjtiny · 10/07/2024 11:17

Vouchers would work for very few people. It would be ok for my 11 year old if we got asda/Tesco/Amazon vouchers because his dla goes mostly on nappies, trousers, waterproof sheets, washing powder and the electric for the heated airer. So most of that could be covered by vouchers. But ds1's pip mostly goes on fuel for the car and ds5's goes on fixing/replacing the things he breaks. It also gets used in regular trips to soft play.

Ds1 heard about the voucher proposal and asked hopefully if I thought he might get hmv vouchers instead of PIP!

LadyKenya · 10/07/2024 11:17

A voucher scheme would be too hard to administer, and could not possibly cater to the many needs that disabled people have. I await to see, or hear of Labour's plans for disability benefit proposals. In the meantime I will not trouble myself with worrying about it.

AgnesX · 10/07/2024 11:04

x2boys · 10/07/2024 10:47

I mean how would it even work?
The whole point of DLA/ PIP is that it can be spent on anything thst benefits the disabled person
Be that an electricity bill or a spa day how could you pay for such diverse things with vouchers?

God forbid that anyone gets anything that benefits them. 🙄

redalex261 · 10/07/2024 10:58

Vouchers are a non-starter. PIP needs drastic overhaul though.

AutumnCrow · 10/07/2024 10:47

I think the new government should look at PIP in the context of NHS waiting lists and available NHS diagnostic services & treatments, moving the application system online, sorting out the mess that is the assessment and review process, addressing the wildly inappropriate lengths of awards (e.g. 2-3 years for incurable, debilitating, lifelong conditions), training staff properly, addressing the disconnect between the law/statute and the DWP's interpretation of such, the frequent breaching of disability rights within the Equality Act 2010, the number of cases won by the claimants at tribunal (c. 70%), and the amounts paid to claimants in very different circumstances.

The PIP system is currently such a shambles (in my opinion) that it does need analysis and change. I hope the new government finds the consultation returns from charities, benefit advisory organisations and individuals informative.

The chances of the solution(s) involving vouchers, food stamps, tokens for therapy etc are so minuscule, I'm not going to waste any time or energy worrying about it. The government doesn't even know what the problem is yet.

x2boys · 10/07/2024 10:47

I mean how would it even work?
The whole point of DLA/ PIP is that it can be spent on anything thst benefits the disabled person
Be that an electricity bill or a spa day how could you pay for such diverse things with vouchers?

Emmanuelll · 10/07/2024 10:30

The suggestion from the new government seems to be to help people who are too sick to work get well by improving access to healthcare, rather than punishing them for being ill.

The voucher idea is punitive, unworkable and arguably expensive to implement. It’s Tory ideological punishments. I don’t think Labour stand for that sort of thing.

LadyKenya · 10/07/2024 10:29

I do think that the PIP system should be looked at, and reformed. The voucher scheme dreamt up by the Cons, is a non starter, thank goodness.

Octavia64 · 10/07/2024 10:28

These are their five priorities.

labour.org.uk/change/mission-driven-government/

Disability and benefits aren't on the list.

Octavia64 · 10/07/2024 10:27

Very unlikely.

Labour seem to have priorities that they are working their way through (lots of announcements already) and changing pip isn't on their priority list.

LadyKenya · 10/07/2024 10:26

As has been mentioned here, nobody knows right now, what will happen. It really is a case of wait, and see. I do not see how such a scheme would be viable though. The needs of disabled people are legion.

randomchap · 10/07/2024 10:25

It was a Tory announcement change pip from being money paid monthly to vouchers for taxis etc.

I don't think it was even in their manifesto, it was just an announcement as part of the election campaign.

Labour haven't mentioned this at all, so I don't expect them to make this change to pip