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To ask guest to leave for smoking in the bedroom?

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FgsMary · 06/07/2024 09:43

A friend has been staying. She lives abroad but is over here on holiday for 3 weeks. Day 1, she smoked in the kitchen. I told her no smoking at all in the house. She pulled a face but from then on, smoked in the garden. I then became aware that she was sneakily smoking in the bedroom at night (blowing it out of window). She is a very tricky person anyway. Very aggressive, confrontational, awkward, selfish, bullying at the best of times but I'd bit my lip for a week and it had mainly been OK. I asked her if she'd been smoking in the bedroom. She said no but then later text me to say that she had and she was sorry. I told her she should find somewhere else to stay and she left that day. I feel dreadful though and I should probably have just said again not to smoke inside but not asked her to leave. She's now playing the victim and acting like I'm the bad guy. Was I out of order? I have said she's welcome to come back and I've seen her since but she's said no to coming back and she's sleeping on a relatives floor instead.

OP posts:
trytofly · 06/07/2024 11:48

VotesAndGoats · 06/07/2024 09:49

Interested to hear replies. My brother and my mum are like this.

I will repeatedly say close the balcony door if you smoke. They just can't do it. Every time they stand with it open and it blows back in. I just can't understand why a simple instruction cannot be followed. And why I have to repeat it. And when I do why its met with rolling eyes. Its my house. I try saying it in different ways, would you mind, don't forget etc. And I'm met with 'oh are you still doing that are you' with a negative tone. I should add too, I have a respiratory condition. I don't invite them over often.

I would not invite them at all. No way in hell. They can stay at their own home rolling their eyes at you, so you don’t have to put up with it. Rude idiots.

Despair1 · 06/07/2024 11:48

Well done for asking her to leave after she disrespected your requirements of no smoking in your home. She had already done it once and you asked her not to; she did. I have very few house 'rules' but smoking is a definite NO in my home. You have been more than reasonable; don't let her victim style response get to you

parkrun500club · 06/07/2024 11:47

I do feel incredibly guilty. I've known her my whole life. It's caused all kinds of issues and I feel awful that she's now sleeping on the floor on cushions, even though her actions caused all this

why on earth would you feel guilty? It's really not hard not to smoke in a house. Go into the garden to smoke. Easy.

She has to be really really stupid to smoke at all. Quite apart from the health risks, it turns your skin yellow and lined and makes your breath stink.

There is zero need for you to feel guilty.

FgsMary · 06/07/2024 11:47

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/07/2024 11:08

You said no smoking so she sparks up in the bedroom. How dare she disrespect your home and hospitality like that. Not only is it rude it’s also potentially very dangerous supposing she dropped the damn thing and it had caused a fire.

She said, I understand that you feel disrespected. She didn't say I'm sorry that I disrespected you. She's smart with words and makes sure she takes no accountability for her actions. If you try to talk to her about her behaviour, she just says things like, I'm not making anyone feel uncomfortable/upset etc, their feelings are their own and they're choosing to feel like that. She's very hard work.

OP posts:
circular2478 · 06/07/2024 11:45

I don't think you were harsh. It's about the disrespect she showed you anxious your home and her attitude.

JonnyTheDogFacedBoy · 06/07/2024 11:43

YANBU. You already told her your boundary, and she pissed all over it when she is capable of not overstepping that same boundary in her parents' house. So, it's not that she can't help herself or control her impulses, she just doesn't respect you or care about hurting you.

Everyone walks on eggshells around her? F*ck that too. That is her placing greatest importance on her own feelings and intimidating others in to doing the same. All whilst giving zero consideration to anyone else's feelings.

You feel sorry for her and that you have some sense of responsibility for making her life easier. You don't, this is just how she makes you feel because it serves her sense of being the most important person in the world.

I'd have zero guilt about stepping away from this "friendship".

Izzy24 · 06/07/2024 11:34

Gosh, has my sister been staying with you?!

You are not in the wrong!

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/07/2024 11:28

Janedoe82 · Today 09:45
You were a bit harsh.

Completely disagree. The woman was told clearly no smoking and she ignored it and lied. Awful behaviour.

It takes a long time for the stink to dissipate. I’d have been really angry.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 06/07/2024 11:27

Janedoe82 · 06/07/2024 09:45

You were a bit harsh.

Really? Wow.

She was told the house rules, acted like a petulant child and disobeyed them anyway. Do you want the OP to be a complete doormat all her life?

OP, it doesn't sound like the friendship dynamics are all that great anyway so you are best leaving her on a relative's floor.

Cherrysoup · 06/07/2024 11:26

She hasn’t respected your very basic rule, there is no way I’d tolerate anyone smoking in my house, it’s disgusting, it stinks and lasts forever, it’s really difficult to get rid of the smell. You’ve done nothing wrong, she has. You shouldn’t have to ‘button your lip’ when someone does this. It’s way over a boundary. She’s cut her nose off to spite her face refusing to return because you told her no smoking. Who smokes upstairs?!

ilikemethewayiam · 06/07/2024 11:25

Halfheadhighlights · 06/07/2024 09:50

Why are you friends with this Very aggressive, confrontational, awkward, selfish, bullying person?

You were right to have her leave

Came to say exactly the same!

Djmaggie · 06/07/2024 11:23

YNBU. You explicitly told her not to smoke indoors. I’m a smoker and would never smoke in anybody else’s house. Even when they say it’s okay I still go outside. I don’t smoke in my own home so wouldn’t in anyone else’s.

Chaiilatte · 06/07/2024 11:21

Yanbu! And il go as far as to say she's NOT your friend. I can't imagine a friend being so kind to let me stay over, and doing the one thing they had specifically asked me not to do! She's a cheeky cow. All of my family are smokers and I'm constantly met with eye rolls asking them to smoke outside, with the door closed. I struggle to put up with it and would definitely not be putting up with it from a CF friend staying over for free. Do you even benefit from this friendship or is it all one sided?

Differentstarts · 06/07/2024 11:20

Yanbu and I'm saying that as a smoker. If you are staying in someone's home you follow their rules end off.

oakleaffy · 06/07/2024 11:19

@FgsMary I used to smoke rollups many years ago, and I too used to have a night time rollup leaning out of the window of my friend's house.

She asked that I don't do it, as the smell can blow back in.

What I used to do after that was take a walk up the lane- in the cold and the rain sometimes, at midnight.

Her lovely husband said ''I don't even allow my own mum to smoke in the house or out of windows''..

Now, as a many years non smoker, I absolutely understand how smelly tobacco is.
You absolutely are not unreasonable.

Your friend is undoubtedly ''addicted'' to nicotine , but there is nicotine gum that helps!

She doesn't need to be stinking out people's houses.

Why are you friends with an aggressive person?!

Please don't feel guilt tripped.

IF your friend quits smoking she will realise what a stinky habit it is.

YANBU.

Stripesandchecks543 · 06/07/2024 11:16

“She is a very tricky person anyway. Very aggressive, confrontational, awkward, selfish, bullying at the best of times”

Don’t give it another thought op! She got what was coming to her by the sound of it!

There are enough reasons there ^ without adding to the list!

Are you beholden to her in some way through familial ties? It worries me that you were “determined to button your lip” when someone is a bully and is aggressive and causes you to walk around on eggshells?

She sounds like the very opposite of a friend. Proper friends don’t behave this way! You were being kind by offering her hospitality. But she is not being kind or respectful in return.

Ask yourself are you so keen to appease her? Why are you second guessing yourself? Why do you want to continue the friendship?

betterangels · 06/07/2024 11:15

FgsMary · 06/07/2024 09:59

It's a relative. Absolutely not smoking there. Wouldn't dare.

I mean, that should tell you all about her lack of respect for you.

FanSaBhaile · 06/07/2024 11:15

I know it's hard for us to get a true understanding of the complexities of a relationship on MN, so appreciate a lot of replies are black and white.... why is she a friend? Dump her.

However, she trampled your boundaries and has no respect for your property so you were well within your rights to ask her to leave. She's now staying with her parents, albeit not in the most comfortable place, so is safe. You say she won't learn from this and respect people from now on, that's not your problem - so perhaps her parents should try educate her.

Don't feel guilty, and don't have her back!

Thelittleweasel · 06/07/2024 11:14

@FgsMary

Absolutely right [though it shows how difficult the "addiction" makes it]

gano · 06/07/2024 11:12

Janedoe82 · 06/07/2024 09:45

You were a bit harsh.

No she's not, and I say that as a smoker.

Legendofthelostkeys · 06/07/2024 11:12

"She is a very tricky person anyway. Very aggressive, confrontational, awkward, selfish, bullying at the best of times"

Why on Earth would you want to be friends with somebody like this?!

Foodieasfuck · 06/07/2024 11:12

You did the right thing. She should have respected your boundaries but instead she thought that what she wanted to do in YOUR house was more important than your wishes…
I wouldn’t allow anybody to smoke in my house (or vape)…

yomellamoHelly · 06/07/2024 11:11

I think it's gross and completely reasonable to expect them to follow your house rules.
We had someone staying who smoked in their bedroom. It was also my dd's bedroom, so really made me see red. He hasn't returned. (Was very upset I made such a fuss and definitely created an atmosphere for the remainder of their stay.)

SherbetSweeties · 06/07/2024 11:09

You asked her not to smoke In your house and she did anyway.. absolutely spot on kicking her out.

longdistanceclaraclara · 06/07/2024 11:09

She's not a friend, you are not beholden to her. She sounds like a pain in the arse that you've had to put up with. Time to cut ties.

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