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Mum friend too much

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Labmum321 · 09/07/2024 12:42

I made a mum friend on maternity leave a few years ago. I’m weeks away from having my second. In the last ten months I went from part time to full time at work and I no longer have much free time to see this other mum. I work compressed hours over 4 days. This only leaves me with a few hours on a night to make tea and spend time with my little one. On my one weekday off I like to spend the quality time with my child and not be distracted with play dates as they’re at nursery the rest of the week.

She calls me and doesn’t get off the phone for at least an hour and it’s usually just talking about other people she knows in life that I don’t know or care to hear about. I never answer to her when I’m with LO. She’d ring whilst I’m at work and I’ve made the mistake of answering a few times, then I fall behind at work! The more I try and distance myself the more she messages and calls. I’m really trying to pull away from this relationship as it’s causing me stress, I don’t have the time I used to and I’m trying to prepare for my second.

If I don’t reply to her text she will Facebook message, Snapchat, WhatsApp, and/or call many times and then send voice notes saying it was an accident. Then she’ll send really long voice notes that vary between 5-20 minutes long! She messages every time she goes to the shops (sometimes daily) to ask if I need anything getting and dropping off even though I’ve told her each time, no thanks I have a car and two legs, if I need anything I will go and get it myself. I’m not on my own and I’m not struggling and after telling her no thanks again and again it really wears thin.

I don’t want to block her, she’s a lovely person or was before this, but obviously lonely as her husband works late most days but it’s just too much for me. I go on maternity leave in a few weeks and she works term time only and thinks we’ll be meeting up all the time! (We won’t.) I used to really enjoy her company but this is too much now and it’s really put me off wanting to be her friend. She has turned up at my house a few times after I’ve said I’m busy to ‘drop things off’ (that I haven’t asked for or needed) but ends up keeping me on the doorstep for ages. She messages at least 2-3 times a day on different apps and I very rarely reply.

What would you do? A few months ago I’d had enough after receiving a really long voice note where she’s almost in tears saying if I don’t want to be friends anymore then that’s fine as I’d stop replying to her constantly. I sent her a message saying sorry, I have a lot on and just don’t have the time right now to invest in this friendship. After that I received a 10 minute long voice note saying she understands in one breath then the next 9 and a half minutes was trying to have a catch up. I’ve stopped listening to the voice notes now too as they take up too much time.

I really don’t know what else to do. Am I being unreasonable here to want to cut her off or is this really odd behaviour? Has anyone else experienced similar and if so how did you handle it?

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Jumpingthruhoops · 17/07/2024 03:11

Apologies if I missed this in your OP - but had you told her before all the texts/voice notes/turning up unannounced that you wanted/needed to step back from the friendship?

Otherwise, it sounds to me like she has absolutely no idea you feel this way and still thinks you're the 'besties' you always have been.
Presumably she's not a mind reader? Time for you to be upfront!

Sockmate123 · 17/07/2024 00:13

What did you do in the end OP?

coastalhawk · 16/07/2024 22:52

MillieMinx · 15/07/2024 00:03

This response is perfect and much more eloquently put than the reply I was writing! I know how you feel as I’ve been in a similar situation and it was exhausting and stressful. I hope you can resolve this and get some peace

Add some nice things- its quite cold and something I'd send someone i didn't give a monkeys about. Costs nothing to say something nice!

MillieMinx · 15/07/2024 00:03

Ghgrynn · 10/07/2024 09:29

I think you’ll just have to be blunt. I would say something like ‘hi X, hope you’re well. This is a difficult message to send, but I have to set some personal boundaries for myself around communication with you because at the moment I’m finding it overwhelming. I don’t have a huge amount of time or headspace at the moment and my priority has to be my daughter and my immediate family. Going forward I won’t be listening or responding to voice notes or messages across multiple apps. I appreciate that your messages are coming from a place of caring but it’s more than I can manage.’

I think you can also restrict certain people from seeing your Facebook posts and Instagram stories so I would do that too so she’s not seeing you’re online.

This response is perfect and much more eloquently put than the reply I was writing! I know how you feel as I’ve been in a similar situation and it was exhausting and stressful. I hope you can resolve this and get some peace

Gymmum82 · 14/07/2024 15:16

Yousaidwhatagain · 14/07/2024 14:21

You think ML leaves you with all the time in the world??
You Clearly have no kids.
And why does op free time mean being emotionally drained by someone?

I have 2 kids. I’ve never had more free time than when I was on Mat leave. Spent most of it meeting up with friends and having play dates. Would love to have that much free time again

OriginalUsername2 · 14/07/2024 14:31

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 13/07/2024 10:49

Your last sentence is spot on. It's about her needs, she's not thinking of you, and you could be anyone. 100%.

That’s what I think, especially “you could be anyone”.

It’s like someone saying “I love you” after one date.

You’re just a warm body fulfilling the role of her “best friend”. She’s not hearing you at all.

Yousaidwhatagain · 14/07/2024 14:21

Gymmum82 · 13/07/2024 10:48

You sound a bit mean tbh. She’s clearly lonely and thought you were her friend (you’re obviously not) you’re going to be on Mat leave soon with all the time in the world for play dates which you’ll probably need and want but you’d rather cut this person off who sounds like she’d actually be there for you.
I think you should be honest with her that you don’t value her as a friend and let her make friends with someone who actually gives a shit about her

You think ML leaves you with all the time in the world??
You Clearly have no kids.
And why does op free time mean being emotionally drained by someone?

Cjw50 · 14/07/2024 14:19

I agree

Sockmate123 · 14/07/2024 13:52

I would find it really hard to send a blunt message especially if you will run into her in real life at nursery, gym, shops etc

I would just stop replying to 50% of messages them 70% etc and hope she gets the hint....

Why would you answer at work though? You've the perfect excuse. Say 'can't answer at work' and absolutely just leave it at that!

When baby born and she sends message just ignore 90% and if she's complaining just say sorry was sleeping. She'll eventually get the hint and find a new 'friend'. She sounds very intense!!

Nevermetaghostididntlike · 14/07/2024 13:41

Calls you? Only family do that with me now. Everyone else it’s texts, WhatsApp and emails. Don’t take the phone call and always message. It makes life a lot easier.

Disturbia81 · 14/07/2024 13:28

@Booboobedooo It is a good message, I would lose the "at the moment"s though because that is giving them a loophole. I've learnt any inch given they will use to their advantage. They'll end up going quiet for a week and starting up again

Booboobedooo · 14/07/2024 12:12

Ghgrynn · 10/07/2024 09:29

I think you’ll just have to be blunt. I would say something like ‘hi X, hope you’re well. This is a difficult message to send, but I have to set some personal boundaries for myself around communication with you because at the moment I’m finding it overwhelming. I don’t have a huge amount of time or headspace at the moment and my priority has to be my daughter and my immediate family. Going forward I won’t be listening or responding to voice notes or messages across multiple apps. I appreciate that your messages are coming from a place of caring but it’s more than I can manage.’

I think you can also restrict certain people from seeing your Facebook posts and Instagram stories so I would do that too so she’s not seeing you’re online.

This is a good message

Iseeyoupekingduck · 14/07/2024 12:08

JustAnotherHappyFatty · 13/07/2024 13:56

Personally I would like to know if someone is planning anything stupid, so if she messages to say she is coming to the house as she hasn't had any response to her previous messages for example, I would plan to be out or close the curtains and ignore her🤷‍♀️ it can be beneficial to know what people are thinking.

Hmmmm nooo just cut all contact! Soon get the message. They turn up at the door sorry I'm busy I'm on my way out.

JustAnotherHappyFatty · 13/07/2024 13:56

Iseeyoupekingduck · 13/07/2024 13:51

Why would she want to keep an eye on her state of mind? I really do not understand that, they need blocking so the op can breathe and not be stalked.

Personally I would like to know if someone is planning anything stupid, so if she messages to say she is coming to the house as she hasn't had any response to her previous messages for example, I would plan to be out or close the curtains and ignore her🤷‍♀️ it can be beneficial to know what people are thinking.

Disturbia81 · 13/07/2024 13:53

Tartfulodger · 13/07/2024 13:44

I think we all known someone like this. In the end you have to stop being afraid to offend and just be honest. I had to just tell someone I just can't be on the phone to her every day. Even when I explained there's nothing to talk about if you talk every day she just said 'Oh I can always find something to talk about ', and I said well I can't. I don't even talk to my family every day on the phone and we just don't need to text, call and visit every single day. It's too much. Some people need to be made to take the hint unfortunately and may need a few rounds with the clue bat before they finally get the hint.

This is it, we can be so British and polite. But we have to weigh up upsetting/offending somebody versus our own mental health, peace and lack of daily stress. That should win every time. Luckily as we get older I am more confident in being like that.

Iseeyoupekingduck · 13/07/2024 13:51

JustAnotherHappyFatty · 13/07/2024 13:27

Good grief, I am exhausted reading that!
How does this woman even have time in the day for so much bloody contact, I have friends that I've had for years that I only have time to contact every couple of months!
She sounds more like a stalker than a friend, personally I would send her one last message making it very clear I wanted no more contact (will be helpful if she doesn't take no for an answer and you have to take it further) and then ignore her completely, I wouldn't block her as it is easier to keep tabs on her state of mind if you can still see the messages.

Why would she want to keep an eye on her state of mind? I really do not understand that, they need blocking so the op can breathe and not be stalked.

Lisachooky · 13/07/2024 13:48

This kind of intense befriending is not healthy for her or you, Facebook etc has an on/off button,to save your mental health,I'd us it.

Tartfulodger · 13/07/2024 13:44

I think we all known someone like this. In the end you have to stop being afraid to offend and just be honest. I had to just tell someone I just can't be on the phone to her every day. Even when I explained there's nothing to talk about if you talk every day she just said 'Oh I can always find something to talk about ', and I said well I can't. I don't even talk to my family every day on the phone and we just don't need to text, call and visit every single day. It's too much. Some people need to be made to take the hint unfortunately and may need a few rounds with the clue bat before they finally get the hint.

Lupina12 · 13/07/2024 13:29

'she's a lovely person'

Is she though??? I contest this point - 'lovely' people have more self-awareness and don't pour all their needs onto one friend, who clearly has a lot on.

Draft a message or email and spell out to her that you have to reduce contact to one coffee a month (or suchlike), as you are overwhelmed with work and family.

Then stick to that; put her messages into 'archive' on whatsapp. Don't respond.

It's the only way she'll learn, and frankly you are doing her a favour - she will lose any friends she has (and probably has done already) by being so obsessive and needy.

20 minute voice message! WTF!!!

XX

JustAnotherHappyFatty · 13/07/2024 13:27

Good grief, I am exhausted reading that!
How does this woman even have time in the day for so much bloody contact, I have friends that I've had for years that I only have time to contact every couple of months!
She sounds more like a stalker than a friend, personally I would send her one last message making it very clear I wanted no more contact (will be helpful if she doesn't take no for an answer and you have to take it further) and then ignore her completely, I wouldn't block her as it is easier to keep tabs on her state of mind if you can still see the messages.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 13/07/2024 13:07

It’s tricky because I think these people genuinely don’t realise what they’re doing; they’re deeply hurt when their friends desert them and can’t work out why, because in their minds they’re putting so much effort into the friendship.

But in reality it’s all on their terms. They determine the frequency and the means of communication; they won’t take no for an answer; they make other people feel obligated to them, invade their privacy and trample every boundary - because on a subconscious level they don’t give a fuck about how you feel; it’s only ever about them.

They’re centred in their own minds at all times, hence the instant emotional blackmail if you try to stand back a bit - “but what about meeeee? Don’t you like me any more?!” It’s childlike emotional disregulation, and kind of narcissistic when you think about it.

Cut ties, OP. It’s sad but she’s not your responsibility.

GigiAnnna · 13/07/2024 12:36

I had a short lived friendship like this. She would expect me to be available for 3 hour long daily phone calls, despite having young kids and a newborn to care for. She wouldn't actually let me speak on the calls and would be her droning on about people I'd never met. Then she started sending long voice notes, having a one sided conversation with herself. I just stopped initiating conversation with her and would be abrupt in my replies, always be busy when she tried to make plans. That's not something I normally do as I respect and value my friendships, but I also need my own space and this woman was out of control to the point I couldn't take it anymore.

AffIt · 13/07/2024 12:26

maudelovesharold · 13/07/2024 12:13

It’s a pity they couldn’t have been introduced to each other!

That would have been amazing - the immovable object meets the unstoppable force. 😄

EnjoythemoneyJane · 13/07/2024 12:24

maudelovesharold · 13/07/2024 12:13

It’s a pity they couldn’t have been introduced to each other!

😂

FrenchandSaunders · 13/07/2024 12:23

Mad behaviour. I would cut ties completely. Whatever boundaries you put in place she’ll ignore so just block and forget about her.

These people are so thick skinned. My adult D has had a couple of these ‘friendships’, I was stunned when she played me their voice notes. So intense and full on.