To actually feel sorry for the woman driving the car in the Wimbledon car accident

Or they have zero understanding that they're not entitled to review evidence containing other people's special category personal data aka the medical info of the woman who caused the crash

So they just have to take the police decision on trust?

This is a bit concerning, from the Guardian:

In their first interviews since the fatalities the Study’s current head, Sharon Maher, and Helen Lowe, who was in charge at the time, told BBC News:

“Maybe when they [the Met] go away and look at the evidence, they will remember the answers. But there were a number of occasions where they weren’t sure if something had been done, or they couldn’t remember.”
“At this moment in time, it would appear that I have been let down by them.”

I feel a little sorry for her having a medical episode. But anyone who chooses to buy a vehicle like that is deciding to dramatically increase the risk that if anything goes wrong they may slaughter innocent bystanders who would have survived if there was a more suitable vehicle involved

Any SUV, particularly large ones, should be much more restricted on licenses.

I can go to the GP or A&E tomorrow, tell them I've had a seizure the day before and they will not be able to deny it.
I believe only video evidence could prove she was concious/distracted etc.

My sympathy really is for the parents first and foremost.
I understand your point OP, I don't know how I could live with myself if I'd ever cause hurt.
However this all seemed to have been handled quite strangely and I trust the parents or the school would not raise concerns at this point if they did not have cause to.

And you trust them to keep the information private?

The parents.

What punishment should someone who has a seizure, heart attack or any other unexpected medical issue get? How do you know she hasn't had another seizure since?

She was thoughtless enough to be driving a 3.5 tonne vehicle in suburbia.
Her choice of vehicle plus her fit caused the fence to be smashed down and the children to die.

Did you see the post above where a Nissan micro knocked down a house wall in a similar medical episode?

Friend's car was an average saloon and would have easily knocked down a wall or fence. His foot was clamped to the accelerator. It was only because my dh was in the drivers seat that they stopped the car before damage was done to anyone or anything.

Yes, this was a big car but they aren't illegal to own and drive.

You don't need a "tank" if you live in Wimbledon. But it helps to fit in. Lots of huge cars in that area, and lots of terrible driving too.

I do but she didn't receive a strong enough punishment. They said she had an epileptic seizure, but she's never had one before? So it can't be diagnosed as epilepsy. Alcohol withdrawal? I don't know. But it's just horrendous.

It's not the driver's word. Are you suggesting all the medical staff involved are lying and covering for her too?

When you say you understand they want justice this doesn't make sense to me. The woman hasn't done anything wrong in the sense it was a complete accident . She had never had a seizure before. Why would anyone blast you for feeling sorry for her.

Why keep saying “poor woman” again and again?

It was a terrible accident, and I’m sure if you were the parents of those children you wouldn’t just accept “medical episode” without gold-plated evidence.

I believe that if one hasn’t suffered a seizure for an amount of time one can drive again. I know one thing: if I were the parents I would stalk this woman for the rest of her life and if she even picked up a set of car keys…

A colleague of mine’s elderly aunt ran down and killed a young mother in a supermarket car park. She was adamant it wasn’t her fault; it was the car that killed the woman and she was keen to get back behind the wheel.

My neighbour is in her 50's and had her first seizure last autumn. She's now waiting a year to see if she can drive again.
An acquaintance had her first seizure in pregnancy in her 30's.

The human body, can, and does, go rogue sometimes.

What % of people with seizures not caused by tumors, bleedings or other health isues that can be named will have the first seizure between 20 and 60?

No cause has been identified for my friend's seizures. He had two more following the first. He is now on medication. He's been seizure free since and can now drive again.

Never found any specific case.

Those cars are designed to mow down everything in their paths while protecting the people inside. Yes, there may be nothing she could have done (although the families, who have seen the evidence, aren't convinced). But it's a shame she didn't drive it into a brick wall rather than those precious children. I'm not convinced a normal-sized car would have caused the same amount of devastation.

Im a bit flummoxed as to why pple would automatically trust the police and CPS on this while being highly critical about how they handle sexual harassment and rape cases

This is a very good point.

It's also worth remembering that the people who are questioning the investigation were likely to have been there on the day. They witnessed this incident unlike the Police did.

I think at best it's a convenient diagnosis. My only hope is that this lady never gets behind the wheel of another car. That would be a massive insult to the memories of both children and their families.

i dont know how i would cope in her position

Rumour is that husband is a fierce lawyer and that the police got scared.

Im a bit flummoxed as to why pple would automatically trust the police and CPS on this while being highly critical about how they handle sexual harassment and rape cases.

there are some massive biases in how police and CPS view things, IMO, and I think they are highly biased towards harassers and drivers.

So for those doubting she had a seizure, what’s the alternative, that she purposely mounted the kerb, drove through a fence and straight for a group of children & adults? Anyone that saw the aerial photographs will see she drove in a straight line from the fence to the school. Even if she was distracted enough to mount the kerb and crash through the fence, an automatic response would be to swerve which she didn’t do. The investigation will also have checked her mobile phone and whether she braked.

I think that's why the parents are upset with the ruling - they are simply not convinced.

It's human nature to want someone to blame. That's what the parents want.

Sadly this appears to be a tragic accident where no one is to blame. Just a horrendous incident caused by a sudden medical occurrence.

There may be an inquest I suspect.

But in this case it's unlikely there will ever be charges made as there was no intention to hurt those children and the woman had no way of knowing she would have a medical episode in the car that dat.

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