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To ask guest to leave for smoking in the bedroom?

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FgsMary · 06/07/2024 09:43

A friend has been staying. She lives abroad but is over here on holiday for 3 weeks. Day 1, she smoked in the kitchen. I told her no smoking at all in the house. She pulled a face but from then on, smoked in the garden. I then became aware that she was sneakily smoking in the bedroom at night (blowing it out of window). She is a very tricky person anyway. Very aggressive, confrontational, awkward, selfish, bullying at the best of times but I'd bit my lip for a week and it had mainly been OK. I asked her if she'd been smoking in the bedroom. She said no but then later text me to say that she had and she was sorry. I told her she should find somewhere else to stay and she left that day. I feel dreadful though and I should probably have just said again not to smoke inside but not asked her to leave. She's now playing the victim and acting like I'm the bad guy. Was I out of order? I have said she's welcome to come back and I've seen her since but she's said no to coming back and she's sleeping on a relatives floor instead.

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VickyEadieofThigh · 07/07/2024 17:21

Noshowlomo · 06/07/2024 09:46

I’m with you. That’s completely rank and overstepping your boundaries

I cannot bear smoking. Anyone who smoked in my house would get one warning. She got her warning and did it again.

You were right, OP.

LookItsMeAgain · 07/07/2024 17:20

Aside from her smoking in your home, you've stated that her own parents don't want her to stay with them. I can feel some empathy for someone who is not welcomed to stay in the home her parents have.
The talk about it probably being the last time she'll see them during a visit is a smidge morose and if she isn't bothered by it, you shouldn't be either. Not everyone has to behave in the same way towards their parents or relatives.

The only strange thing is, if her parents could cough up and pay for very expensive last minute flights, why didn't they arrange for her to stay somewhere (in a hotel, B & B or even an AirBnB) and pay for that instead? Why did she have to stay with a friend (you) during her stay?

parkrun500club · 07/07/2024 16:49

FgsMary · 06/07/2024 13:37

I feel desperately sorry for her parents. They are the loveliest people. I've known them my whole life. They are so upset about the whole sorry experience. If I hadn't chucked her out though, she'd still be here and wouldn't have bolted out of the country. Yes, it's the consequence of her own actions but she's not here for long, her parents aren't young and this is probably one of the last times they'll see her. She's coming back on Monday for her final week but time is the one thing you can't get back.

That's on her. All she had to do was take her fags outside. How difficult can it be?

Blimey OP you must have a really difficult life if you blame yourself for everything like this.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 07/07/2024 13:30

With respect OP, I don't understand why you are feeling so guilty, responsible and taking so much of the blame on yourself.

Her parents paid for her to fly out to visit her friend for a weekend during a 3 week visit. So it is down to them that she flew off. They were probably relieved to have her out of the house for 3 days during this 3 week stint and considered it money well spent if it allowed both sides a breathing space. Its a long time and she's a difficult person. They've had plenty of time with her already and will see her again next week.

Yet You are wringing your hands saying time lost can never be got back. Its the quality of the time spent, not the quantity that matters. And less is certainly more in this case if she has behaviour problems. An afternoon or two of good time together is probably preferable to both sides than having a 3 week in yer face every day conflict filled egg shell walking fiesta.

Come on. You did your bit. She didn't co-operate and moved to her parents. Its really not a big deal in the scheme of things that she went to friends for the weekend during her 3 weeks. In the circumstances it seems entirely sensible AND ITS NOT DOWN TO YOU or your fault that she did.

So stop beating yourself up. One more week and she will be back home again and you won't have to worry about it.

I think tho that you could do with a bit more support/help/talk about your reaction to this which sounds like it may stem from difficult events in your past. Its exhausting for you to go around carrying guilt and angst on all sorts of things and thinking that its your fault/responsibility when it really really isn't. If anything comes out of this visit, it should be you addressing this and getting some support with dealing with these feelings. x

Nanny0gg · 07/07/2024 11:23

FgsMary · 06/07/2024 10:50

To everyone commenting on why I'm friends with her....She's not a friend friend. I don't see her, she lives abroad. I've never visited her. I don't like her lifestyle or country she lives in. We occasionally talk on the phone and she can be very supportive and lovely. She's not someone I'd hang out with (and vice versa) but she is like family and her parents are very important to me. It was a favour to her and her family that really meant something to everyone. We all thought she might have mellowed with age but she's worse than ever really. It has all caused a lot of upset all round. Yes, it's her behaviour that's the cause of it all (not just the smoking) and she's upset everyone but I feel dreadful that I've made it all worse. She feels adrift in life and not welcomed anywhere and I don't want anyone to feel like that. She's most certainly not a dreadful person. Just a challenging complex one.

YOU haven't made it worse. SHE has

And with everyone pandering and walking on eggshells why would she change?

Do you make yourself the scapegoat in other situations?

FanSaBhaile · 07/07/2024 11:23

seedsandseeds · 07/07/2024 11:11

@graceinspace999 If someone is having a sip of wine whilst sat at a table, does that negatively affect the health of a person sat on another table next to theirs?

Grace very obviously had major issues with alcohol. Personally, I won't be reading anymore of her lectures.

Nanny0gg · 07/07/2024 11:21

FgsMary · 06/07/2024 10:11

She lives abroad, so we only see each other every few years. Everyone has been dreading her coming over because you have to walk on eggshells around her otherwise there's fireworks. I knew it would be tricky having her to stay but I was determined to just button my lip. I managed it aswell for a week but then drew the line at the smoking. She doesn't have an easy life for many different reasons and I care for her.

That doesn't explain why you accept bad behaviour and attitude?

Noshowlomo · 07/07/2024 11:19

None of this is on your. Her behaviour has consequences

Nanny0gg · 07/07/2024 11:19

FgsMary · 06/07/2024 09:52

I do feel incredibly guilty. I've known her my whole life. It's caused all kinds of issues and I feel awful that she's now sleeping on the floor on cushions, even though her actions caused all this.

She doesn't even sound like a friend at all.

Why are you bothered?

seedsandseeds · 07/07/2024 11:11

@graceinspace999 If someone is having a sip of wine whilst sat at a table, does that negatively affect the health of a person sat on another table next to theirs?

graceinspace999 · 07/07/2024 09:44

Maray1967 · 06/07/2024 23:16

Speaking as someone whose mother died of secondary lung cancer having never smoked but having spent hours in smoke filled staff rooms I beg to differ. Smoking is disgusting and antisocial. It harms people simply by happening. Alcohol harms people when it is misused. There is no good use of cigarettes.

I turned away a carpet fitter who sat in his van smoking before starting the job - to fit a carpet in my baby’s nursery. As soon as he stood in my porch he absolutely stank of smoke. No way was I having that in my house.

Alcohol harms people just by existing. Many people have been harmed by alcohol, including all children of drinkers.

We are all brainwashed by the alcohol industry. Very few people stop at one glass on nice wine.

People drink in front of their kids. Now people even drink at kids parties and communions!

If alcohol came up today it would be banned immediately.

I don’t smoke but some one having a quick fag out through a window is not as lethal as alcohol.

We are all deluded and in denial about alcohol because we like it.

By the way I find the smell of wine nauseating. I will tolerate it if visitors want to drink and I will tolerate people smoking at an open door.

I don’t like hypocrisy - enjoy your wine.

Perfect28 · 07/07/2024 08:45

Sounds like you have strong boundaries, well done and good for you.

FgsMary · 07/07/2024 08:43

Yupthatsit · 07/07/2024 08:02

Sounds like even they didn't want her to stay. I wonder why.

They don't.

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FgsMary · 07/07/2024 08:43

Mrsjayy · 07/07/2024 08:04

Is she your sister you sound quite invested and upset for it just to be a family friend.

Nope.

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Mrsjayy · 07/07/2024 08:04

FgsMary · 07/07/2024 07:54

Parents paid.

Is she your sister you sound quite invested and upset for it just to be a family friend.

Aspierational · 07/07/2024 08:04

YANBU! She sounds like a nightmare and people like that will never respond well to boundaries.

Yupthatsit · 07/07/2024 08:02

FgsMary · 07/07/2024 07:54

Parents paid.

Sounds like even they didn't want her to stay. I wonder why.

nutbrownhare15 · 07/07/2024 08:01

I would just block and move on. What she did was so in violation of your boundaries and you were right to kick her out. It sounds like she is a master manipulator of emotions. It's not your problem and you can't fix her. Noone would blame you for saying you've had enough. Imagine what a relief it would be not to have to worry about her reaction any more.

FgsMary · 07/07/2024 07:54

Yupthatsit · 07/07/2024 07:10

If her last minute flights cost a fortune then she can afford hotels/airb&bs/hostels and doesn't need to be a martyr sleeping on a floor.
You did the right thing. She sounds awful.

Parents paid.

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Yupthatsit · 07/07/2024 07:10

If her last minute flights cost a fortune then she can afford hotels/airb&bs/hostels and doesn't need to be a martyr sleeping on a floor.
You did the right thing. She sounds awful.

Tarquina · 07/07/2024 05:51

Halfheadhighlights · 06/07/2024 09:50

Why are you friends with this Very aggressive, confrontational, awkward, selfish, bullying person?

You were right to have her leave

This.

TeaGinandFags · 07/07/2024 04:44

No way is anyone that entitled sleeping on a floor. Especially a relative's.

Dump her. She sounds awful.

NeedToAskPlease · 07/07/2024 04:33

FgsMary · 06/07/2024 09:59

It's a relative. Absolutely not smoking there. Wouldn't dare.

So it's just you and your home that she doesn't have respect for then? She doesn't give a shit about you.

wombat1a · 07/07/2024 03:21

100% reasonable,

PoopingAllTheWay · 07/07/2024 03:13

Hell no!

I would find it so rude and would be fuming

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