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Parents contributing to nieces’ school fees

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EriDaCat · 06/07/2024 21:54

Hi, I know I’m probably BU but I’m frustrated and need to rant!
My parents are mid 50s, my dad is a Dentist and my mum works in HR . Both now work 5 days a week. No idea what they are earning but they are mortgage free and live in the NE.
I have no children, I’m married, I don’t know if I want children. My brother has 2 daughters 4 and almost 1. My brother works in finance, not investment banking but he is doing well for his age, is a “head of” and I imagine makes around 150k maybe even more. His wife is a teacher at a private school, finishing her maternity leave but works part time anyway.
Id say they are incredibly privileged, she inherited a house from a relative (not parents) and it sold for over 3 million, after inheritance tax they were able to buy a lovely 5 bed in a very expensive part of SW London. They are mortgage free and seem to have a lovely life.

Now today I was talking to my mum, she mentioned DN starting school this year and I said “state or private” (my brother and I were both privately educated but my parents made massive sacrifices to do this). This is when my mum told me they have offered to pay 25% of both DN’s school fees. Apparently the fees are about £6500 per term but obviously tax will be added soon so enough. My parents are estimating around £500 a month right now but expect it will go up. My mum told me that they will be sending them £1000 a month, when I asked why when only the eldest will be in school she more or less said - help with nursery costs. The other 75% is being covered 50% brother and his wife and 25% by his wife’s parents. I asked my parents what they will do when they retire but apparently the plan is they will go the secondary school my brother’s wife works at and they have a discount for children of staff.

Now I’m sort of resentful, I don’t have children and may never have but my mortgage is more than the cost of their school fees and I earn less. It feels like my brother and his wife work for nothing and it really irks me. I think my parents are being stupid giving away so much money every month. Sometimes I think they only do it to compete with brother’s wife’s parents who are equally well off but she is an only child.

AIBU to find this really annoying and to resent it?

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MassiveOvaryaction · 07/07/2024 09:25

@EriDaCat you're resentful that they're not paying the equivalent sum to you? Or you doubt that if you had children they'd do the same?

I don't understand why they felt the need to tell you at all tbh. I have no idea what if anything my siblings/their children get from my parents, only what they're kind enough to give to us.

Cuppapuppa · 07/07/2024 09:23

@tuvamoodyson I will never let my in-laws or parents pay for lunch, shopping etc. they have given us hundreds of thousands. And as I’ve said I wouldn’t take money for dc or not that my siblings didn’t get but again maybe it’s cultural.

tuvamoodyson · 07/07/2024 09:20

Cuppapuppa · 07/07/2024 08:04

If the brother had expected it he would be grabby but there is nothing to suggest that it isn’t a case of the Grandparents making a free choice how to spend their money

But the brother is taking it, isn’t that grabby considering his own wealth? My MIL wanted to buy me lunch the other day, I paid.

Yes, I can see how that is comparable

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Eleganz · 07/07/2024 09:17

Your parents can spend their money how they wish. The only expectation you can have really is equity and that means that should you have grandchildren they should be treated the same way (financial circumstances permitting) not that you get the equivalent cash they are spending on their grandchildren because you don't have any kids.

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Edingril · 07/07/2024 09:17

What my parents do with their money is their business, you sound either very entitled or childish I can't work out which

SundayTulips · 07/07/2024 09:15

LIZS · 06/07/2024 22:21

Very unusual ime. They still might get funding during part or all of Reception though.

Not unusual at all in SW london. Where I live in the area this is the minimum. Many schools charge the same and several more (schools round here include Broomwood, Finton House, Hornsby House, Thomas’s, Eaton House the Manor)

No part funding exists to my knowledge

violetposie · 07/07/2024 09:13

Summerinspringtime · 07/07/2024 08:08

There is no correct answer. However I think it’s fine to say ‘So as I don’t have children will you be giving me the same amount as you give my brother? Or do I have to do without?’
Your parents are then free to answer how they want.

I'm in utter disbelief at comments like this. Surely no one would actually say this to their parents?!

Their parents have supported them enough! Now they want to treat their grandchildren. Yes, there is a benefit to the son in that he doesn't have to pay that 25% portion of the school fees, but OP doesn't have any school fees to pay either, so they're equal on that front.

My parents have helped my nieces and nephews with things like this for the last ten years, I would never ever ever turn around and say "well, where's my hand out?". How utterly grotesque! One of my siblings is a bit like that though, hence why they aren't an executor or POA!

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 07/07/2024 09:11

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/07/2024 22:11

I suppose it depends on whether you see children as part of their parents or individual people. My Mum and Dad are scrupulously fair with money between my brother and me. He got cash when I got some for my wedding for example (he won't marry). But they see DD as a person in her own right so they can give her things and not my brother.

If your parents see it as giving your nieces a good start, they can see that as separate to you.

This sounds sensible.

OP, I think it is probably a case of them seeing your niece/nephew as separate relatives they want to help. I would hope that if you had children, they would treat yours the same.

An example, my mum gives a lot of money to her grandchildren (my children). She doesn’t give an equal amount to my sibling because she sees her grandchildren as separate people who she likes to give things to. If my sibling had children it’d be different.

SocoBateVira · 07/07/2024 09:07

toomanytonotice · 07/07/2024 08:44

I get it o/p. It’s not even the money, so much, it’s the inequality.

we recently found out in laws have been paying 2x dn school fees. They’d even kept it secret.

we do have kids, no such offer was made for ours. When we had money issues no offer of help. We didn’t ask of course, but it burns to discover gp paid several hundred thousand for one set of grandkids and watched the others go without.

it’s basically a fuck you.

That actually is unequal. But it's not akin to the OPs situation.

Yippiddy · 07/07/2024 09:04

I'm with you OP. It would annoy me too. If I were the brother I wouldn't accept the money.
He's the one being grabby

turnipsarelush · 07/07/2024 09:01

Cuppapuppa · 07/07/2024 08:55

because they didn't like his protected characteristic?? Jeez you're a stronger person than I.

how does one get over that?!

I don't know sounds like @CableCar is so strong and able to make peace with it though

SamPoodle123 · 07/07/2024 09:01

I would ask if they will do the same for you when you have children. If they won't be able to, they should not be doing it for the other two grandkids...as it just will not be fair. And tbh it does not seem fair if they are mortgage free to make your parents pay for the school when they can pay for it.

Prapsfound · 07/07/2024 08:59

Hmmm not sure, I mean, the money I presume will go straight to the children rather than to them to spend on themselves if that makes sense. As you don’t have children it’s hard to make a comparison. I guess to make it fair then they should pledge to pay your kids school fees if you ever have children. I would be pissed off if they gave £6.5 k to them to help with COL crisis or whatever and would want the same, but as this money if really for their children I am not sure 🤷‍♀️

Cuppapuppa · 07/07/2024 08:55

because they didn't like his protected characteristic?? Jeez you're a stronger person than I.

how does one get over that?!

turnipsarelush · 07/07/2024 08:54

CableCar · 07/07/2024 08:51

I get the feelings completely. My parents gave my brother £50,000 towards a house deposit that they didn't ever give to me, nor will I see it in their will... Only because they disagreed with my getting married so young to my DH. DH and I are happily married for over 10 years now, with lovely DC, stable jobs etc... no reason other than they wouldn't have chosen him for me themselves because of protected characteristics, so they make that known by not helping us out financially like they did my brother. It hurts when family do that. However, I am also over what my parents did as time is a healer. I said it was unfair at the time and called them out on it... They stuck to their plan and didn't change anything. Eventually I got over it. Tbh if I were you I'd be bold and bring it up and ask if they'd considered helping you out like they're helping your brother out financially... The difficulty is how do they see it... do they see it as saving your brother on school fees each month so he has more money for other things in life, or do they see it as investing in their grandchildren. Be prepared that they'll say the later. At the end of the day, imo, it's right for parents to treat their children fairly.

However, I am also over what my parents did as time is a healer because they didn't like his protected characteristic?? Jeez you're a stronger person than I.

turnipsarelush · 07/07/2024 08:53

The jealousy drips from your words. Poison.

Jealous of a child.

Custardandrhubarbcrumble · 07/07/2024 08:52

Our situation is on a much smaller scale but my parents offered to pay for musical instrument lessons for their grandchildren. It's something they prize highly and paid for both me and my brother during childhood. I have three kids, my brother has one. My parents are very careful about fairness of spending. But this is them paying for something for each grandchild not something they are paying for us. So they don't feel the need to give my brother extra money to make up for it.

CableCar · 07/07/2024 08:51

I get the feelings completely. My parents gave my brother £50,000 towards a house deposit that they didn't ever give to me, nor will I see it in their will... Only because they disagreed with my getting married so young to my DH. DH and I are happily married for over 10 years now, with lovely DC, stable jobs etc... no reason other than they wouldn't have chosen him for me themselves because of protected characteristics, so they make that known by not helping us out financially like they did my brother. It hurts when family do that. However, I am also over what my parents did as time is a healer. I said it was unfair at the time and called them out on it... They stuck to their plan and didn't change anything. Eventually I got over it. Tbh if I were you I'd be bold and bring it up and ask if they'd considered helping you out like they're helping your brother out financially... The difficulty is how do they see it... do they see it as saving your brother on school fees each month so he has more money for other things in life, or do they see it as investing in their grandchildren. Be prepared that they'll say the later. At the end of the day, imo, it's right for parents to treat their children fairly.

Matronic6 · 07/07/2024 08:51

I think it is a bit tacky and grabby of your bro and SIL to actually accept the money considering they are mortgage free on his salary. If you are right they feel they must contribute the same as the other grandparents, it is really shameful your brother is accepting it.

My parents motto is 'what you give to one you have to give to all' but obviously this happens in different life contexts. When my brother got married they didn't give us all money but when each of us got married we got the same. As you don't have children it is not comparable right now.

All you can do is accept your parents are generous people who want to support their children and grandchildren and make sure they don't feel pressured to give this money.

turnipsarelush · 07/07/2024 08:51

It's their money. Why are you treating your parents as if they don't understand what they are doing? Are you concerned they can't manage their own finances?

Cuppapuppa · 07/07/2024 08:50

The parents are treating the kids equally

Maybe that’s the difference. I don’t think it’s equal to help one dc with bills/disposable income vs another. Yes it’s for the gc but the brother does benefit too.

Wilfrida1 · 07/07/2024 08:49

Maybe they have told your brother that anything they have given him whilst alive comes out of his share of the estate when they have gone?

But I see it as spending on their grandchildren. And your choosing not to have children is exactly that - your choice.

Myblindsaredown · 07/07/2024 08:46

toomanytonotice · 07/07/2024 08:44

I get it o/p. It’s not even the money, so much, it’s the inequality.

we recently found out in laws have been paying 2x dn school fees. They’d even kept it secret.

we do have kids, no such offer was made for ours. When we had money issues no offer of help. We didn’t ask of course, but it burns to discover gp paid several hundred thousand for one set of grandkids and watched the others go without.

it’s basically a fuck you.

I think that’s different. Not treating the grandkids equally. The parents are treating the kids equally. Just the op also wants what the grandkids get.

Cuppapuppa · 07/07/2024 08:44

@Coffeerum we got everything at the same age, so my sister isn’t married but still got 30k at 25. Brother got house deposit at the same age but didn’t buy till 6 yrs later as didn’t want to be tied to a house.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest the GP wouldn’t pay for OP’s children’s fees too, or that it wouldn’t come back around at a later time for something specific.

There is nothing to suggest that they would though but I think it’s fine for the OP to ask the question.

Also what’s to say the money will be there in the future if the OP does have dc? Who knows what tax implications or care costs will look like in the future.

This has all blown up because OP is jealous of her brother, is obsessed with what he earns and how much his wife’s parents help them out.

Whereas I read it as the OP feels like she could do with money now too & feels she is being treated unfairly. One of my cousins is rich, earns 7 figures but my aunt & uncle still split their estate 3 ways. When he received his share he paid for a luxury group holiday for all of us & what was left went back to his other siblings as he didn’t need it. That’s what his parents would have wanted but would never leave him out. I suppose that’s why it feels alien to me & maybe it’s a cultural thing (I’m not English) re attitudes to money & fairness. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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