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Would you move tables at a Cafe?

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Southlondoner88 · 07/07/2024 12:10

So I’m inclined to say before I begin that maybe I was being a bit unreasonable but with good reason.

I am studying for really intense exams this week, had to get myself out of the house before I go insane so I came to a local Cafe Nero to do some work and have lunch. I chose a booth for 4 people partly because it was the only seat available when I first came in that looked comfortable and in the quiet area down the back. I would never sit at large booth on my own if this was a restaurant or a pub but it’s a chain, a lot of people do this and I see it all the time.

I was in deep intense study, earphones on, feeling great about myself and my productivity when a woman with her husband and adult child (I’m assuming) came to tap me on the shoulder. She asked if I could sit in the booth on the other side of me, there no please, excuse me or even a smile. I thought about it for a second, this is something I would normally agree to, I have previously swapped bus seats or airplane seats so children can sit together etc and would normally do this without being asked. If they were elderly or had toddlers/ babies or even if they just seemed nice I may have moved as I am a genuinely a nice person(people pleaser). However, after a quick scan of the situation, I politely declined and said I need this booth as there’s a charging socket here. I also didn’t really think they absolutely needed it, there were other seats/ tables free but I guess they wanted a booth. I also might have been persuaded if she was polite but I found her tone quite rude from the beginning and I was proved right because as soon as I declined, she said ‘so your just going to take up a booth because you need to charge your laptop?’ I then just said no again and turned away to which I was then called an ‘arrogant bitch.’ They clearly wanted an argument so I tried to ignore. They sat down at the booth in question and just pulled another seat over so it’s not as if they had nowhere to sit. They also sat there for no longer than 10 minutes and when they left, the woman turned to me and said ‘ hope you have a really shit rest of the day,’ again in a very aggressive tone.

I just think wow, it’s a public, chain cafe where seats are first come, first serve.. why on earth would you even bother someone clearly busy and comfortable when you only wanted to sit there for 10 minutes.

Also I’m not the only one here who is taking up extra space, there’s a couple opposite me sitting at a table for 6. I don’t know why they targeted me, probably because I’m a lone woman and look quite young for my age (been told this and still get ID’d in my 30’s.

it’s really annoyed me and I felt a bit shaky as I hate confrontation.

sorry excessively long post but think it needed context!

OP posts:
mitogoshi · 07/07/2024 13:17

They asked if they could join you basically using the spare seats? You said no because you needed the plug (couldn't you have slid across towards the socket?) Yes the woman was annoyed but I can understand why, and don't forget the other underoccupied table may have told her they were waiting for people too.

I think it's pretty unreasonable to under occupy by my than one seat to be honest, when I've had to (often no choice) I've always allowed others to sit at my table and equally I've asked to join others many times and never been told no due to a plug!

redalex261 · 07/07/2024 13:15

Another vote for both unreasonable. One person, four seats? Nah! No reason for that.

The woman’s unreasonable nastiness? As out of order as you are.

Birdingbear · 07/07/2024 13:13

Wish people who wanted to do work would avoid coffee shops and go to a library or somewhere else

People pay to come here for a coffee and a chat etc. If you're sitting at a booth fir an hour thinking it's OK to order a coffee once an hour....don't think that's ok. You've no thought for other customers, especially taking up a booth

JennyBeanR · 07/07/2024 13:13

kitsuneghost · 07/07/2024 13:05

A single person taking s booth is rude even if it is quiet at the time.
Coffee shops can get busy quickly and why should a group sit cramped round a small table because you are using a coffee shop as a library

It's not rude at all. It's first come, first serve. You are not more entitled to certain seats than anyone else.

JennyBeanR · 07/07/2024 13:12

Sorry this happened to you. I hope you're feeling better now.

I don't understand why people are saying you shouldn't have sat in the seat either. It's a public space and you paid for lunch. It's up to the establishment to set rules on who can sit where, not other customers. Nothing excuses the way this lady spoke to you. Absolutely nothing.

Workoutinthepark · 07/07/2024 13:12

The woman was a psycho, buy another coffee next time you're there, then toast to the fact you aren't related to her and never have to see her again!

Aria999 · 07/07/2024 13:11

Did you also have one coffee which you drank very slowly over the course of three hours?

If I had asked you to move I would have been very polite but people who take up a whole booth by themselves in a busy cafe (normally sitting next to the remains of a coffee they obviously finished hours ago) give me the rage.

MonsteraMama · 07/07/2024 13:08

Have worked in a coffee shop, to all the people deeply concerned about how awful it is for business (yes, the poor giant coffee chain, however will they cope) I promise no one cares. There's loads of people who sit for a few hours, have a few coffees and a sarnie, it's fine. People come in and do work meetings, job interviews, all sorts. All fine. The OP taking up a booth is fine, it was the only seat available when she arrived, no one expects people to play musical chairs to ensure maximum capacity can be fulfilled at all times. It's fine.

It's first come first served, end of, and if the woman had asked politely OP probably would've moved anyway, but she woke up and chose to be a cunt so she reaped the benefits of that behaviour.

What's not fine is being a rude bitch and verbally abusing someone when you don't get your own way.

BettyBardMacDonald · 07/07/2024 13:08

kitsuneghost · 07/07/2024 13:05

A single person taking s booth is rude even if it is quiet at the time.
Coffee shops can get busy quickly and why should a group sit cramped round a small table because you are using a coffee shop as a library

Because a small cramped table doesn't suit her needs, either.

Solo people need not always accept the dregs that are left over after others have taken what they pleased.

Reallybadidea · 07/07/2024 13:07

Same thing happened to me recently - I was in the canteen at work at a table on my own in the middle of my lunch and a group of people came up and asked me to move to a space on another table. I said that I was very happy for them to join me but that I wouldn't be moving. They were quite polite but I do think that it's incredibly rude to interrupt someone eating to ask them to move just so that you can have the table to yourself.

As an aside I don't believe that they would have approached a man with that request, but obviously I have no way of proving that!

Seeline · 07/07/2024 13:07

Scammersarescum · 07/07/2024 12:52

Can people not read?

It was the only table available when the OP settled herself down and she's a paying customer.

Tsk tsk OP as soon as a less suitable table became available you should have leapt up and taken it. Women are expected to make themselves small in public and ignore their own needs and wants.

No way she would have said those things to a man.

You try reading - she chose that seat because it was the only one that looked comfortable and was at the back. The fact that she chose it, would mean that there was a choice - not the only seat.

BettyBardMacDonald · 07/07/2024 13:05

IceCreamWoes · 07/07/2024 12:48

You are not being unreasonable, and I agree with all your points. It's a first come first served situation in those places, there were other seats available for them, you might have been more understanding if she was polite but she was a complete arse. Why would would you do her a favour? I'd have done the same (and needing a socket was a good enough reason anyway)

I agree with this.

So tired of a world in which singletons are constantly expecting to defer to coupled.

The booth may have had 4 seats but it also had the charging sockets and size of table the OP needed.

Her needs are as important as any others.

Four people who don't need a socket don't outweigh the need of the solo person who does.

kitsuneghost · 07/07/2024 13:05

A single person taking s booth is rude even if it is quiet at the time.
Coffee shops can get busy quickly and why should a group sit cramped round a small table because you are using a coffee shop as a library

SofiaSoFar · 07/07/2024 13:04

lunar1 · 07/07/2024 12:53

I wouldn't have called you names, but I would have thought them. Do your work at home if you can't compromise.

Why? They could have sat elsewhere but just decided their wanted OP's seat.

I also didn’t really think they absolutely needed it, there were other seats/ tables free but I guess they wanted a booth.

DysmalRadius · 07/07/2024 13:02

MultiplaLight · 07/07/2024 12:56

Using 1 seat and buying stuff, borderline OK.

Taking up 4 seats is not OK.

How is using one seat and buying stuff in a coffeeshop only 'borderline ok' when it is literally the only reason for coffee shops to exist.

SofiaSoFar · 07/07/2024 13:01

The rude woman was lucky you were as passive as you were.

I wouldn't have let her get away with speaking to me like that. She's obviously been lucky so far in her dealings with her fellow citizens, but her luck will run out.

Babadook76 · 07/07/2024 12:59

MasterBeth · 07/07/2024 12:50

She is not unreasonable to be working in a coffee shop. It is a perfectly reasonable use of a coffee shop.

But she is extremely unreasonable for taking up a four seater booth so she could plug her laptop into the cafes socket. I wonder how long she was there, what food and drink she bought and whether she offered any money for the use of their electric

Mylovelygreendress · 07/07/2024 12:56

Allfur · 07/07/2024 12:13

Another thread about public verbal abuse, why are people so angry and abusive over such minor irritations!

A few days ago DH and I went to a local coffee shop which wasn’t very busy . We sat at a table for 2 near the window and ordered coffee and cake .
We were chatting when 2 women approached us and “ could you move please ,we always sit here !”
There were lots of other tables available so I said no. They stood for a few moments telling each other how rude we were !
Bizarre .,

MultiplaLight · 07/07/2024 12:56

Using 1 seat and buying stuff, borderline OK.

Taking up 4 seats is not OK.

BingoMarieHeeler · 07/07/2024 12:55

MultiplaLight · 07/07/2024 12:52

Why's it OK for you to use a cafe as an office?

Why is it NOT OK for her to use it as an office? It’s not like she’s on loud calls. There are sockets for people to use so it’s not about costing the business money. Also it’s Nero, let’s not feel bad for them.

Have people really not noticed that there are always people working in cafes? 😄 as long as they’re buying, what’s the problem?

LordPercyPercy · 07/07/2024 12:54

Ideally you woulnd't be using a cafe as an office, as this costs businesses money. However there is no way it is reasonable to be rude and verbally abusive to a total stranger.

BingoMarieHeeler · 07/07/2024 12:53

YANBU. There was clearly another booth so they can sit there (obviously they can, they did). What a horrible, sour woman. Just feel sorry for her. Of course if she was nicer things might go better for her, as you said.

lunar1 · 07/07/2024 12:53

I wouldn't have called you names, but I would have thought them. Do your work at home if you can't compromise.

MultiplaLight · 07/07/2024 12:52

Why's it OK for you to use a cafe as an office?

Scammersarescum · 07/07/2024 12:52

Can people not read?

It was the only table available when the OP settled herself down and she's a paying customer.

Tsk tsk OP as soon as a less suitable table became available you should have leapt up and taken it. Women are expected to make themselves small in public and ignore their own needs and wants.

No way she would have said those things to a man.

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