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To take dd to A&E or wait to see GP

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Dewdrops1 · 07/07/2024 15:21

Hi all?

I know you can’t diagnose on here but concerned I may be wasting A&Es precious resources instead of waiting to see GP tomorrow.

we’ve just come back from holiday in Europe. 2 days ago DD who is teenager woke with a big egg sized lump on one side of forehead. No injury. She said she did squeeze a spot gently but not sure if that did it. Nothing obvious seen other than swelling. Yesterday the lump went down but the swelling spread to center of forehead and in between eyes and top of nose. The swelling has ‘flattened’ out but over a larger area and makes her forehead look slightly distorted. There’s no redness but is slightly warm to touch and tender. Dd said it’s giving her a slight headache and uncomfortable feeling.

Im worried it could be some sort of infection and it’s going near her eyes, or could it be a bug bite and I’m overthinking. So would you take her to A&E or go to GP tomorrow? The swelling isn’t massive but never experienced swelling spreading on forehead like that before (moved away from original lump) so not sure if it’s something I need to be concerned about (also nothing similar on google).

thanks for your advice in advance 🙂

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LadyBug2022 · 16/07/2024 12:06

dewdrops - google bulls eye rash. If it looks anything like that, even non typical then get online quick before going to gp, so that you know what to ask for. Do not be fobbed off with ringworm .

llizzie · 14/07/2024 03:09

ScottishWoman

The same thing happened to my son, about the same age. He was at kindergarten and went to the loo. When he came back he tripped and fell and banged his head on the door. The teacher told us when we went to collect him. The following day he had swelled beyond recognising. My friend asked if it was someone visiting. It was so alarming we took him to the hospital. I was nursing there at the time. They had him walking and running to see if that was why he tripped. The hospital spoke to the school about it. My GP gave him pills for bruising. It took a week for the bruising to go. For weeks, every time he tripped, or they thought he did, he would come home with a bandage around his head.

MissingKitty · 13/07/2024 19:39

Laurmolonlabe · 13/07/2024 18:35

Could be a tick bite-I'd take her to A&E lyme disease can be serious, tell them where you went.

The threads a week old so it’s safe to say it’s worth looking at the updates before posting

Laurmolonlabe · 13/07/2024 18:35

Could be a tick bite-I'd take her to A&E lyme disease can be serious, tell them where you went.

ScottishWoman · 13/07/2024 17:54

Hey @Dewdrops1 firstly how scary for you. I hope it genuinely is nothing to be concerned about. I only have experience of the swelling you're talking about. My DD age 4 bumped her head at nursery and it was a goose egg which then spread over her forehead and down her nose and puffed up her eyes. The out of hours staff told us it was swelling and fluid and it tends to gravitate downward and is due to the lack of space in their head. Children and I assume teenagers haven't got as much space in their skull as adults and elderly therefore swelling tends to do that. Maybe she knocked her head and didn't think anything of it? In her sleep? Or maybe it was an insect bite that has caused a reaction and fluid/swelling. I hope she's okay but don't hesitate to go back if you're worried.

dontcryformeargentina · 11/07/2024 08:50

Oops , sorry just saw the update. Glad she is ok

dontcryformeargentina · 11/07/2024 08:48

A&E urgently

Incakewetrust · 10/07/2024 23:41

Glad she's doing well!

PoopingAllTheWay · 10/07/2024 23:01

LizzieBennett73 · 10/07/2024 21:52

Great update, OP. And just goes to show that Dr's do get it right.... no need for dramatic dashes to A & E.

They dont always get it right tho, that is the point

Great she is doing well OP

123letsblaze · 10/07/2024 22:30

Great news op. No eyes popping out of heads or triangles of death after all.

LizzieBennett73 · 10/07/2024 21:52

Great update, OP. And just goes to show that Dr's do get it right.... no need for dramatic dashes to A & E.

OnGoldenPond · 10/07/2024 11:59

BeyondtheBigBang · 09/07/2024 21:06

@QueenCamilla I had a very similar experience to yours but with facial swelling. Sent home TWICE from A&E on two consecutive days despite huge swelling around one eye and in so much pain I passed out on the floor of the hospital. Apparently the doc thought I was being dramatic! Went in again on the Monday and it was orbital cellulitis, spent a week in hospital on iv antibiotics and steroids. Was told I was "lucky" not to lose the sight in that eye. Three months later I have loss of feeing on that side of my face and loss of smell where it infected my sinus. I am waiting for an apology after a formal complaint was made through PALS.
For the OP, I was told any significant swelling or redness on the face warranted an immediate urgent appointment or A&E if the weekend. With blood tests and possibly CT scans.
I hope your DD is on the road to recovery and the antibiotics did the trick.

That's exactly what happened to my DS and by the time it got taken seriously the infection was putting so much pressure on the eyeball that the they had to do an emergency operation to drain it manually, along with a week in hospital on IV antibiotics. He also was lucky not to lose his sight but luckily made a full recovery with no lasting ill effects. I'm sorry to hear you are suffering ongoing problems due to failure to take this seriously.

Watch out though, when I told this account earlier in the thread I was accused of over dramatising and laughed at by posters who didn't believe me. I'm sure you will know all too well that the "frog eye" description really isn't an exaggeration! Sad

Wheresthebeach · 10/07/2024 08:13

Lovely update

itsgettingweird · 10/07/2024 07:38

That's good news. Fingers crossed she continues to recover.

Dewdrops1 · 10/07/2024 06:55

DeerOhDear · 09/07/2024 20:56

@Dewdrops1 how is dd op?. On the road to recovery?

She’s much better, swelling has almost gone. Thanks for asking 😊

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BeyondtheBigBang · 09/07/2024 21:06

@QueenCamilla I had a very similar experience to yours but with facial swelling. Sent home TWICE from A&E on two consecutive days despite huge swelling around one eye and in so much pain I passed out on the floor of the hospital. Apparently the doc thought I was being dramatic! Went in again on the Monday and it was orbital cellulitis, spent a week in hospital on iv antibiotics and steroids. Was told I was "lucky" not to lose the sight in that eye. Three months later I have loss of feeing on that side of my face and loss of smell where it infected my sinus. I am waiting for an apology after a formal complaint was made through PALS.
For the OP, I was told any significant swelling or redness on the face warranted an immediate urgent appointment or A&E if the weekend. With blood tests and possibly CT scans.
I hope your DD is on the road to recovery and the antibiotics did the trick.

DeerOhDear · 09/07/2024 20:56

@Dewdrops1 how is dd op?. On the road to recovery?

Wheresthebeach · 09/07/2024 18:13

Kjpt140v · 09/07/2024 14:55

She used it before contacting a professional, didn't she?

Honestly @Kjpt140v give it a rest. No need to constantly put the boot in to a mother worried about her DD

Kjpt140v · 09/07/2024 14:55

MissingKitty · 09/07/2024 12:55

She sought medical advice, has a treatment and is continuing to monitor it. Should she not use mumsnet in the meantime?

She used it before contacting a professional, didn't she?

MissingKitty · 09/07/2024 12:55

Kjpt140v · 09/07/2024 10:32

External. But if you are correct, why is mum pissing about on MN?

She sought medical advice, has a treatment and is continuing to monitor it. Should she not use mumsnet in the meantime?

Kjpt140v · 09/07/2024 10:32

Lougle · 08/07/2024 23:00

https://www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(20)30355-3/fulltext

Pictures look similar to you? The swelling is external because it has nowhere else to go. The damage is internal.

External. But if you are correct, why is mum pissing about on MN?

BoilingHotand50something · 09/07/2024 10:10

Morning OP. How is your daughter this morning?

Marmunia10667 · 09/07/2024 10:07

painkiller86 · 08/07/2024 22:41

I second this. Hope everything gets sorted for you all asap 🙏🏼

I absolutely third this! Please go back!

3luckystars · 09/07/2024 10:03

I agree. That’s a great post.

Wheresthebeach · 09/07/2024 09:29

We've three A&E experiences.
DD asthma - I took her in, thought they all looked serious/grumpy as I was wasting their time. Turns out DD heart rate was 250bpm, she was fast tracked, and pumped full of steroids. They gave it 15 minutes to work, then ICU. I wasn't sure her coughing was bad enough so felt embarrassed taking her in as it was sudden and she didn't have a fever or anything. Several days in hospital.
DSD - had a boil on her back. GP said it needed lancing, so to go to A&E. She wasn't fussed but decided to go in that evening as she had a busy work day the next day. Within 5 hours she was in surgery for sepsis. Took her weeks and weeks to recover as it was an open packed wound.
DD - insect bite that looked swollen. Went pharmacy as DD is allergic to a lot of insect bites and antihistamines weren't taking the swelling down within 24 hours. Sent directly to hospital by pharmacist after she drew a circle on DD's leg to show where the swelling was for hospital to see the spread. Massive doses of antibiotics needed.

Lesson - don't wait if you've any doubts. And ignore all the 'don't waste NHS resources' types.