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Offcom · 2024-07-06T12:10:11+00:00

Quite a frequent route for me… I’m the red car, wanting to turn right from Cranston Road onto Woolstone Road. The green car wants to go straight ahead from Houston Road to Cranston Road. We’ve both stopped at the stop sign to check it’s clear for us to move on. No cars are coming in either direction on Woolstone Road but I wait for the green car to move off as I think I should give priority to them as they are going straight ahead. But nine out of 10 times, the green car continues waiting behind the stop line and seems to think that I have priority in making my right turn. Sometimes they flash their headlights to tell me to go. It seems mad to me that a right turn would have priority but it happens so often that I’m wondering what I’ve missed. I have looked at the Highway Code but I can’t find any guidance… can anyone explain what’s meant to happen? I always fully stop, completely behind the line in case you’re wondering. Thank you!

DannyLovesFanny · 06/07/2024 14:46

Some of the replies on here are genuinely scary. I can only hope that anyone who thinks that the red car has priority doesn't hold a driving licence. If they do, they shouldn't be driving.

CuteCillian · 06/07/2024 14:43

Red has right of way.
Green car has to give way to traffic. You're arriving from the right of them, so they have to give way.

Red has right of way. You become the traffic on Woolstone road that they have to give way to.

This is correct. The green car would be pulling out in front of a car proceeding along Woolstone Road irrespective of when/where that car joined the road.

The actual moment of making eye contact whilst you both stop at the junction is a different matter though and comes down to individual interactions.

Magnastorm · 06/07/2024 14:34

All very well quoting the hc etc, but in reality this is one of those situations where you eyeball the other driver and see what they are doing, and if someone flashes that helps establish what they are planning to do.

If I am going ahead in the example, I am pausing to make sure red car is not about to plow into the side of me before proceeding.

scalt · 06/07/2024 14:34

Driving instructor here. I can tell you unequivocally that Green has priority: both cars are on minor roads, and left or ahead have priority over right, as right has to cross more lines of traffic.

However, I would not rely at all on anyone knowing this: it’s one of those really obscure rules that not many people know.

Try someone’s knowledge with this. What colour are reversing lights? Lots of people say “red”.

behindthemall · 06/07/2024 14:31

Nottherealslimshady · 06/07/2024 14:27

Neither of these cars are going "straight ahead" they are both at give ways. A car going straight ahead is a car continuing straight along the same road and not crossing any give ways. Not just a car going in a straight line.
A car on Woolstone road turning right would have right of way over both cars no matter what direction they wanted to go.

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But s180 of the Highway Code says you can’t turn right unless there is a gap in oncoming traffic. The green car is oncoming…

rwalker · 06/07/2024 14:28

CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/07/2024 14:12

WTAF? 😂Have you missed the STOP sign that the Red car also has to adhere to?

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no need for the wtf and emoji we’re not 12

they both have a stop sign red would be on the red rd approaching the green car from the right
so green would have to giveaway to red rd and any traffic on it which would be the red car coming from there right

Nottherealslimshady · 06/07/2024 14:27

PontiacFirebird · 06/07/2024 14:21

This thread is scary and makes it very clear why driving is awful nowadays. Right turners don’t have priority over straight aheaders! When turning right you have to wait for a gap in oncoming traffic!
Although green may allow red to go as a precaution, in case red is one of the people who doesn’t understand this!

Neither of these cars are going "straight ahead" they are both at give ways. A car going straight ahead is a car continuing straight along the same road and not crossing any give ways. Not just a car going in a straight line.
A car on Woolstone road turning right would have right of way over both cars no matter what direction they wanted to go.

behindthemall · 06/07/2024 14:27

Goingncforthisone · 06/07/2024 13:28

Red has right of way.
Green car has to give way to traffic. You're arriving from the right of them, so they have to give way.

No. On a right turn you should always give way to oncoming traffic.

But I think in these situations there is an element of who got there first, and an element of making eye contact with the other driver and deciding who goes first if there is hesitancy.

Whateveryouwant1 · 06/07/2024 14:27

Nottherealslimshady · 06/07/2024 14:24

Red has right of way. You become the traffic on Woolstone road that they have to give way to.

This

Nottherealslimshady · 06/07/2024 14:24

Red has right of way. You become the traffic on Woolstone road that they have to give way to.

PontiacFirebird · 06/07/2024 14:21

This thread is scary and makes it very clear why driving is awful nowadays. Right turners don’t have priority over straight aheaders! When turning right you have to wait for a gap in oncoming traffic!
Although green may allow red to go as a precaution, in case red is one of the people who doesn’t understand this!

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 06/07/2024 14:20

In this particular situation, I think it's irrelevant whether a car is turning or going straight across. The first one to the junction gets to go first, once the road is clear.

Wontletmeusemynormalname · 06/07/2024 14:16

For me it's quite simple, I'd give way to the car turning because they could they could be sat there for ages. Ordinarily though, whoever is first to the junction.

DannyLovesFanny · 06/07/2024 14:15

rwalker · 06/07/2024 14:06

But green has to giveaway to the rd at red is turning onto
even though green is going straight across there is a stop and giveaway on the junction
do anything that is on on turning onto the red rd has priority as indicated by the fact the green rd had to giveaway to the red rd

if it was an unmarked junction I would agree with you but it’s not

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They both have to give way to traffic already on the road, but the red car should also give way to the green car because it's crossing the green car's path. The green car has priority.

MarmitePizza · 06/07/2024 14:13

Goingncforthisone · 06/07/2024 13:28

Red has right of way.
Green car has to give way to traffic. You're arriving from the right of them, so they have to give way.

This is what would happen at a roundabout, but this isn’t a roundabout. The car going straight has priority.
At a roundabout, yes, the car coming from the right has priority as it is already on the road. In this scenario, neither car is on the main road and the one going straight has priority.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/07/2024 14:13

I don't think some people responding have passed their test yet....

CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/07/2024 14:12

rwalker · 06/07/2024 14:06

But green has to giveaway to the rd at red is turning onto
even though green is going straight across there is a stop and giveaway on the junction
do anything that is on on turning onto the red rd has priority as indicated by the fact the green rd had to giveaway to the red rd

if it was an unmarked junction I would agree with you but it’s not

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WTAF? 😂Have you missed the STOP sign that the Red car also has to adhere to?

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Correct.

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God, I agree. Or some people are on a mega windup.

timenowplease · 06/07/2024 14:10

'You have no rights when turning right' my instructor told me. Seems green car people are being nice to you.

Mountainhowl · 06/07/2024 14:10

We live on a similar junction and most seem to follow 'who got there first' right of way

summershere99 · 06/07/2024 14:09

This is where American style stop signs would be useful - then it's whoever arrives at the junction first, goes first.. which makes sense to me.

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/07/2024 14:07

Em308 · 06/07/2024 13:56

Red is driving from minor road onto major road, green is driving from minor road to minor road, therefore red has right of way.

What is telling you that the roads are minor or major? Mind boggling...