Labour should invest in weight loss medications immediately

I don’t think it’s the same situation as what’s available in lots of European countries. If I want to cycle with my children to school here there are numerous dangerous points on the journey where we’d have to dismount, or that would be dangerously close to traffic.
Once I get to school, there’s inadequate bike parking available for everybody’s bikes so I’d have to take the kids bikes home, which is impractical if I want to go to work directly afterwards.
This is massively different from when I lived in Europe and we cycled absolutely everywhere as a family (even with teeny kids), and parked our bikes safely at school. It was also perfectly safe for the kids to cycle to school alone, something which is unthinkable in many uk towns and cities.

For me it’s normal. But my point was that 1800 kcals is not a gluttonous amount to be eating which is what people assume is the case for fat people.

That depends on your height and how sedentary you are. I'm very short and my TDEE (daily calorie requirement with no exercise) is under 1400.

No, NHS funds should be prioritised towards diseases that people cannot prevent/ resolve themselves. Losing weight is hard, but possible, for all but a very few people. It's just bloody hard and too many people think they are in the tiny percentage of people who cannot.

But it doesn’t say mindful eating guarantees weight loss.

My point is 1800 calories is a completely healthy amount for someone to eat and is not a greedy, gluttonous amount like some people think I must eat to be my size. I don’t need to eat fewer because I’m not aiming to lose weight.

Where’s the money coming from to find this then Op?

1800 cals could be too high for you though, if you're overweight when eating that amount....

I don't really get your point. 1800 calories is too much to be eating to lose weight. Clearly you need to eat even fewer.

The video explains the way to combat the body and the brain is via mindful eating.

Anyone can eat what they want.. just don’t ask taxpayers to pay for it

For me they do exactly that - all “food noise” is gone, so gives me a very clear and uninterrupted focus on good nutritious balanced food only

The thought of unhealthy higher fat or sweet food or even just someone suggesting it when eating out repulses me now as I’m so uninterested in it - a normal diet does not achieve it to this extent

That’s exactly what I do, yet I’m still fat.

Also, it’s not all about mindful eating. It tells you how the body and the brain fight against weight loss..but of course you fat bashers would overlook that wouldn’t you?

Just watched the video. Interesting that it's all about mindful eating. Basically having responsibility for yourself and what goes in your mouth. I agree!

Also, as far as I’m aware once you stop these injections there’s nothing to say you’re not going to pile all the weight back on like with every other weight loss methods.

The NHS is already facing substantial and rising bills for obesity, diabetes type 2, heart failure, peripheral arterial disease, chronic kidney disease (CKD), metabolic dysfunction-associated steatotic liver disease (MASL) (used to be known as non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD)), COPD and other respiratory conditions.

Several of these conditions are associated with obesity. There's unmet need to prevent, intercept, reduce and improve conditions before they have a substantial impact on people's survival or quality of life as well as the affordability and sustainability of the NHS. It's worth scrutinising the cost benefit of whether it's affordable to reduce obesity now with a view to reduced costs of complex and multiple long-term conditions in the future.

I take it you didn’t watch the video.

Last time I was on one of these threads I tracked my calorie intake for a few days and averaged at 1800 kcals. Hardly greedy.

Yes.
I don't eat as much as my husband.
My 7yo eats more than his younger brother.

This is part of the problem, people thinking everyone needs the same amount of food, they don't.

But we can't blame the food environment for everything. There has to be, and is, a level of personal responsibility.

We know eating too much is bad for us. So design your life in a way that you don't.

Batch cook, only buy non upf, take advantage of frozen fruit and veg, meal plan. There are always going to be barriers for some but not half the UK adult population.

So a child can't eat the same size portion as their siblings because they are overweight and should go on a diet as a child? Great .. fat shaming kids now.... Ok...

It's not "really hard" for the majority of the population to maintain a healthy weight.

This is why it’s sometimes (but not always) easy to lose weight but hard to maintain that weight loss.

I find it quite funny that people compare previous generations as if they were virtuous for being slim when it’s pretty much a certainty that if those people lived now they’d be no different and that’s because of the food environment we live in.

I'd support this.

It's not "really hard" for the majority of the population to maintain a healthy weight. Years ago people managed it. I agree we have less time now, but we are better educated and have lots of time saving devices. Healthy food isn't expensive, it might be boring healthy and repetitive, but it would be healthy.

People make choices. I weigh more than my siblings because I eat more than them and move less. Not to the extent my bmi is unhealthy, but I know my own faults.

Some obesity is linked to complex trauma and isn't 'just' weight. Most is bad education, generations of eating rubbish and a tendency to expect someone else to sort your life out.

As many have said before me, banning UPF and making it easier to access healthy foods would target the root of the problem. Weight loss medication is not going to educate people or encourage healthy habits.

I know someone who got diabetes and all the other things that go with it because the NHS were shit at dealing with mental health. So I'd say they need to invest in mental health first. If people with mental health issues take these drugs the majority will put it all back on.

Wouldn't that bankrupt the NHS?

There's no supply issue full stop any more.

There was a supply issue and it was also an issue for those buying it privately but has largely been resolved.

She is in charge of what goes in her mouth as an adult, that’s the beauty of the world we live in.

What isn’t on, is she eats what she wants, then taxpayers have to pay to mitigate the results of this, because she doesn’t like it, and wants to lose weight.

If she puts on weight more easily than some; thems the breaks. There’s lots of us in the same boat; it’s just how it is - you have to eat less then some others if you want to be slim.