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To not look at this couple in the same way anymore?

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AvrilAprill · 07/07/2024 23:17

At the end of last year I made friends with a mum who’d just moved to the area. We got on great, as did our partners.

However, I’ve now found out that they first got together when she was 16 and he was 20/21. It genuinely makes me feel uncomfortable knowing that, and my husband says I’m being weird

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Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 08/07/2024 01:17

Bluebirdover · 08/07/2024 01:15

@Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingServmy point was it should not be judged on age alone.

No, I realise that - and I agree; but I do believe that age IS a very important limiting factor, nonetheless.

Itisjustmyopinion · 08/07/2024 01:16

AvrilAprill · 08/07/2024 00:45

Thanks, I don’t have an issue with her but him .. I just find it creepy.

And again reading the replies on here are people that are a different generation.

What generation are you talking about? I am mid 40s and I think you are being ridiculous

Bluebirdover · 08/07/2024 01:15

@Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingServmy point was it should not be judged on age alone.

HalfwayToHell · 08/07/2024 01:14

No, they wouldn't

Yes, they would. By anyone with decent morals.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 08/07/2024 01:13

Bluebirdover · 08/07/2024 01:01

It's not your choice.

So you define by age alone?

I'd be happy if my daughter was with a nice, kind, respectful 20 year old.

I'd be unhappy if she was with a horrible, rude, nasty 15 year old!

Why does it have to be one or the other?

Could you not hope that your DD might find a decent, pleasant boy/man who also was around her own age?

I know a lot of lovely, kind teenagers and elderly people - and I happily socialise with them at family/community gatherings - but if I weren't already married, I still wouldn't remotely be considering them as partners, however lovely they are.

Chartreux · 08/07/2024 01:11

Shan5474 · 08/07/2024 00:42

Personally I think it’s weird. When I was 20 I viewed 16 year olds as children. My body changed a lot between 16 and 20, and my face started to look like an adult. The fact that they’re still together and this was presumably a while ago makes it ok but if my daughter were 16 I’d be wondering why a 20 year old couldn’t get a woman his own age

I don't think your experience is comparable, simply because girls mature so much more quickly than boys. For a 20 year old woman the gap with 16 year old boys feels at least a couple of years wider, but a 20 year old man may well be at the level of a 16-17 year old girl in terms of maturity.

TinklySnail · 08/07/2024 01:07

I am a 🦕 and I understand what you say to some degree.
I think it really depends on the individuals, as someone else said, they may be on the same page maturity wise. They are in a stable relationship so I think it harsh to hold this against them as you’ve said how nice they are.
Times change, and it may not have been a big deal back then.
Don't make her feel awful about it now.

Chartreux · 08/07/2024 01:07

HalfwayToHell · 08/07/2024 00:39

Oh dear. I was 17 and my husband was 25 when we started dating. He was my first and only boyfriend - a good man and a kind and caring husband for forty years until he died six years ago. We were inseparable almost from the start and didn’t think anything of the age gap - neither did our parents. How times change !!

Yes, times have changed for the better. A 21 year old interested in a 17 year old now would rightfully be looked at with disgust.

No, they wouldn't.

MustBeGinOclock · 08/07/2024 01:07

You are being v weird op

Chartreux · 08/07/2024 01:06

AvrilAprill · 08/07/2024 00:38

I think I’m talking to the wrong generation or people that are defensive, because it’s weird for a 20 or 21 year old to be dating a girl in secondary school.

It wasn’t that long ago that online and in news that there were articles about Billie Eilish’s controversial relationship because she was 21 and he was 31 and they’d known each other when she was 15.

Is she still in secondary school? Surely all 16 year olds have left by now, unless they're staying on in the same school for A levels and other qualifications in which case your criticism really doesn't apply.

There's an obvious difference between a 15 and 16 year old, in the shape of the age of consent coming into play.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 08/07/2024 01:05

Luminousalumnus · 08/07/2024 00:42

In all my years of living, I don't think I have ever met a 20 year old 'grown man'. They are all immature idiots with no more sense than 16 year old girls. If we waited until we sensible mature and well matched we would all be virgins pretty much for ever. An arbitrary age has been decided on... it's all fine.

So you don't find it at all odd when men leer at older schoolgirls, maybe give them a wolf-whistle, stop the car to chat to them, pay them a compliment or two?

Presumably they're just understanding the difference in maturity levels between males and females and so not wasting time pointlessly going after women their own age, when they know they should really be looking for younger girls?

Would it make more sense to keep the age of consent at 16 for males - to protect them in their relative immaturity - but maybe reduce it by two or three years for females, to take account of their earlier maturity and that they can obviously handle it; and that it's apparently not at all strange for immature men in their 20s to be wanting to partner up with them?

Bluebirdover · 08/07/2024 01:04

@No33 what a powerful argument! 🙄

Chartreux · 08/07/2024 01:02

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Why on earth is it gross that the person concerned got together with her husband when she was 23 and he was 31, even if she did happen to know him briefly when she was younger? You really are very weird, OP.

WhatsUpNowThen · 08/07/2024 01:02

Why is a 23 year old man having any kind of relationship with a 15 year old he’s not related to?

Wouldn't it be worse if he was related?

IamaRevenant · 08/07/2024 01:02

My sister got with my BIL when she was 16 and he was 26. My parents left her yo live with him in another country 🙈

Tbf they're still together and happy(ish) but jesus. It's fecking weird and I understand your feelings OP.

No33 · 08/07/2024 01:01

Bluebirdover · 08/07/2024 01:01

It's not your choice.

So you define by age alone?

I'd be happy if my daughter was with a nice, kind, respectful 20 year old.

I'd be unhappy if she was with a horrible, rude, nasty 15 year old!

🙄

Savemydrink · 08/07/2024 01:01

I’m surprised they want to be friends with you. No laws have been broken, they are happy together if you don’t like it, that’s your problem.

Bluebirdover · 08/07/2024 01:01

No33 · 08/07/2024 00:55

I am shocked at the replies on this thread.

I would not be happy with my 16 yo daughter dating a 20 year old man.

It's not your choice.

So you define by age alone?

I'd be happy if my daughter was with a nice, kind, respectful 20 year old.

I'd be unhappy if she was with a horrible, rude, nasty 15 year old!

WhatsUpNowThen · 08/07/2024 01:00

God knows I had left school and was working full time at 16

I think that might make a huge difference in people's concepts in today's apparent idea that 18 year olds are still children. I had my first full time job at an insurance company age 15 and worked for them for 15 years. I got myself a bedsit aged 16 and paid rent. I was a happy and fully functioning adult who could and did take care of myself. My parents were present and supportive.
(not financially, they were pretty poor and missed the few quid board I'd paid them) but at 16, in those days, I was an autonomous grown up. I was self sufficient. They brought me up that way. Good on them. It's served me well.

CyanideShake · 08/07/2024 00:58

No33 · 08/07/2024 00:55

I am shocked at the replies on this thread.

I would not be happy with my 16 yo daughter dating a 20 year old man.

You don't have to be. That's not the scenario. If you met a couple as in the OP would you feel the need to hand wring over continuing an acquaintance?

Bluebirdover · 08/07/2024 00:56

You are being weird!

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 08/07/2024 00:56

If a man in his 20s (or older) is interested sexually in a 16yo girl, it does make you wonder if he would be disgusted at the idea of a 15yo, or 14, or maybe 13. Where would his cut-off be?

It's a completely different dynamic from two children aged 16/17 who have arrived at that certain stage of development at the same time.

No33 · 08/07/2024 00:55

I am shocked at the replies on this thread.

I would not be happy with my 16 yo daughter dating a 20 year old man.

Mothership4two · 08/07/2024 00:55

Also, not knowing someone’s age isn’t a defence.

Well they don't need a defence, but you are the one talking about it being a different generation viewpoint.

I am not in the least defensive. I think people are trying to show you a different point of view through their experiences

Floralnomad · 08/07/2024 00:55

AvrilAprill · 08/07/2024 00:48

She was in school.

Also, not knowing someone’s age isn’t a defence.

Isn’t a defence to what ?