To actually feel sorry for the woman driving the car in the Wimbledon car accident

And yet you have to disclose all sort of medical information to random insurance companies, so not so much of a defining principle after all.

We get it @ItsAlrightDarling you think the parents should accept the unfailable police's conclusions and that they are not to see any evidence for it. They should stop asking questions and move along. Nothing to see here.

I hope they test her for ''recreational substances'', too. They can bring on seizures.

You don't think they've done that already? 🙃

I hope they test her for ''recreational substances'', too. They can bring on seizures.

https://www.nationalepilepsytraining.co.uk/can-taking-cocaine-cause-seizures/

It's usually nervous drivers who are drawn to them because they feel ''Safe''- but heaven help the people they hit.

They have no need for them in suburbia.

They're clearly unhappy with the process that led to the CPS decision and they're entitled to make that as public as they like.

And it's obviously having an impact, given the investigation is now being reviewed.

What? So your logic is they would have been quiet if a nonsense prosecution had proceeded? But the fact there is no case for a prosecution means they'll just shout about it?

I was confused by your opening line 'I’m sure I’ll be flamed here' OP as I couldn't imagine anybody not feeling sympathy for someone who caused such an horrific tragedy because of a medical event. Though you haven't been flamed, it seems your apprehension wasn't misplaced - I had no idea this tragedy was so 'polarising' as a pp put it.

I feel even more sorry for the driver reading some of these posts and I think it's really shit of the school to imply there's more to it and cause further speculation about a woman who is probably going through hell too. There's nothing to suggest this was intentional, or a result of negligent/dangerous driving - I don't care how fancy your house is, or how big your car is, waking up to carnage and knowing you've caused the death of 2 small children is an unimaginable burden. You are not being unreasonable at all feeling sorry for her.

I get this.

But the school/families are entitled to be very publicly pissed off about this given that their experiences with the CPS/police have obviously led them to have very little faith in the investigation. They might presumably have accepted that quietly had a prosecution proceeded, but now there is no prosecution they're presumably refusing to take it lying down and are going to kick up as much fuss as they can. Which is their right.

To create a mechanism to examine the evidence in court, despite the CPS deciding that no crime has been committed, would mean dismantling our entire criminal justice system as it currently exists and creating an entirely new process.

My sister developed epilepsy (and lost her driving licence) at 35. No preceding signs / history.

You are really showing your ignorance here regarding seizures.

I think you will also find that her living in a detached house in Wimbledon has no relevance whatsoever. I should imagine that the poor parents of the sadly deceased also live in a detached house in Wimbledon as well. It is wholly inappropriate to discuss what property any of those involved live in. Shame on you.

I would argue about the ridiculous comment. Police don’t decide to prosecute unless it’s a petty crime like shoplifting. Police only gather evidence. CPS only decides and I understand that they can give the medical evidence to the parents with the drivers consent.

People are entitled publicly to disagree with the CPS decision on the basis that the medical evidence hasn't been examined in court.

Might also help to know that the interior designer posted photos in their online portfolio in April-May 2023 (it's viewable in the source code).

Ridiculous and absolutely untrue. My BIL had a seizure when he was 51. Came from nowhere, no history. Initially diagnosed as not epilepsy but no other known or obvious cause. He stopped driving whilst this was under investigation and just as he was told it wasn't epilepsy he had a very serious fit and ended up in hospital for a number of days, both for tests and because of the damage he did to himself. He was put on epilepsy medication and not able to drive for 12 months. He hasn't had a fit since but whilst he could drive now he very rarely does.

@GoFigure235 yours has got to be one of the most ridiculous comments. The woman is not using her medical information to avoid a prosecution that wording is extremely misleading. It's the police/CPS who've made the decision it's not in the public interest to prosecute. It's completely different

Of course they are, they are entitled to say whatever they want, to whomever they want.
They are, however, not entitled to demand anyone’s private medical information, or to have a bespoke criminal justice process created for this specific case. The CPS have reviewed the evidence and decided that no crime has been committed. They make this sort of decision every single day.

And the school and the families are saying loud and clear that they don't have confidence in the police investigation or the CPS decision.

They are entitled to do so.

It has been examined by the CPS, whose job it is to examine evidence such as this to determine whether a crime has been committed that can be prosecuted in a court of law.

In essence this woman is relying on her private medical information to avoid a public, criminal charge for killing these two girls. That obviously makes it of intense interest to the families and friends of those killed and injured and blurs the line between the private and the public. While they may not be entitled to review the private medical information and she may be entitled to keep it private, they are right to state publicly in uncategorical terms that they are unconvinced that justice has been done. How can they be convinced? They haven't seen the evidence and it hasn't been examined by a court.

There is a massive difference between a prolonged and calculated incident of harassment and an unexpected epileptic fit.

I think you've misunderstood. The article they're referring to is the interior design one about the driver's bathroom. She gave the interview in Feb 2023, before the accident although it looks like it wasn't published until earlier this year.

You are quite wrong. A friend’s 40 year old son had an out of the blue epileptic seizure that killed him. He had no previous history of epilepsy or seizures and appeared perfectly fit and well on the day it happened. A post mortem revealed no other underlying medical reason. My friend was told that epilepsy can occur for the first time at any age and first time seizures sometimes occur as a result of a stroke or a brain tumour. Fortunately, my friend’s son was at home when his seizure happened, but he could just as easily have been driving. I can’t imagine that the CPS would have dropped the case if there wasn’t convincing medical evidence, so it’s wrong to speculate on the driver’s culpability in this case.

The posters are referring to the date of the interior design article.

It was actually 6th July last year.