To actually feel sorry for the woman driving the car in the Wimbledon car accident

I thought the headteachers sounded ridiculous. Of course they were terribly upset about the whole thing and have great sympathy with the families, but why should they expect to be shown any evidence, especially medical evidence about the driver?

If the police did not conduct the investigation well that is a different issue and not the driver's fault. But the decision about whether to prosecute is not made by the police.

No I'm not a brain surgeon and nor am I giving out diagnoses of brain conditions!!

So let's say the woman was jailed for X years. It doesn't bring the children back. It destroys another family (potentially).

Perhaps a better legacy would be to have robust railings surrounding all schools so that if such an incident happens again, it's much harder for a car to get through. Or yes, ban those enormous 4x4s from suburban streets.

Perhaps the investigation was flawed. But whatever changes, I can't imagine it will make anyone feel better as those girls can't come back to life.

So sad.

Google "critical thinking" love.

1. first seizure
2. had a history of speeding on that road (according to headmistress)
3. some parents suggested she couldn’t park her car. She was known to them.
4. police involved have referred themselves for investigation.

Cars are always a danger because people can be distracted while driving (very common) or people can be taken suddenly ill/have a seizure (much rather)

For both of those reasons, I strongly support much more physical separation of vehicles and pedestrians eg proper bollards lining the edge of the pavement in areas with lots of foot traffic (along shopping streets, outside train stations, around bus stops, outside schools)

It got very little publicity but two children on way home from school were injured near me when a car driven by an elderly man left the road and crashed into a bus stop. Luckily they survived with only broken legs.

You can't line every single road with bollards but you could start with key areas eg Oxford Street. It's single lane and cars aren't supposed to stop there so they just mount the pavement instead. Madness on one of the busiest pedestrian streets in the city. After the Westminster Bridge attacks, they lined major bridges with bollards to stop vehicles being used to attack pedestrians so they should do that in more major tourist destinations.

The pedestrian "fencing" used at some crossings is useless as a big SUV like the one being driven in Wimbledon are far too heavy and will just squash it. It needs bollards with proper deep foundations (see World Bollards Appreciation Society on twitter for examples of them stopping huge lorries)

She's not the one spouting crap!!

It doesn't sound like it's true she has epilepsy. Epilepsy is the tendency to have recurrent seizures - and she hadn't been diagnosed before this. They say it was her first seizure which doesn't make it epilepsy if it was just one. So perhaps she has gone on to have more and has now been diagnosed...but I doubt it. Seems really fishy. And there won't be any proof of it if it was just one.

Seizures can be caused by all kinds of things which can be avoided - excessive tiredness, hunger, thirst, stress etc. I think more investigating is needed.

I think that is a fucking stupid and totally ignorant statement! You know nothing about epilepsy nor this case!

The headmistress told parents she’d made complaints about this particular woman speeding before and was shocked the police hadn’t investigated further. There was no evidence at the time of seizures or her passing out. The police have referred themselves for investigation so more info may come.

I think it's understandable that the parents are angry, whilst the driver might feel very guilty she gets to go home to her children every day.
Absolutely heartbreaking

Desperately sorry for all involved.

I don't understand the doubts people have about the police decision - a medical event or mechanical failure seemed the most likely causes on the day to me.

Horrific for everyone.

Are you perchance?

My son died aged 22 in 2022 after being hit by a car it was a complete accident and it is a really terrible thing to go through and my heart hurts for the person that has to live with this forever and my heart hurts for me because I lost my beautiful son, there are no winners but I do feel for the family in what I know is an awful thing to have to come to terms with

I think we need to review the size of cars. She wasn't doing anything illegal, but I can't help but wonder if the outcome would have been the same if it was a smaller car.

It concerns me a lot that there are so many big cars on the road. They are more of a risk to pedestrians, and to smaller cars. And they take up more space which matters in a city like London.

My mum had a seizure in her late 60s. She was in the garden and the neighbour saw her on the ground and called paramedics and said she was having a fit. The paramedics reported it to the DVLA as is their duty and she was banned from driving for 2 years. She has never had one since.

Are you a brain surgeon? Where did you train and which hospital Trust do you work for?

I think the parents are naturally enough wanting a more….robust case for not prosecuting, than ‘I blacked out and don’t have any memory of what happened’. I know I would, in their position. Absolutely not saying that she didn’t have a seizure, but has she been examined - neurological tests, brain scans etc? I get the impression that either the parents and teachers feel that her ‘defence’ hasn’t really been put to the test, or if it has, they haven’t been kept in the loop about the results. Is she still allowed to drive?

It's a tradegy for everyone including the driver.

My father had his first seizure a few weeks ago aged 91. I was with him when it happened. Only one so can't call it epilepsy as such

What a load of nonsense

I can't see how anyone could not feel sorry for her. She did nothing wrong but will be living with a life sentence of guilt and trauma. Her name should never have been made public, there are too many crazies out there who may act out against her. If I was her I'd be changing my name and moving away, but she may have family etc making that complicated.

It's a terribly sad situation all round. Neither the families of those poor little girls, nor the woman involved, will ever get over it

I saw the report on Thursday and thought it was very jumbled and the two teachers weren't making sense.

The seemed to have an issue that the Police had failed by not charging someone with a crime. But there WAS no crime, because the person driving the vehicle was unconscious after a seizure, which could not have been predicted. Yes it's very sad, and the driver must feel absolutely dreadful but it's not her fault and could not have been predicted. Neither teacher is a medical expert, or expert in car crash investigation, or the law, or epilepsy. They are teachers and it is not their place to be calling for any action.

Now the Police may well have been rubbish at investigating and communicating and keeping people updated but that's not the same thing. And it's not what the two teachers were saying. Clearly the parents have no interest in being interviewed by the BBC.

You're talking shit. My ex had his first and last seizure at 27. He didn't have any more because the first one killed him.

The value of her house is utterly irrelevant. Would you be more willing to believe the outcome if she was a single mum on benefits, from a council estate.