Labour should invest in weight loss medications immediately

Have you ever lost weight before? And if so, did you maintain that weight loss?

Indeed it is - but that is still, in most cases, down to the person themselves. I'm overweight myself, and I know how to change that, and I know I can do it, and I will take the steps to do so.

Why should people (and I know this doesn't apply to SOME people) get a quick fix paid for by the government when there is something they could do to help themselves? Blaming UPFs is just a cop out also, they've been around for years. I eat plenty myself but I'm not "addicted" to them. People know how to eat right, they just don't want to put any effort into doing so.

Modern society seems to have become very lazy and too reliant on others for help.

Do you not know diabetics are routinely told they won’t lose mega pounds, these injections control blood sugar. Did you not read Women’s health magazine last month Ozempic caused a bowel blockage. These injections are taken at people’s own later risk.

Been lucky to get 6 full months on any one particular injection as they all to often go out of stock.

If the government want to get serious why not offer people the discomfort of inflatable ballon’s that last 6 months and close down many fast food joints.

When I attended for a colonoscopy I was asked if oral Rybelsus (Semiglutide) was a blood pressure medication because apparently it sounded like it. 😳

My paraplegic brother who is a severe type 2 diabetic almost bordering on type 1 gave up on last chance Rybelsus before I. He deeply couldn’t tolerate the side effects and as someone with decreased mobility even more painful. These injections ok as long as you move round.

We’ll agree to disagree. If you’re as low as 20g, you’re essentially cutting it out because that is absolutely not enough to have any benefit to your body.

Atkins/Keto - its much of a muchness because of the amount

The reality is that most people eating low carb arent at those levels, the NHS itself sets low carb to be under 100g.

Most people are not doing atkins or keto and even if they were its not cutting out a food group, which is what you claimed!!!

I see posters saying this about 'cutting out a food group' all the time low carb is mentioned, the clue is in the name 'LOW' carb.

If you look, I only edited it to say that the poster I quoted was referring to switching to fat from glucose which confirms why I said what I said in the first place.

I’m not spouting about something I don’t know about. Atkins - probably the most well known low carb weight loss diet there is and what most people think of when talking about low carb weight loss was originally 20g (though now there is a 40g version too). In order to switch to fat for fuel

And that is classed as low carb in the context of what I am referring to - it’s far too low for what our bodies need.

And I see you edited your post which affects the flow of the conversation

Ultimately it is not cutting out a food group, it is virtually impossible to go carb free.

Porridge. Who said significant? Not me.

You're talking about keto. Not everyone eating low carb is doing it that way. People on keto are usually around 20g per day.

Please learn about it before spouting off about cutting out food groups.

The most up to date and informed diabetes services and staff advice lower carb.

No, actually. I understand that for weight loss ‘low carb’ is used to mean eating low enough to switch from using glucose for energy. And that is not good because it is essentially cutting out that particular food group if you’re not consuming enough for it to have any effect on your body in terms of energy usage. I didn’t know specific numbers because that will probably vary for each indivdual.

And the person I quoted was specifically advocating switching from glucose for energy.

I completely agree. The NHS can't afford not to.

So you dont really understand about low carb but choose to say something like 'cutting out a food group is not a good thing'

Low carb (the clue is in the name) is about eating fewer carbohydrates that the modern diet would normally give and about those carbohydrates being unrefined. Its not cutting out a food group, that would be virtually impossible in the case of carbohydrates.

I eat 'low carb'. I have porridge and prunes for breakfast (carbs), with milk (carbs), I drink milk all day in tea and coffee (carbs), I eat fruit and veg (carbs), I eat legumes, pulses and lentils (carbs). I eat the odd bit of homemade cake or biscuit (very definitely carbs).

I run between 50 to 100g of carbs a day. Very low carbers are under 50, sometimes lower.

I thought for most of human history we were hunter gatherers. There would have been sugar in fruits and wild honey but fruits were much smaller and often sour. Wild starchy roots are also small.

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I don’t know the amounts specifically and I imagine it’s different for everybody but eating so little that our bodies stop using them for energy isn’t good. Our bodies are designed to use carbs.

Why should the taxpayer fund people who can't be bothered to eat healthier and take more exercise. It's a load of cobblers when they say they can't lose weight they could if they had the willpower and really tried I lost 4 stone without drugs and my daughters partner list 9 stone without drugs. Its a matter if self discipline.

What is recommended and what do you think low carb is?

So no food group is being cut out then?

My point was that you can get way more calories than you need in a day for 84p. Wholemeal upf bread would be barely better than white nutritionally. Still complete shit.

Carbs, essentially. Although not completely removed, it’s usually a lot less than recommended.

Can’t be that humble if you’re paying significant amounts of tax.

Aldis white and wholemeal are exactly the same price at 45p

What food group is being cut out by going low carb?

Like nicotine patches?

Thanks for your ill -informed sarcasm….🙄

I’m 39 and my weight gain is due to being forced to have prescribed steroid injections every month after having Thyroid cancer. It has sent me from a size 6 to a size 22 in 18 months. I eat once a day and have done since my teens. Nothing has changed except THYROID CANCER! So no, not by fucking magic ffs