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Justkeepswiimming · 07/07/2024 13:54

Election time. Always a fun time for familes who have wildly differing political views. Younger members of my family are very pleased with this election result. My Dad isn't. My sister has put up something about being pleased about a Labour win on her personal Facebook page, I have written something along the lines that I agree and feel a tiny bit of optimism about the future. My Dad has responded, on my sisters personal Facebook page, calling out both of our views. Basically telling us how stupid we are, how it will all fall apart. He uses incredibly condescending language.

We avoid political discussions with him because his way is the right way and he will not tolerate other views. But personal Facebook pages are different and I feel that my sister should feel able to post her views on her page without him consistently gatecrashing with his views and basically trying to make her, and now me, look pretty stupid. Ironically I think he comes off looking more ignorant, but it's the attitude and intention behind it that makes me cross.

For years I have ignored similar instances where he had been pretty rude and condescending on our Facebook pages when we post something vaguely political and as a result I no longer do so. It's more trouble than it's worth. And I usually just ignore him when he does comment but this time I think he's gone too far. My sister has bit back at him, to which he's now saying he has a right to voice his views without fear of being shut down, which I think is pretty cheeky bearing in mind he's gatecrashed a post my sister hasn't directed at him at all, voicing her own views on her own page, where he's tried to shut her down and humiliate her and me

I'm torn between ignoring him for the sake of peace and telling him how inappropriate it is to speak so condescendingly to someone about their very well informed political views (my sister is a political geographer by background). How do I deal with him? Any clever responses would be hugely appreciated.

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Dontevenlookatme · 07/07/2024 16:32

GrumpyPanda · 07/07/2024 14:42

Nowhere did OP say it was a public post. Most people these days have the good sense to keep their fb pages restricted to friends.

Except that the post is visible to their friends too. Nothing is “personal” (if by that she means private) on Facebook

allaboardtheplaybus · 07/07/2024 16:23

I'd just change privacy settings so he can't see what you or her post.

HowIrresponsible · 07/07/2024 16:20

My partners family are spilt 50/50 tory and Labour voters.

My partner votes tory as do I, so does his dad and his brother
His sister votes labour.
There was all sorts of banter on their family whatsapp with their dad saying we're all doomed and similar to what your dad said.. His daughter let it roll off her back.

Ffs this man is your dad. Just ignore him!

He's also older than you and can perhaps see how historically shit Labour always are and that's why they've only been in power a third of the last century. They are a weak opposition and always have been.

You might change your mind when pension is means tested and you're taxed to the hilt.

There are enough threads on here calling tory voters stupid and bigoted but that's alright I guess.

Develop a thicker skin.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 07/07/2024 16:19

I voted for Labour. Even though I do have a few reservations about them, I think they are the right party for me and the country right now - and GOD KNOWS we needed to get the Tories out! 😖

I follow several people on Twitter/have them follow me too, who are pretty OK people (at least they appeared to be!) and we have some things in common, but they are right wing. Not a problem for me as I am fairly centric and think both sides have some valid arguments. But they have gone BATSHIT over Labour getting in.

One woman is constantly messaging Labour/Keir Starmer and saying 'what you gonna do about these boats at Dover Keir? What you gonna do about the illegal Muslims? What you gonna do about the NHS? What you gonna do about the housing crisis? Eh Keir. Eh eh EH?!' I just think 'crikey woman, give the man a chance! He is still unpacking at No 10! He has only been PM for 2 days!

She keeps posting pictures of The Muppets, and clowns, and monkeys - and saying 'Hello Labour Party.' With lots of LOLing emojis. She is starting to come across as unhinged. Clearly incredibly bitter and angry that Labour won. SHE is a Nigel Farage fangirl. Can't believe she thought Reform would win! Confused

I posted several 'well done Labour' posts on Twitter. I didn't go on about it, I just retweeted 3 posts. This woman has not engaged with me since. She used to like and acknowledge lots of my posts/tweets. Now. Radio silence.

Giving her a wide berth I am now, and will soft block her in a few weeks.

Trickabrick · 07/07/2024 16:19

Justkeepswiimming · 07/07/2024 15:50

Just to make it clear I don't have any issue with the voicing of opinions. I have an issue with the way it is done. You can respectfully disagree and disrespectfully disagree. There is a huge difference. It always amazes me how rude a person will be one social media which they wouldn't dream of being face-to-face. It's cowardly.

I’d reply with your second-to-last sentence then - “It always amazes me…..” if you truly think he wouldn’t say it in person.

Thedayb4youcame · 07/07/2024 16:15

GrumpyPanda · 07/07/2024 14:42

Nowhere did OP say it was a public post. Most people these days have the good sense to keep their fb pages restricted to friends.

Well then it's like standing in your own street and just shouting to your neighbours.

Just because a FB page is 'private' it does not mean that in reality it can't still be like shouting at a group of people.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 07/07/2024 16:09

I am so sorry folks. I didn't mean to quite the entire OP! Blush

HungryLittleCrocodile · 07/07/2024 16:09

Justkeepswiimming · 07/07/2024 13:54

Election time. Always a fun time for familes who have wildly differing political views. Younger members of my family are very pleased with this election result. My Dad isn't. My sister has put up something about being pleased about a Labour win on her personal Facebook page, I have written something along the lines that I agree and feel a tiny bit of optimism about the future. My Dad has responded, on my sisters personal Facebook page, calling out both of our views. Basically telling us how stupid we are, how it will all fall apart. He uses incredibly condescending language.

We avoid political discussions with him because his way is the right way and he will not tolerate other views. But personal Facebook pages are different and I feel that my sister should feel able to post her views on her page without him consistently gatecrashing with his views and basically trying to make her, and now me, look pretty stupid. Ironically I think he comes off looking more ignorant, but it's the attitude and intention behind it that makes me cross.

For years I have ignored similar instances where he had been pretty rude and condescending on our Facebook pages when we post something vaguely political and as a result I no longer do so. It's more trouble than it's worth. And I usually just ignore him when he does comment but this time I think he's gone too far. My sister has bit back at him, to which he's now saying he has a right to voice his views without fear of being shut down, which I think is pretty cheeky bearing in mind he's gatecrashed a post my sister hasn't directed at him at all, voicing her own views on her own page, where he's tried to shut her down and humiliate her and me

I'm torn between ignoring him for the sake of peace and telling him how inappropriate it is to speak so condescendingly to someone about their very well informed political views (my sister is a political geographer by background). How do I deal with him? Any clever responses would be hugely appreciated.

Is he a Reform voter @Justkeepswiimming ?

EerieSilence · 07/07/2024 16:09

I blocked DF because he's a prick. Also, has some really extreme political views and clicks on every crap possible. He posted something that had a link to a hard core porn. I got FB to take it down, then called me out on this. In return, instead of stopping clicking on every shit he sees, he asked me to keep vetting his account. I told him to go and f himself sideways, blocked him completely and eventually became NC with him (plenty of other reasons too).

Thedayb4youcame · 07/07/2024 16:03

Justkeepswiimming · 07/07/2024 15:50

Just to make it clear I don't have any issue with the voicing of opinions. I have an issue with the way it is done. You can respectfully disagree and disrespectfully disagree. There is a huge difference. It always amazes me how rude a person will be one social media which they wouldn't dream of being face-to-face. It's cowardly.

True, but -rightly or wrongly - you have to consider your audience and how they will react to what you say.

I accept it's a person's private page, but at the same time they invite their audience, and have to prepare for the reaction.

I have unfriended several people on FB because I didn't wish to see what they were posting. It hasn't stopped me interacting with them in real life...funnily enough, one of those people met my husband and me for dinner last year, and spent a lot of time saying how much their mother had criticised their facebook page.

But as I said to my husband on the way home, I don't know why that person added their mother as a friend on FB, as they struggle to be civilised in person. Added to which, I find their content makes unpleasant reading too. I don't beleive that responsibility for FB content starts and ends with "well it's MY page!".

LookItsMeAgain · 07/07/2024 15:53

If it's her post, can't she delete his post?
Every time he posts something, delete it.

ThatTealViewer · 07/07/2024 15:52

Block him and tell him why.

Justkeepswiimming · 07/07/2024 15:50

Just to make it clear I don't have any issue with the voicing of opinions. I have an issue with the way it is done. You can respectfully disagree and disrespectfully disagree. There is a huge difference. It always amazes me how rude a person will be one social media which they wouldn't dream of being face-to-face. It's cowardly.

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Blackcats7 · 07/07/2024 15:20

Either block him or limit the audience of certain posts so he never sees them to comment. Depends how obvious you want your boundaries to be.
I blocked and deleted my truly awful cousin for his constant fb racism and don’t regret it but appreciate you probably feel a lot more for your dad than I ever did for my cousin.

StaunchMomma · 07/07/2024 15:11

I'd be tempted to stick up for your sister by stating you are within your rights to have your own opinions on your own pages and, with regard to him saying he has the right to state his opinion without being shut down, point out that that is exactly what he has done to her, aggressively and unnecessarily rudely, too!

'Rising above it' just means he'll continue to do it and you'll be forced to either put up with it or never post anything political in nature - who can be arsed with that?!!

I agree that blocking him from seeing further posts is the way forward. It's up to you if you say anything before doing so.

DdraigGoch · 07/07/2024 15:01

Thedayb4youcame · 07/07/2024 14:57

He will. It's very obvious when you're on a restricted profile, as you see so little. The difference is very noticable.

I have only been moved to a restricted profile once, and as I keep my FB friends list restricted to 14 people, it's easy to keep track of what's going on.

I have no objection to not being anyone's FB friend, but I can't see the point in being restricted to the level of only seeing a public profile. I always think it's for people who people can"t bring themselves to unfriend, but don't really want as FB friends.

Is the OP's father likely to be bright enough to realise though?

PuppyMonkey · 07/07/2024 15:00

I don’t agree with him being rude to your Dsis but she’s a bit naive to post political stuff on social media and not expect replies of all descriptions. Just put a sad face on his post and ignore him.

Ohnobackagain · 07/07/2024 14:58

@Justkeepswiimming I know it’s not quite what you asked, but your sister can just delete Dad’s comments as you can usually remove anyone’s from your own post. Also, for future ref, she could post to ‘friends except’ so he won’t even see it on his timeline, or turn off commenting for posts where she wants to announce something but not enter into a debate etc.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 07/07/2024 14:58

Just delete his comments and change your settings so he can't see your future posts.

Thedayb4youcame · 07/07/2024 14:57

Frostynight · 07/07/2024 14:51

If you don't want to unfriemd him, just restrict him. He won't know you've done it, but he won't be able to see what you post.

He will. It's very obvious when you're on a restricted profile, as you see so little. The difference is very noticable.

I have only been moved to a restricted profile once, and as I keep my FB friends list restricted to 14 people, it's easy to keep track of what's going on.

I have no objection to not being anyone's FB friend, but I can't see the point in being restricted to the level of only seeing a public profile. I always think it's for people who people can"t bring themselves to unfriend, but don't really want as FB friends.

DdraigGoch · 07/07/2024 14:57

My sister has bit back at him, to which he's now saying he has a right to voice his views without fear of being shut down

"Freedom of expression works both ways. You are free to post your views (no matter how [ill-advised/batshit/other insult of choice] they are), she is free to respond with hers."

Alternatively you could descend to his level:
"What's up snowflake? Can dish it out but can't take it?"

ViaRia01 · 07/07/2024 14:56

I don’t agree with the premise that he can’t voice his opposing views on you DS Facebook post. Of course it all depends on how rude or insulting his comments is but I’d call out the rudeness, if necessary, not the difference in political opinions.

ahagiraffe · 07/07/2024 14:56

You can restrict individual posts on facebook so I'd do this.

Frostynight · 07/07/2024 14:51

If you don't want to unfriemd him, just restrict him. He won't know you've done it, but he won't be able to see what you post.

Thedayb4youcame · 07/07/2024 14:48

MidnightPatrol · 07/07/2024 14:14

You all need to grow up, quite frankly

Squabbling on social media isn’t a good look for anyone

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