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Heartbroken about DS's teacher

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Bluetie · 06/07/2024 12:20

DS is a great kid. He's smart, funny, musical and sporty. He is also incredibly polite and has a caring nature. He is always winning awards at school, and is liked by all. DS attends a lovely small school with only 2 year-groups.

His previous teachers were OK but in year 3, he's had the most wonderful teacher, Mr T. Mr T is DS's first male teacher and they also share a hobby. Mr T has really helped DS develop his confidence, pushing him more in academics. DS has had a great year.

DS is now moving to year 4. Mr T is also moving to year 4. But they won't be together. All the classes have been mixed to mix abilities, sexes and SEN.

One morning this week, I went to ask Mr T if this class allocation was final. The head came to join our conversation, and he said he will only move DS for an exceptional reason. The head added that the new teacher has made the best progress in her year group across the whole school. I really want DS to stay with Mr T.

Can anyone think of something?

OP posts:
Mellowbear · 07/07/2024 18:54

Have a word with yourself before you totally embarrass your child. You are unbelievably entitled.

xxFairyNuffxx · 07/07/2024 18:52

Bluetie · 06/07/2024 12:51

There must be a child who is doing as well as DS in his class who will also have Mr T in year 4. They won't have to go through an adjustment period with a new teacher. This must be putting DS at a disadvantage.

Or...

Maybe Mr T had brought your child out of himself and he is now ready to flourish with his next teacher.

And now another child who perhaps didn't have Mr T this year now gets that same opportunity.

ThatsAFineLookingHighHorse · 07/07/2024 18:50

Bluetie · 07/07/2024 12:22

I’m not setting up a club. I don’t like other people’s children.

Well, suppose we at least now know why only your son's desires matter out of the 60 children moving into year 4 😂

Timeforanotheraliasnow · 07/07/2024 18:43

Variety is good for children, he’ll be fine. What would you be doing if the teacher was moving school? Would you want to swap schools to go with him? Relax and welcome the change or your DS may pick up on your anxiety and then you’ve really got a problem.

usernother · 07/07/2024 18:38

Another thing about private school OP is that when my child was at one, the form groups were mixed up at the start of each new term so pupils got used to making new friends, talking to new people and having a new teacher. It was a really good idea.

Newmumatlast · 07/07/2024 18:35

crumblingschools · 06/07/2024 12:28

Please don’t be that parent

Bit late for that it seems

TheSixQuarks · 07/07/2024 18:32

Good luck choosing your child's teacher at a private school.

This is the reason I feel as bad for teachers in the private sector as I do the state, the sense that parents can dictate school policies or planning.

Teach your kid to be robust, find the best in all circumstances and you will be setting them up for success.

FindingNeverland28 · 07/07/2024 18:31

I’m going to try and be as polite as possible here OP. I am also a teacher and I’ve moved up a year group before and been extremely lucky to have some of my previous class move up with me. I have however, gone to my head and requested not to have a child in my class the following year. Not because of the child, but because of the parent. Have you considered that Mr T doesn’t want to have your DS in his class again?
Give the other teacher a chance. Your DS will be in exactly the same boat as the other children in his class, plus he’ll have the benefit of being taught by an experienced year 4 teacher.
Please don’t suggest that Mr T runs an extra curricular class either. The poor man may very well be spending more time getting to grips with the year 4 curriculum, organising his classroom, extra staff meetings, etc.
I hope everything works out with DS and I’m sure he will be absolutely fine in his new class, with his new teacher.

Notforbeef · 07/07/2024 18:27

Bluetie · 06/07/2024 12:30

My child will benefit from continuity with the same teacher surely?

Then choose a small school where teachers stay with the children through KS1 or KS2. Your school does not have e that policy. Mine doesn't either, sometimes it happens when teachers are moved around, but in my experience the transition after having the same teacher for 2 years is much harder.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 07/07/2024 18:24

wildfellhall · 06/07/2024 12:40

I feel your pain.

My son missed out on the brilliant male teacher at the end of primary school and got an NQT with a young baby who was, phoning it in IMO!

So heartbreaking - but thems the breaks unfortunately! I get it though.

The lauding of male primary school teachers actually makes me feel quite sick.

I would love to be able to say that there was absolutely no difference between male and female primary school teachers, but actually, in my 10 years of experience as a primary school teacher, my male colleagues have been far less professional (including in front of the children) and lazier than my female colleagues.

I have also never worked with a heterosexual male colleague (including a headteacher) who hasn't slept with one or more of his female colleagues... and yes, most of these men were married.

And yet parents, usually mums, are always DESPERATE for their children to have a male teacher.

Apologies to any professional, hard-working male primary school teachers who don't shag their colleagues... I just haven't met you.

ItsAlrightDarling · 07/07/2024 18:20

Bluetie · 07/07/2024 17:54

Well, I’ve been thinking about this all weekend. It’s not about Mr T. It’s about how little control I have about what is best for DS. We were going to go private anyway from year 7 but I think we need to look into moving him sooner. It’s just 3 extra years in the grand scheme of things.

My children are at private school. You don’t get to choose their teachers there either.

nancyastor · 07/07/2024 18:19

Without doubt Mr T has had a say in how the classes are to be split. Either your child has been identified as one with resilience and likely to thrive with a new teacher.

OR one that he wants to offload to another class. If it's the latter it could be for a number of reasons... bad behaviour, know it all, over bearing parents etc.

I wouldn't over think it - there are bigger issues to get worked up over.

usernother · 07/07/2024 18:10

Bluetie · 07/07/2024 17:54

Well, I’ve been thinking about this all weekend. It’s not about Mr T. It’s about how little control I have about what is best for DS. We were going to go private anyway from year 7 but I think we need to look into moving him sooner. It’s just 3 extra years in the grand scheme of things.

If you think you're going to be able to choose your child's class teacher in a private school you are going to be disappointed.

noosmummy12 · 07/07/2024 17:57

Bluetie · 07/07/2024 17:55

You are lovely, thank you. All the best to your ds and to you. x

Thank you- I may or may not have cried when my dd left her reception teacher too lol sometimes your child just has that one person who actually changes their lives and their outlook and both dd and ds have had these teachers. DD was fine with her next teacher and I know my ds will be too. They will always have the things those teachers taught them x

Smilingthroughtears · 07/07/2024 17:56

Well I read the title and thought the teacher has a serious illness or had passed away. Something like that.

Your son will have lots of teachers in his time at school, some he will click with more than others for whatever reason. It really isn’t something to make a fuss about-you can have your own concerns but don’t put that worry onto your child. Embrace his new teacher and class-show him how to handle change.

Bluetie · 07/07/2024 17:55

noosmummy12 · 07/07/2024 17:52

But at the same time, so would all the others? Your child sounds like he’s doing amazingly, and although it can actually be so sad (my ds is about to leave the best, loveliest teacher in the world too), they will have to move on at some point, and maybe Mr T (I ain’t gettin on no plane!) will be able to make other children who may be struggling as amazing as your ds is x

You are lovely, thank you. All the best to your ds and to you. x

OP posts:
Bluetie · 07/07/2024 17:54

Well, I’ve been thinking about this all weekend. It’s not about Mr T. It’s about how little control I have about what is best for DS. We were going to go private anyway from year 7 but I think we need to look into moving him sooner. It’s just 3 extra years in the grand scheme of things.

OP posts:
noosmummy12 · 07/07/2024 17:52

Bluetie · 06/07/2024 12:30

My child will benefit from continuity with the same teacher surely?

But at the same time, so would all the others? Your child sounds like he’s doing amazingly, and although it can actually be so sad (my ds is about to leave the best, loveliest teacher in the world too), they will have to move on at some point, and maybe Mr T (I ain’t gettin on no plane!) will be able to make other children who may be struggling as amazing as your ds is x

Newusername3kidss · 07/07/2024 17:50

Where do you live? In the UK kids have a different teacher every year in primary school. Some teachers are amazing - some not so great. That’s just the way it goes. You can’t have the “best” teacher every year

RebeccaJD · 07/07/2024 17:47

😂 if kids got to choose in my school I’d end up with loads. One year I did move up with a class after lots of parents asked and at the end of the 2nd year half of them desperately wanted another teacher. We do spend a lot of time with each other. Change is good. I always say I’m still in school and as a teacher you don’t just forget the ones before - you still chat to them all the time.

Shudahaddogs · 07/07/2024 17:46

Yes, I can think of something...teach your child nothing is forever..then move on..

whyhavetheygotsomany · 07/07/2024 17:38

Do you think you are that parent and mr t couldn't take it anymore !!!!!!

haveacat · 07/07/2024 17:23

turnipsarelush · 06/07/2024 17:04

Good point maybe Mr (Tumble) asked for DS to be moved

Actually, this might be spot on. I am a teacher who has been involved in the allocation of classes when they have been mixed. Some teachers do request that particular children are not placed in their class because of parents who make them feel really uncomfortable.

Buntycat · 07/07/2024 17:13

Buntycat · 07/07/2024 16:53

Governors are there to deal with the strategic management of the school, finance, vision etc. They are emphatically not allowed to interfere with "operational" matters, i.e. the day-to-day organisation and running of the school. That is the Headteacher's job.

Thinking about it again, surely the post suggesting escalation to governors, MP and the PM must have bern a spoof - mustn’t it??

snoopyfanaccountant · 07/07/2024 17:08

One of mine had the same teacher 2 years running and it was an unmitigated disaster. The first year was a single stage class and the second was a composite class. Over the course of the two years the group who had the teacher for 2 years fell a year behind where they should have been in language. Had they changed teachers after one year, they wouldn't have spent the next year catching up because the problem would have been caught sooner.
I was disappointed at some of the teachers my DDs were allocated but I would never have tried to change them and apart from one teacher it all worked out fine for them. One of my DDs is ND and a job share supply teacher took a particular interest in pulling DD's file and doing everything that she could to support her.
DD2 had 2 male teachers and neither lasted the year. The first had 2 job share posts in neighbouring schools and the other half in the other school became vacant so he left our school. The second was appointed as an acting deputy head in the school so was taken out of the classroom. Both are now head teachers. They were both great classroom teachers and the children loved them.
Apart from P1, one of mine didn't have the same teacher for a full year due to absence, maternity leave, promotion and moving to another job. OP, don't assume that Mr T will still be there this time next year.