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To not look at this couple in the same way anymore?

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AvrilAprill · 07/07/2024 23:17

At the end of last year I made friends with a mum who’d just moved to the area. We got on great, as did our partners.

However, I’ve now found out that they first got together when she was 16 and he was 20/21. It genuinely makes me feel uncomfortable knowing that, and my husband says I’m being weird

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BeckyBoo1224 · 10/07/2024 11:37

You're being very strange about something that has absolutely nothing to do with you.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 10/07/2024 11:35

Caerulea · 09/07/2024 14:47

One year is nothing once you're in your 20's, very little changes at that point. By my age (46) 10 years is nothing, so little changes that isn't down to gravity or natural aging.

But even at 19 I'd be DEEPLY uncomfortable at my son coming home with a 16yo girlf. My 15yo will be 16 next year & if he brings home a 19yo bf I would intervene. There are huge changes in those few years, it's still a significant proportion of their lived lives.

As a rule - young people do not agree with you now so why are a bunch of adults, here, trying to say it's fine? They are making these boundaries themselves.

16 and 19 could both be 6th Form Students!
They could be in the same common room, the same lunchtimes, the same drama performances.
Or even be in college together, so no "school" to worry about

KimberleyClark · 10/07/2024 11:35

Isthisasgoodasitis · 10/07/2024 11:18

Really? You would hate me then as there’s 17 years between my husband and I with our oldest 34 our youngest 3 the difference between our ages is irrelevant to us and our friends

How old were you when you met? If you were 17 and he was 34....

Isthisasgoodasitis · 10/07/2024 11:18

AvrilAprill · 07/07/2024 23:17

At the end of last year I made friends with a mum who’d just moved to the area. We got on great, as did our partners.

However, I’ve now found out that they first got together when she was 16 and he was 20/21. It genuinely makes me feel uncomfortable knowing that, and my husband says I’m being weird

Really? You would hate me then as there’s 17 years between my husband and I with our oldest 34 our youngest 3 the difference between our ages is irrelevant to us and our friends

DecoratingDiva · 10/07/2024 11:17

For me it would depend on how old they are now.

if they got together when she was still at school and he was working then I’d find that creepy but if they are of an age where she had left school and was working when they met then it is not the same.

ContentSolitudinarian · 10/07/2024 09:05

Uricon2 · 09/07/2024 17:02

This. People "intervening" when their 16 year old dates a 19 year old (as above) are asking for a replay of Romeo and Juliet with Whatsapp (mind you, that could have been handy in the original version)

Tell teenagers not to do something really self destructive, they may or may not listen, based on the strength of your arguments or the way the wind is blowing. Tell them not to do something because you have a weird, weird idea of what constitutes inappropriate, forget it. They'll choose the BF/GF every time.

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They so will. My mother: "You must be home no later than 10pm." Me: "OK then" - moves in with said boyfriend, no curfew. I was 17.5.

LoyalMember · 10/07/2024 08:48

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 09/07/2024 15:47

"You believe that if it makes you happy, Jane,"

LMFAO 🤣

Uricon2 · 09/07/2024 17:02

Walkaround · 09/07/2024 16:54

I’m not surprised this generation of 16-year olds have the poorest mental health in history, with parents who apparently think in black and white, paranoid extremes and stereotypes and who control their children’s real life interractions in overbearing, oppressive ways (whilst dismally failing to put controls on their virtual, fantasy lives).

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This. People "intervening" when their 16 year old dates a 19 year old (as above) are asking for a replay of Romeo and Juliet with Whatsapp (mind you, that could have been handy in the original version)

Tell teenagers not to do something really self destructive, they may or may not listen, based on the strength of your arguments or the way the wind is blowing. Tell them not to do something because you have a weird, weird idea of what constitutes inappropriate, forget it. They'll choose the BF/GF every time.

Walkaround · 09/07/2024 16:54

I’m not surprised this generation of 16-year olds have the poorest mental health in history, with parents who apparently think in black and white, paranoid extremes and stereotypes and who control their children’s real life interractions in overbearing, oppressive ways (whilst dismally failing to put controls on their virtual, fantasy lives).

HungryLittleCrocodile · 09/07/2024 16:18

Caerulea · Today 14:47

One year is nothing once you're in your 20's, very little changes at that point. By my age (46) 10 years is nothing, so little changes that isn't down to gravity or natural aging.

But even at 19 I'd be DEEPLY uncomfortable at my son coming home with a 16yo girlf. My 15yo will be 16 next year & if he brings home a 19yo bf I would intervene.

Good grief! 😂

HungryLittleCrocodile · 09/07/2024 16:16

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 09/07/2024 15:47

"You believe that if it makes you happy, Jane,"

😂

godmum56 · 09/07/2024 16:14

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 09/07/2024 15:47

"You believe that if it makes you happy, Jane,"

😂

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 09/07/2024 15:47

HalfwayToHell · 08/07/2024 00:03

My son is almost 21. He'd be disgusted at the thought of dating a 16 year old, so would we at that age.

"You believe that if it makes you happy, Jane,"

godmum56 · 09/07/2024 15:35

Caerulea · 09/07/2024 14:47

One year is nothing once you're in your 20's, very little changes at that point. By my age (46) 10 years is nothing, so little changes that isn't down to gravity or natural aging.

But even at 19 I'd be DEEPLY uncomfortable at my son coming home with a 16yo girlf. My 15yo will be 16 next year & if he brings home a 19yo bf I would intervene. There are huge changes in those few years, it's still a significant proportion of their lived lives.

As a rule - young people do not agree with you now so why are a bunch of adults, here, trying to say it's fine? They are making these boundaries themselves.

if the young people are making those boundaries themselves and not being pressurised into it by their year group then surely the problem goes away because they won't do it?

CatrionaBalfour · 09/07/2024 15:32

I know, how silly.

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 09/07/2024 15:27

Caerulea · 09/07/2024 14:47

One year is nothing once you're in your 20's, very little changes at that point. By my age (46) 10 years is nothing, so little changes that isn't down to gravity or natural aging.

But even at 19 I'd be DEEPLY uncomfortable at my son coming home with a 16yo girlf. My 15yo will be 16 next year & if he brings home a 19yo bf I would intervene. There are huge changes in those few years, it's still a significant proportion of their lived lives.

As a rule - young people do not agree with you now so why are a bunch of adults, here, trying to say it's fine? They are making these boundaries themselves.

And trying to intervene in teenage relationships is the quickest way to push them closer to each other. Far better to be welcoming and supportive, as well as watchful.

My son is nearly 19, but has only just left secondary school. He is only be two academic years ahead of a lot of 15 and 16 year olds.

Personally, I think it is pretty grim to tarnish all late teens as predators for the pretty normal way a lot of them meet their first boy/girl friends, as siblings of their mates.

CaptainOliviaBenson · 09/07/2024 14:53

Caerulea · 09/07/2024 14:47

One year is nothing once you're in your 20's, very little changes at that point. By my age (46) 10 years is nothing, so little changes that isn't down to gravity or natural aging.

But even at 19 I'd be DEEPLY uncomfortable at my son coming home with a 16yo girlf. My 15yo will be 16 next year & if he brings home a 19yo bf I would intervene. There are huge changes in those few years, it's still a significant proportion of their lived lives.

As a rule - young people do not agree with you now so why are a bunch of adults, here, trying to say it's fine? They are making these boundaries themselves.

All young people? My young people (21 and 17) don't see a problem with it. If one year is a big difference in your teens then I guess a 19 year old and a 20 year old is also problematic? A 19 year old and an 18 year old? A 17 year old and a 16 year old?

Caerulea · 09/07/2024 14:47

CaptainOliviaBenson · 09/07/2024 14:21

We're not talking about interracial relationships here, or same sex ones, this is about adult men in relationships with teens.

@Caerulea but we're talking about "men" 1 year out of their teens! Would it be seen as predatory and awful if the "man" was 19? It's literally one year!

One year is nothing once you're in your 20's, very little changes at that point. By my age (46) 10 years is nothing, so little changes that isn't down to gravity or natural aging.

But even at 19 I'd be DEEPLY uncomfortable at my son coming home with a 16yo girlf. My 15yo will be 16 next year & if he brings home a 19yo bf I would intervene. There are huge changes in those few years, it's still a significant proportion of their lived lives.

As a rule - young people do not agree with you now so why are a bunch of adults, here, trying to say it's fine? They are making these boundaries themselves.

LordPercyPercy · 09/07/2024 14:26

I should clarify, btw, that I don't think everyone is necessarily ready for a sexual relationship at age 16. People's brains mature at different speeds.

CaptainOliviaBenson · 09/07/2024 14:21

We're not talking about interracial relationships here, or same sex ones, this is about adult men in relationships with teens.

@Caerulea but we're talking about "men" 1 year out of their teens! Would it be seen as predatory and awful if the "man" was 19? It's literally one year!

CaptainOliviaBenson · 09/07/2024 14:14

FlowerHandle · 09/07/2024 05:46

As an aside I think it’s wrong to confuse trauma and adverse life experiences with ‘maturity’. People who were kicked out of home etc at 16 are not necessarily mature. They have had to cope with trauma and learned to go it alone.

Unless you are pursuing some kind of sporting/musical career or have parents in the military or other unusual circumstances, moving out at 16 is not usuall. It suggests problems at home. I don’t think it means that someone is emotionally mature. I mention that as living alone at 16 is often used as an example of ‘maturity’ when it is not the case.

That may well be true for some who left home at 16. It wasn't for me. I had a happy childhood, 2 parents, and a sister, all normal and very boring. I left home because I wanted to be independent. I've always hated being told what to do, at home, there were (reasonable) rules, like a curfew and no boyfriends upstairs etc. I hated that I couldn't do what I liked. So, when I'd done my GCSEs, I got a full-time job and moved into a flatshare with 3 of my friends. My parents weren't happy about it but didn't stop me. And the option to come home was always there.

Jeschara · 09/07/2024 14:10

Do your friend a favour and end the friendship. You are horrible and judgemental, even your own husband thinks you are being weird.
Not everyone is the same.
You are just hard work.

Caerulea · 09/07/2024 14:03

HungryLittleCrocodile · 09/07/2024 13:37

Exactly this.

Strawman - I didn't say it was illegal. Argue the points I made or nothing at all. If the legal age was still 12, 13 would you still argue this? Were young people more mature 200 years ago?

The age limit is a convenient argument for what is a debate about appropriate relationships. The law is a hard rule, society should use morals to guide it within that framework. Young people of the same age would not be criminalised for sex before that age, they aren't waiting till they are 16. The law is to protect them from predatory adults &, imo, it doesn't do that with a limit of 16.

Should you move to a country where the limit is lower & your 13yo became involved with an adult man, you'd brush it off as 'oh but it's legal so, meh'? No, you wouldn't.

Willyoubuymeahouseofgold · 09/07/2024 13:44

None of your business really . I doubt she'd want you as a friend of she thought you were posting this.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 09/07/2024 13:37

CaptainOliviaBenson · 09/07/2024 00:29

So WHAT if you did it? If your parents, grandparents, cousins did it? So what if 'it was OK back-in-the-day'? LOTS of things were 'ok back-in-the-day' that are outright illegal now!

Lots of you are talking about a time when it was illegal to be gay, ok to rape your wife, fine too exclude someone based on their race & yes, for men to exploit young girls in both sex & marriage. Exploit!!

@Caerulea I hate to break it to you, but there's absolutely nothing illegal going on with a 16 year old and 20 year old. As much as you may hate it, the age of consent is 16, not 22!

Exactly this.