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Being so tight with money?

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Rockrose94 · 08/07/2024 21:31

For context I have been with my boyfriend for 4 years, we live together and split the rent / bills 50/50. Our take home pay is very similar and I have an extra outgoing of my car finance which he does not. We effectively keep our finances completely separate, I worry how this will work long term as he has said he does not want to share finances at all as he has more savings.

Anyway the main issue just now is 1) he has bought me dinner once in 4 years, for my 30th birthday present. I took him on a foreign holiday and presents for his 30th. I have paid for nights away and meals for us several times when he has said he can't afford it as I wanted to treat him. I don't do this often any more as it's never been reciprocated 2) we split all food shops evenly but usually do our own meals during the week as I am dieting. He just stood for half an hour itemising up every item on the food shops over the weekend to come to the point that I owe him £2.50. Note that he will charge me half of the food we share but he would likely eat 2/3 of the meal. AIBU to be tired of this? It feels so tight , do other people itemise everything and charge their partner almost to the penny?!

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Mix56 · 13/07/2024 16:21

Take as much as you like,( up to half), towels, bedding, kitchen knives, cooking stuff, plants, garden tools,
you have paid for half & will go on to need to buy it again

beanii · 13/07/2024 16:17

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:03

I have been thinking a lot the last few days and I don't think I have been honest with myself in how much his behaviour has been affecting me. Have gained weight in the last few years as I feel constantly stressed and anxious and I now think it's been down to this relationship. Constantly trying to understand why he's acting like that and feeling like I deserve better but being told otherwise. So I don't think the next parts gonna be easy but honestly it's been mentally draining for so long that it might not be any worse than the past few months!

Well done for realising AND do something about it, that takes a LOT. I've been there - you're living with a covert narcissist. Once you see it, you wonder how you missed it.

Good luck with Sunday - the start of a new chapter in your life, not a negative thing by any means.

Keep us updated how it goes and don't be sucked in with his promise to change - I also did that, but we did have 3 children - he didn't change at all, if anything got worse.

Noseybookworm · 13/07/2024 15:51

Well done you, you're doing brilliantly! This is the tough bit but you will be through it soon and on the other side is a free and happier life! Look after yourself lovely 💐

RandomMess · 13/07/2024 15:42

When have your share of the rent until? Plus if he gave notice on Monday how long until the tenancy would end at the earliest.

Fannyfiggs · 13/07/2024 15:42

I hope all goes well for tomorrow. We're all here for support if you have a wobble or you're just feeling a bit shit.

shockthemonkey · 13/07/2024 15:08

Hi OP, best of luck for tomorrow.

As to your decision not to tell him it's his miserly behaviour that has driven you away, you're probably right... but also, if he has half a nous, or even quarter of a teensy weeny brain, he will work it out for himself. Deep down, he will know.

Whether he grows from it is his look-out and not your concern!

Needanewname42 · 13/07/2024 14:57

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:42

Will come as no surprise that all the cushions and the nicer bedding was purchased by me or moving in gifts from family so they'll be coming with. They weren't essential items obviously 😂meter readings noted definitely and speaking to letting agency Monday morning

Absolutely take them with you. And any fancy glasses or kitchen stuff.

Gingernaut · 13/07/2024 14:43

Needanewname42 · 13/07/2024 12:29

@Bishopslaurel Do you mean, extremely mean people are proud of how far they can make their money stretch, ie grapes 🍇 lasting forever.
Or proud of getting other people to pay things for them?

Both to be honest

There's a story about the late Ken Dodd bringing beer to a party, swigging spirits all night and then, because no one wanted warm cans of unpopular beer, when people were drinking glasses of cocktails and spirits, his cans were still there on the side, to take home with him

Misers are happy with getting something for nothing and only pay the bare minimum when they have no choice

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:42

MinnieGirl · 13/07/2024 14:15

Then take bedding and towels instead…. And maybe some cushions etc…
I would also take things from the freezer…. You have to eat and you’ve already paid for the food. Get as much out today as you can without him noticing.

Will come as no surprise that all the cushions and the nicer bedding was purchased by me or moving in gifts from family so they'll be coming with. They weren't essential items obviously 😂meter readings noted definitely and speaking to letting agency Monday morning

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BowlOfNoodles · 13/07/2024 14:36

This is solid advise about meter readings/bills you need to speak to the landlord to hun x

alwayslearning789 · 13/07/2024 14:29

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:08

2 years. We bought all the furniture together but honestly I couldn't care less about taking any of it. I want a clean break and I can't be bothered with the hassle so I'm just taking my own things and a few knick knacks I have bought that I would miss. I know I should fight him for half based on his behaviour but I don't think I have the energy for stuff I don't particularly want

OP I came here to type the short phrase left only for worst of situations - 'LTB'

But Thankfully the whole thread has elaborated on why you just cannot continue to live like this - and you have thankfully seen the light from your own reassessment of your extensive unfortunate experiences quibbling over £2.50 and extra sips of wine if you even dared to!

Some of us had to learn from bitter experience with children in tow, would never wish it on any young lady to go through that and advise you to leave Now.

All the Best of Wishes for a lighter life living away from this absolute misery of a miser.

BIossomtoes · 13/07/2024 14:28

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:08

2 years. We bought all the furniture together but honestly I couldn't care less about taking any of it. I want a clean break and I can't be bothered with the hassle so I'm just taking my own things and a few knick knacks I have bought that I would miss. I know I should fight him for half based on his behaviour but I don't think I have the energy for stuff I don't particularly want

Sensible. Don’t take baggage from this relationship into the future. Walk away with only the things you want and put it behind you. It’s only stuff.

Needanewname42 · 13/07/2024 14:21

MinnieGirl · 13/07/2024 14:15

Then take bedding and towels instead…. And maybe some cushions etc…
I would also take things from the freezer…. You have to eat and you’ve already paid for the food. Get as much out today as you can without him noticing.

I was thinking similar, take kitchen stuff, pots, plates etc stuff that is easy to store until you have a new place but is expensive to buy.

OnlyHasEyesForLoki · 13/07/2024 14:18

Rockrose94 · 09/07/2024 11:18

You're right. I have been reading through my posts as I'm honestly wondering maybe I haven't been honest with what I've said but he has done all of these things and it's not in my head. I also don't think I'd trust that he would change long term even if he does make a change after an ultimatum so what is the point. I'm 30 and want to get married so can't afford to waste more time with a man who would probably make me pay 50/50 for my engagement ring if he ever did propose (as I honestly can't imagine him actually buying me one!)

I was with a man like that. He wouldn’t buy me an engagement ring because it was a “waste of money” & I got so sick of people asking I bought myself one from Argos. After we were married it we went out for dinner he would split the bill to the penny (& like yours eat half my dinner) so I said let’s just take it in turns to avoid the hassle. He then accused me of choosing more expensive places or dishes when it was his turn to pay. We paid half into a domestic account for bills and the final straw was when he said he “paid” me to shop, cook and clean” for him and when I asked him to go to Tesco 24 hours after I gave birth to our baby said I was “taking the piss”. Reader, divorced him. OP - run for the hills now!

MinnieGirl · 13/07/2024 14:17

RandomMess · 13/07/2024 14:14

Leave him your half of the stuff (you don't want) in lieu of your share of the rent.

Ensure all the utility bills are moved into his name before you tell him. Tell them you have moved out and he is still there as sole occupant.

And take meter readings…
Actually, if he’s away today I would just move out. Then leave a note. Much easier as he simply won’t accept he’s been unreasonable and why put yourself through that? Take everything you want empty the freezer and go.

MinnieGirl · 13/07/2024 14:15

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:08

2 years. We bought all the furniture together but honestly I couldn't care less about taking any of it. I want a clean break and I can't be bothered with the hassle so I'm just taking my own things and a few knick knacks I have bought that I would miss. I know I should fight him for half based on his behaviour but I don't think I have the energy for stuff I don't particularly want

Then take bedding and towels instead…. And maybe some cushions etc…
I would also take things from the freezer…. You have to eat and you’ve already paid for the food. Get as much out today as you can without him noticing.

RandomMess · 13/07/2024 14:14

Leave him your half of the stuff (you don't want) in lieu of your share of the rent.

Ensure all the utility bills are moved into his name before you tell him. Tell them you have moved out and he is still there as sole occupant.

LittleGreenDragons · 13/07/2024 14:10

Good luck OP. I'm sure the relief after you have left will be enormous. The release of stress can trigger ill health so take great care to look after yourself. Decent food, water and sleep should be high on your list.

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:08

lalalapland · 13/07/2024 14:05

How long have you been living together? Is it going to be tricky to split belongings or are they entirely separate?

I hope it’s not too stressful, he could make it quite difficult for you by counting the tea spoons when you are packing!

2 years. We bought all the furniture together but honestly I couldn't care less about taking any of it. I want a clean break and I can't be bothered with the hassle so I'm just taking my own things and a few knick knacks I have bought that I would miss. I know I should fight him for half based on his behaviour but I don't think I have the energy for stuff I don't particularly want

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lalalapland · 13/07/2024 14:05

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:03

I have been thinking a lot the last few days and I don't think I have been honest with myself in how much his behaviour has been affecting me. Have gained weight in the last few years as I feel constantly stressed and anxious and I now think it's been down to this relationship. Constantly trying to understand why he's acting like that and feeling like I deserve better but being told otherwise. So I don't think the next parts gonna be easy but honestly it's been mentally draining for so long that it might not be any worse than the past few months!

How long have you been living together? Is it going to be tricky to split belongings or are they entirely separate?

I hope it’s not too stressful, he could make it quite difficult for you by counting the tea spoons when you are packing!

Rockrose94 · 13/07/2024 14:03

I have been thinking a lot the last few days and I don't think I have been honest with myself in how much his behaviour has been affecting me. Have gained weight in the last few years as I feel constantly stressed and anxious and I now think it's been down to this relationship. Constantly trying to understand why he's acting like that and feeling like I deserve better but being told otherwise. So I don't think the next parts gonna be easy but honestly it's been mentally draining for so long that it might not be any worse than the past few months!

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LittleGreenDragons · 13/07/2024 13:57

AmandaHoldensLips · 13/07/2024 08:57

If he asks why you're leaving, tell him you don't owe him an explanation, but you do owe him £2.50.

Maybe then he'll work it out for himself...

I know I shouldn't laugh...

😂😂😂

Needanewname42 · 13/07/2024 13:52

@Venice241
Mean people are obsessed with coming out ahead in EVERY single situation.
It consumes them.

Wow! You have managed to sum up the meanest person I have ever come across. Totally Bazaar.
They seem totally miserable as well as being mean. Your totally right about always wanting to appear on top. I can't say much about the relationship between them and partner but it's weird!

Op sorry for taking your thread off on a tangent. Hope you are getting on OK packing stuff.

lalalapland · 13/07/2024 13:36

Definitely sounds like leaving is the right decision. This guy won’t change.

go find yourself someone who will watch as you empty your wine glass so he can top it up for you! Or enjoy a bottle to yourself without having to split the cost!

Good luck

lalalapland · 13/07/2024 13:31

Rockrose94 · 10/07/2024 20:18

Actually he has complained about me putting too much water in the kettle too and have to make sure I only fill up enough for 1 mug 😂but will happily sit blasting a heater in his office for hours to keep himself warm. Oh its exhausting! Onwards and upwards

My ex used to moan at me for this. He was not quite like your partner in other ways but it used to piss me off so much. Still to this day I fill the kettle full just to prove to myself I don’t need to put up with shit like that