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To take dd to A&E or wait to see GP

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Dewdrops1 · 07/07/2024 15:21

Hi all?

I know you can’t diagnose on here but concerned I may be wasting A&Es precious resources instead of waiting to see GP tomorrow.

we’ve just come back from holiday in Europe. 2 days ago DD who is teenager woke with a big egg sized lump on one side of forehead. No injury. She said she did squeeze a spot gently but not sure if that did it. Nothing obvious seen other than swelling. Yesterday the lump went down but the swelling spread to center of forehead and in between eyes and top of nose. The swelling has ‘flattened’ out but over a larger area and makes her forehead look slightly distorted. There’s no redness but is slightly warm to touch and tender. Dd said it’s giving her a slight headache and uncomfortable feeling.

Im worried it could be some sort of infection and it’s going near her eyes, or could it be a bug bite and I’m overthinking. So would you take her to A&E or go to GP tomorrow? The swelling isn’t massive but never experienced swelling spreading on forehead like that before (moved away from original lump) so not sure if it’s something I need to be concerned about (also nothing similar on google).

thanks for your advice in advance 🙂

OP posts:
ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 07/07/2024 21:37

Glad to see your update OP. Hope your DD is on the mend soon

OnGoldenPond · 07/07/2024 21:35

DeerOhDear · 07/07/2024 21:18

@Dewdrops1 @Janiie

I know this is a really serious matter and I personally definitely err on the side of caution esp as pp have said.

It's such a worry op and an unknown.
Hopefully the antibiotics will start to work by morning.

However... Janiie comment made me laugh out loud and I had missed the frog eye and drilling into sockets 😂👁️🐸.
Poor op!

Hopefully it's giving you a little laugh op 😂🐸

Glad it gave you a laugh. Guess it is funny if it doesn't happen to you.Hopefully it won't happen to OP's DD. But if it does she needs to know what to do so it doesn't get to the point of having to drill into eye sockets.

stichguru · 07/07/2024 21:35

To be fair I had a little cyst on my neck - about the size of my baby finger nail. It never caused any problem, until one day it got infected and went huge and red and pussy. Went to GP who said it was infected and he wanted to remove it, not while the infection was there, so gave me anti-biotics and told me to come back after the infection was gone. The infection went and it eventually shrank back and then popped, never had any troubles with it again!

DeerOhDear · 07/07/2024 21:35

@Dewdrops1 😂😂😂.

Well you kmow what it could be and what to do.

Personally I think it's better to have some small idea of a range of things and be able to ask docs stuff if you do need a and e with her

Avarcas · 07/07/2024 21:34

Janiie · 07/07/2024 20:14

Honestly so much scaremongering.

She has seen a Doctor. There are no signs of infection which as a nurse surely you know would be redness, hot to touch and a temp?

Everyone does not need to go to A&E. It's why there's 10hr plus waits because people flap and dash there willy nilly.

Which part of she is a paediatric nurse did you not understand? What are your qualifications to tell someone they do not need to go to A&E?

DeerOhDear · 07/07/2024 21:32

@Janiie @OnGoldenPond

Gp are general practitioners, they can't hold everything in their brain.

The whole sepsis campaign is about aksing care givers . Is this sepsis to remind any care givers of checking for it.

It's important to share stuff, it really is, there are conditions I've never heard of until mn like cellulitis and now puts putty tumour.

Dewdrops1 · 07/07/2024 21:30

DeerOhDear · 07/07/2024 21:18

@Dewdrops1 @Janiie

I know this is a really serious matter and I personally definitely err on the side of caution esp as pp have said.

It's such a worry op and an unknown.
Hopefully the antibiotics will start to work by morning.

However... Janiie comment made me laugh out loud and I had missed the frog eye and drilling into sockets 😂👁️🐸.
Poor op!

Hopefully it's giving you a little laugh op 😂🐸

It certainly has @DeerOhDear ☺️
Theres been a WIDE range of opinions and experiences, from putting germaline on it to eye drilling 😬 Thank goodness I’m a level headed person (most of the time!)
Everyone has been so helpful though 💐

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Otherstories2002 · 07/07/2024 21:20

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Oh I’d be off to hospital with that.

DeerOhDear · 07/07/2024 21:18

@Dewdrops1 @Janiie

I know this is a really serious matter and I personally definitely err on the side of caution esp as pp have said.

It's such a worry op and an unknown.
Hopefully the antibiotics will start to work by morning.

However... Janiie comment made me laugh out loud and I had missed the frog eye and drilling into sockets 😂👁️🐸.
Poor op!

Hopefully it's giving you a little laugh op 😂🐸

Wheresthebeach · 07/07/2024 21:14

That’s a good, strong antibiotic prescription. I think the GP is taking it seriously even though there isn’t a clear cause. Sounds sensible but as others have said any change, heat, redness or fever and I’d head to A&E

OnGoldenPond · 07/07/2024 21:05

@Janiie why inappropriate? It was a classic case of orbital cellulitis which can very quickly develop from an infection near the eyes. The OP has said in latest updates that the swelling is now very close to the eyes. In DS 's case it is thought it developed from an insect bite.

I am passing on my experience in the hope that if the OP's DD is unlucky enough to get similar symptoms she will know immediately what to do and can avoid the distress my poor DS suffered. I do not need your permission to do this. You are not the thread police.

LlamaDuke · 07/07/2024 21:01

Flucloxicillin is a strong antibiotic and I've had it myself for cellulitis, so it sounds like the GP is taking a cautious approach. But as others have said, keep an eye on it and review the situation tomorrow.

Firefly1987 · 07/07/2024 20:57

In a similar situation with my mum right now-she has an abscess. We are waiting for an out of hours GP as she said she couldn't face sitting in A&E for hours. She did that on Friday but wasn't as bad then. Doctor was going to prescribe antibiotics then but changed his mind in the end. But it's worse today.

We rang 111 and had an option of various urgent care/walk in centres but would that be any quicker and better than A&E? Wouldn't they send you down to A&E anyway? Out of hours doctor is going to be 6 hours estimate.

user1471538275 · 07/07/2024 20:56

@viques I see us more as people walking around with a sandwich board which declares 'Doom, doom, you are all doomed'

Silviasilvertoes · 07/07/2024 20:50

Very random thought, but is there any chance it could have been triggered by an insect bite abroad? That first photo looks like insect bites I’ve had and reacted to in the past - I’m ridiculously sensitive to bites.

Janiie · 07/07/2024 20:47

OnGoldenPond · 07/07/2024 20:45

@Janiie I just want the OP to realise how serious this can be. And why sometimes doctors don't take things as seriously as they should. There wouldn't have been any screaming in pain if he had been treated appropriately in the first place.

Anything can be serious. There aren't any worrying signs, if anything changes the op will seek further advice. Your descriptions of eyes popping out and screaming are totally inappropriate.

DampSquid · 07/07/2024 20:47

That prescription is identical to the one I was given for cellulitis last year op, so the gp seems to be covering their bases

Ems1992 · 07/07/2024 20:46

Dewdrops1 · 07/07/2024 20:40

The swelling is more between her eyes now and not as obvious on her forehead so perhaps that’s why she wasn’t as concerned?I just don’t understand how it’s moved from that lump on top of forehead to between her eyes and eyebrows. I did show the doctor the photos how it’s progressed in 2 days. I just don’t see how a cyst can just appear within a few hours and then burst overnight like that with no pain? I will monitor tonight and take straight to a&e if any worse. She’s been given flucloxacillin 500mg 4 times a day for 7 days.

This EXACT thing happened to my husband
he had a small spot, I gave him some elemis to put on it and it “drew” the fluid to the top so he popped it and the fluid remained under the skin and spread just like this. It spread across the forehead, then down into the eyes the next day and eventually just drained out itself. He went to A&E, they gave him some antibiotic cream and also said it was a cyst. It cleared up within a week or so but for the first few days he looked so swollen in his face it was like he’d had an allergic reaction!

OnGoldenPond · 07/07/2024 20:45

@Janiie I just want the OP to realise how serious this can be. And why sometimes doctors don't take things as seriously as they should. There wouldn't have been any screaming in pain if he had been treated appropriately in the first place.

3luckystars · 07/07/2024 20:45

I thought it was called ‘the triangle of sadness’ because of the lines and wrinkles on your forehead.

There is a hilarious and totally unforgettable crazy movie called the ‘triangle of sadness’
that is worth a watch. It’s MAD!!

Janiie · 07/07/2024 20:44

WitsEnd10 · 07/07/2024 20:29

A&E now. There’s a reason that area of the head is referred to as the ‘triangle of death’.

Grin

<you are joking i hope >

Seriously op, cysts burst the fluid migrates hence bumps change and spread. As you say keep a close eye and any pain or whatever ring 111.

123letsblaze · 07/07/2024 20:42

WitsEnd10 · 07/07/2024 20:29

A&E now. There’s a reason that area of the head is referred to as the ‘triangle of death’.

wtf. It doesn't include the forehead.

123letsblaze · 07/07/2024 20:40

viques · 07/07/2024 20:34

Blimey, I think some of the posters on here must be the descendants of the toothless old tricoteuse who sat and knitted next to the guillotine! Talk about having a half glass empty mindset!

Yes it's a barrel of laughs and positivity on here!

Dewdrops1 · 07/07/2024 20:40

The swelling is more between her eyes now and not as obvious on her forehead so perhaps that’s why she wasn’t as concerned?I just don’t understand how it’s moved from that lump on top of forehead to between her eyes and eyebrows. I did show the doctor the photos how it’s progressed in 2 days. I just don’t see how a cyst can just appear within a few hours and then burst overnight like that with no pain? I will monitor tonight and take straight to a&e if any worse. She’s been given flucloxacillin 500mg 4 times a day for 7 days.

OP posts:
Silviasilvertoes · 07/07/2024 20:35

viques · 07/07/2024 20:34

Blimey, I think some of the posters on here must be the descendants of the toothless old tricoteuse who sat and knitted next to the guillotine! Talk about having a half glass empty mindset!

😂