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To worry that this is a major threat to our democracy?

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Worrydon · 09/07/2024 14:23

https://themuslimvote.co.uk/.

Ever since learning about the targeted campaign of threats and harassment against MP Jess Phillips, it has become clear that those harassing her, along with other similar independent MPs are being pushed into power by sectarian politics.

many of these independent MPs have gotten in purely off the back of being pro-Gaza, despite not offering any solutions to local issues. Our MPs should represent local and national interests, not exclusively one foreign agenda piece.

This website (the Muslim Vote) encourages people to put in their post code, and it then tells you who to vote for based entirely off their stance on Gaza.

This appears to be allowing religion and sectarianism to corrupt our democracy, and I worry that not enough attention is being paid to this threat.

The Muslim Vote - We are Pro-Democracy and Anti-Genocide

Muslims and all people who stand for justice agree that the current political class does not represent us. Peacefully, politically, and persistently we will vote them out.

https://themuslimvote.co.uk

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Ponderingwindow · 09/07/2024 16:10

This kind of voting suggestion exists for all sorts of issues. I could survey every candidate about the best flavor of ice cream if I thought that was the most important campaign issue and could convince enough of them to provide the information. It is a long held tradition, the internet has just made the information easier to access.

Wgdici52828 · 09/07/2024 16:09

I disagree. Lots of people are single issue voters. Just look at how many people on mumsnet claim to have voted purely because of a party’s stance on trans rights, or VAT on school fees, or immigration. Voting purely because of a party or individual’s stance on Gaza is no different.

We also don’t know how these MPs will fare on local issues. They’re brand new. They might be brilliant at representing their communities. They haven’t had a chance to prove themselves yet.

KreedKafer · 09/07/2024 16:05

It's not 'corrupting democracy' in the slightest. If Gaza is the single most important issue for a voter, they are perfectly entitled to research which candidate they feel will best represent them on that issue.

It's no different from one of the many websites where you can choose from a set of manifesto statements and it will then tell you which party your views most align with.

'Democracy' means that every adult in the country can vote for the person they choose. It isn't corrupting democracy to provide people with information about candidates' policies.

Do I personally think Gaza is the most important issue facing the UK? No. I think it's an awful situation, but one which we are largely powerless to influence, so it's not high on my list of priority issues for an election candidate. But if if IS high on someone's list of priorities, then they are fully entitled to research things and vote on that basis.

Plenty of people, by the way, vote for candidates on the basis of Christian issues - for example, there are certainly Christians who would find out a candidate's position on abortion, assisted dying, faith schools and marriage legislation before voting for them. Do you also think that's a threat to democracy?

Bride2Be25 · 09/07/2024 16:05

I completely agree with you OP - according to reports I’ve read there was a lot of pressure on some mosques around who they should be voting for which is very concerning. Also video footage of supporters being extremely aggressive towards voters.

The Islamic religion should not have any influence over our politics at all.

I feel sorry for the non-Muslims in those constituencies - where do they turn if they need support now?!

KrisAkabusi · 09/07/2024 16:04

Why are you only objecting to the Muslim vote here? Why are you not objecting to lobbyists for Israel, Russia, Trump, big tobacco, big pharmacy, PETA, or any of the other single issue groups that do exactly the same thing?

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 09/07/2024 15:44

Harassment of MPs/candidates/campaigners/voters is obviously completely unacceptable.

Our MPs should represent local and national interests, not exclusively one foreign agenda piece.

This website (the Muslim Vote) encourages people to put in their post code, and it then tells you who to vote for based entirely off their stance on Gaza.

So? I'll vote for who I want, for whatever reason I want. I didn't vote for any of the people who you're concerned about, I voted Labour. But you don't get to say that voting because of cause X is invalid, but voting because of cause Y is fine. I personally think voting based on a single issue is misguided, but it's not up to me how people choose to vote a certain way.

Theunamedcat · 09/07/2024 15:30

The vote is over for the next few years surely?@

Hatfullofwillow · 09/07/2024 15:25

Not especially. This Government, and the last one, have pressure groups inside funded by Israel, with the express aim of furthering its cause. They also both have private companies lobbying and funding MPs.

I think it's the least of our worries regarding democracy in the UK.

Worrydon · 09/07/2024 15:07

Anyone?

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