Labour should invest in weight loss medications immediately

@Startingagainandagain but the NHS is funding these lazy people, as you see them. They are giving them hip operations, helping them to recover from heart attacks and strokes, etc. And of course the amount the patient pays privately doesn't reflect the cost to the NHS.

Oh look, the latest fat bashing thread.

Personally I think its something that should be between the person and their Dr, not something that is up for debate. If the Dr thinks weight loss medication would be beneficial to their patients then they should be able to prescribe them.

I'm not even close to overweight so have no skin in the game but feel that people should have access to all medicine/healthcare that will improve their health and quality of life. I know that that is idealistic and in reality budgets can only go so far but I don't really like the moralising about whether or not people deserve medication.

I'm a fat bastard but tbh I think there are other priorities the new government need to focus on finance wise.

I’d much rather they spend money on school budgets. Going for a walk is free

well done for losing the weight so far & yeah you put my clumsy post from earlier gfar better than I did, I think it's the breaking of the habit that is the key to being able to keep it off long term

No.

The first steps to lose weight always have to be a better diet and being more active, not medication or surgery.

I have complete sympathy for people who put on weight as a side effect to medication/some health conditions and can understand medication intervention in these cases, but for the majority of people a lifestyle change and will power is what is needed, not pills.

The NHS has more important things to fund than people who simply eat and drink too much and can't be bothered to get off the sofa.

And people who play rugby/football etc? Every time I took my son to a &e with a sports related injury there were swarms of other children in for the same reason

Scottishshortbread11877, it is

Do you hold the same opinion on medications for people with heart disease and lifestyle induced cancers?
How about somebody who gets pissed and breaks a leg? Should we not set the fracture? Careless drivers.......cancel the ambulance?

Scottishshortbread11877 no it shouldn't, it's time people took responsibility for their own health and learn some discipline ,not taking the easy option .

I've lost 4 stone on Ozempic. I have not had a relapse after coming off of it. I only put the weight on in the first place because of an under active thyroid that went undiagnosed for far too long because I couldn't get an appointment. Then when I got appointment and got blood test i was diagnosed I was only allowed 25 dose for 2 months, then 50 for 2 months, then 75 for a further 2 months then 100 for 2 months, then 125 for 2 more months then 150. In total it took a whole year before I was medicated on the correct dose. During this time I put on a further stone. Not everyone who is overweight eats cakes all the time.

😂 “so why bother?” 😂

It's not an appetite suppressant in the usual way. You can still enjoy food. It just stops you thinking about it all the time. It also means you feel full at the point you're full, rather than you being able to carry on eating long past that stage (which is what a lot of people do).

For instance, there was a thread on here about how many hamburgers someone could eat in one go. There are tons of threads like that. When you take a drug like Mounjaro you might fancy a hamburger if you were really hungry (which would be when you're stomach was empty, not because you just fancied it). Once you'd had one (or half of one) you'd feel as though you'd had enough, so you'd stop. Even the person in that thread who ate six hamburgers stopped eventually. We all reach a point where we feel we've had enough, but this injection - for me - has made me feel it when I've eaten a bit rather than a lot.

But you don't necessarily need mental health support! When I've been fed up I haven't turned to food, sweets or wine for comfort, in a way that I might have done before. I don't need counselling for that!

If people comfort eat and you take that away, there can be pretty serious mental health consequences as well. We don't have the MH support set up for this yet.

This is possibly the nastiest comment on a thread full of nastiness.

It's typical of any thread on here about weight and obesity. Basically they don't like obese or overweight people, but also don't like it when obese or overweight people do something to stop being obese or overweight.

Can't win, so why bother?

They don't entirely supress and they fade by the end of the week. It's not magic. You still have to try.
It just helps a bit.

The same as other classes of drugs help people with other conditions. We don't withhold drugs from them because they would relapse without them .

The issue with weight loss drugs is they don’t get to the root of the problem.

We as a nation need to start looking at WHY obesity is such an issue and start there. As I see it, our whole mentality and culture around food has deteriorated over the last couple of decades. Fast food places are literally everywhere and are addictive, convenient and relatively inexpensive. To allow such crap to fill up our high streets, roadside service stations, malls, just about everywhere has been a disaster.

I apologise, @HowToSaveTheNHS . Jumped the gun, I was wrong. 😐

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/fullarticle/2820255

It's not a definite yes or no yet, but certainly not a definite 'no' right now.

This is what I have found so weird in this thread. I work in this area so am aware of the research on obesity clearly giving evidence for the multiple reasons so many are affected, and I realise that this isn’t everyday reading for most people, nor does it need to be.

But the judgement. Is this what people really think? Or am I just naive? Surely anyone can work out that obesity is more complex than fatties having no self control? Over 20% of year 6 children are obese (not just overweight) according to gov.uk. That’s something else other than shit parenting/bad choices.

And the future impact of this is everyone’s problem, even the judgey ones.

Oh my god, I wondered when you'd admit you were recruiting for a study. Are you using thesecresponses as qualatativecevidence?