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To like Keir Starmer?

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Emmanuelll · 09/07/2024 09:02

Unlike Tony Blair, he comes from a working class background - his siblings would still call themselves working class.

As a very bright lawyer, he could have sought a path which made him rich quickly but instead chose human rights which isn’t an easy route to take and he’s defended ‘the little guy’ against corporations. He’s also anti-death penalty.

Ok, he’s a Sir, and I’ve heard people (perhaps not unreasonably) question why the leader of the Labour Party would have a title like that. But he earned it through work for the criminal justice system.

On the face of it, it seems as though he deserves a chance.

I would much rather have him as PM than a former Bullingdon club member who used to burn money in front of homeless people for the fun of it.

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verdantverdure · 11/07/2024 00:23

Keir Starmer in the Oval Office:

To like Keir Starmer?
To like Keir Starmer?
verdantverdure · 11/07/2024 00:22

The PM of Estonia Kaja Kallas also seems delighted with Keir Starmer:

To like Keir Starmer?
HungryLittleCrocodile · 10/07/2024 23:25

AmelieTaylor · 10/07/2024 23:24

shame that we ended up with Starmer instead.

🙄

AmelieTaylor · 10/07/2024 23:24

IClaudine · 09/07/2024 10:11

What a load of crap. This is not what MN is saying at all. People are just relieved to have a capable PM at the helm who isn't either a selfish clown, an out and out lunatic or a robot who can only communicate in sound bites.

shame that we ended up with Starmer instead.

Turkeyhen · 10/07/2024 23:21

Great pics @verdantverdure - they all seem rather delighted with our new PM tbh!

verdantverdure · 10/07/2024 23:14

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 23:09

I do think it is encouraging. He seems to have got a good reception. There are probably a few countries who would like the more serious, internationally minded Britain back. If he’s representing us well that’s a great start.

keep up the pics @verdantverdure

All my algorithms seem to think I need to see pictures of Keir Starmer 😀 so I shall continue to pass them on.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/07/2024 23:13

FinalCeleryScheme · Yesterday 23:35
MrsSkylerWhite · Yesterday 23:30
If they’re smart, which I think they are, they’ll borrow to invest.

Borrowing to invest in development and infrastructure has never been frowned upon by the financial markets because it always yields returns.

Liz Truss screwed up the country’s finances and caused panic by borrowing to fund tax cuts. Which was incredibly stupid.

That sounds implausible

Forty years plus market experience. No, it isn’t.

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 23:09

I do think it is encouraging. He seems to have got a good reception. There are probably a few countries who would like the more serious, internationally minded Britain back. If he’s representing us well that’s a great start.

keep up the pics @verdantverdure

keffie12 · 10/07/2024 23:08

@Emmanuelll I love him for all the reasons you say and more. I was never a fan of Tony Blair

People who say he is boring, my response is

1/ If I want to be entertained, I'll go to the theatre. I want a polotican to be a politician and serve as he is doing.

2/ Also, he can't be that boring seeing the beautiful sassy wife he has and family. He is intelligent and genuine too

Having listened to the full disclosure broadcast with him and James O'brien, that's when all the extra dots were joined together. He is not boring

verdantverdure · 10/07/2024 23:04

Starmer front and centre on the world stage.

To like Keir Starmer?
Jellykat · 10/07/2024 22:49

YANBU i like him, hes a breath of fresh air thats for sure!

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 22:47

verdantverdure · 10/07/2024 22:43

Find yourself a NATO ally who looks at you like Macron looks at Starmer

Tbh they are all just hugely grateful that we haven’t elected a total fool and that he turns up to international events.

verdantverdure · 10/07/2024 22:43

Find yourself a NATO ally who looks at you like Macron looks at Starmer

To like Keir Starmer?
To like Keir Starmer?
Houseplanter · 10/07/2024 22:21

verdantverdure · 10/07/2024 22:19

Macron seems to like Starmer

Looks like they've stood on each others toes tbh

verdantverdure · 10/07/2024 22:19

Macron seems to like Starmer

To like Keir Starmer?
FinalCeleryScheme · 10/07/2024 17:10

EasternStandard · 10/07/2024 16:46

We follow US don’t we?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy770l9llnzo.amp

Don’t think it’s new with Starmer

Interesting. Thank you.

I’ll still credit Starmer for publicly adopting a similar stance though.

FinalCeleryScheme · 10/07/2024 16:58

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 16:52

It is all the difference in the world! No NATO country should supply weapons to Ukraine and indicate that they have some preference as to their use or infer they may be used for an attack against Russia. Dimtry Peskov would be able to make an argument about a Western directed attack against Russia and all that would mean.

That’s just wrong. Unless weapons were supplied on a positive condition for attack on Russia (they never have been and no one is suggesting they have been) all Starmer has done is confirm the absence of conditions of use - except for the circumstantially meaningless “for defence”. The legal position is completely unaffected.

foghead · 10/07/2024 16:57

TennisLady · 10/07/2024 13:03

I find it strange when people refer to him as 'boring.' Why would we need a PM that is entertaining?

Well, we probably need them to have a bit of charisma and presence as they will be on the world stage discussing and negotiating with other world leaders.

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 16:52

FinalCeleryScheme · 10/07/2024 16:48

How is that different? Nobody’s suggesting he ordered Ukraine to attack Russia with British missiles.

It is all the difference in the world! No NATO country should supply weapons to Ukraine and indicate that they have some preference as to their use or infer they may be used for an attack against Russia. Dimtry Peskov would be able to make an argument about a Western directed attack against Russia and all that would mean.

Workoutinthepark · 10/07/2024 16:51

I don't even vote labour and I love him!

FinalCeleryScheme · 10/07/2024 16:48

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 16:46

Cut! He did not say that. He said it was up to Ukraine. Big difference legally

How is that different? Nobody’s suggesting he ordered Ukraine to attack Russia with British missiles.

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 16:46

FinalCeleryScheme · 10/07/2024 16:44

I’m very pleased to see Starmer’s comments about Ukraine being free to use British missiles against targets on Russian soil. He has good instincts on Russia policy.

Cut! He did not say that. He said it was up to Ukraine. Big difference legally

EasternStandard · 10/07/2024 16:46

FinalCeleryScheme · 10/07/2024 16:44

I’m very pleased to see Starmer’s comments about Ukraine being free to use British missiles against targets on Russian soil. He has good instincts on Russia policy.

We follow US don’t we?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy770l9llnzo.amp

Don’t think it’s new with Starmer

Ukrainian soldiers use a Howitzer

Biden allows Ukraine to hit some targets in Russia with US weapons - BBC News

The US president gives Ukraine permission to use US-supplied weapons to strike targets in Russia, but only near Kharkiv.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy770l9llnzo.amp

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 16:45

verdantverdure · 10/07/2024 16:18

I do find that Only Fools and Horses Starmer/Sunak deepfake entertaining though. It's just so silly.

You don live ere no more…

FinalCeleryScheme · 10/07/2024 16:44

I’m very pleased to see Starmer’s comments about Ukraine being free to use British missiles against targets on Russian soil. He has good instincts on Russia policy.